Senators strike bipartisan gun deal

[TJHall1]

Your problem is you try to be cool above the fray guy. But you are simply a head up your ass guy if you haven't witnessed the fuckers literally erode rights a little at a time. The red flag laws violate the 2nd and 5th amendment. They haven't come out yet with the gun grab but had DeSantis lost and Florida instead gets the crackhead homo as Gov, you can bet your ass it would have been happening a lot in the past 4 years.

Why didn't the AR ban for 10 years result in everyone having their guns taken eventually?? Why hasn't the last 4 years in florida resulted in everyone losing their guns? You clowns are retarded.

 

[t_money86]

2a is already being infringed upon for decades. Why don't you raise hell about that??

Cool above the fray guy...hahahaha no I'm just not retarded and think a simple law preventing psychos buying guns means all mine are gonna be confiscated. Because I'm not retarded.

No you're quite retarded. You think the scum that already weaponized the DOJ, FBI, IRS and damn near every other agency against conservatives that they should be trusted here too. That makes you a special kind of stupid. No fucking laws they come up with will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But congrats on "not being a conspiracy theorist."

 

[TJHall1]

No you're quite retarded. You think the scum that already weaponized the DOJ, FBI, IRS and damn near every other agency against conservatives that they should be trusted here too. That makes you a special kind of stupid. No fucking laws they come up with will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But congrats on "not being a conspiracy theorist."

State governments weaponized the doj, fbi, irs against conservatives?? Because that's who would make the flagging laws.

Who's retarded again??

And if you think certain laws wouldn't keep guns out of mentally unstable people's hands then you're a fuckin moron driven by emotion and not reality.

 

[hmt5000]

No you're quite retarded. You think the scum that already weaponized the DOJ, FBI, IRS and damn near every other agency against conservatives that they should be trusted here too. That makes you a special kind of stupid. No fucking laws they come up with will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But congrats on "not being a conspiracy theorist."

You'd think after the summer of love that he'd figure out where this is going and wouldn't want to give up any ground. I can only assume he wants to get raped by a large group of men then left to die in bathroom floor.

 

[t_money86]

You'd think after the summer of love that he'd figure out where this is going and wouldn't want to give up any ground. I can only assume he wants to get raped by a large group of men then left to die in bathroom floor.

He's just another useful fucking idiot for the establishment.

 

[American Deplorable]

Your problem is you try to be cool above the fray guy. But you are simply a head up your ass guy if you haven't witnessed the fuckers literally erode rights a little at a time. The red flag laws violate the 2nd and 5th amendment. They haven't come out yet with the gun grab but had DeSantis lost and Florida instead gets the crackhead homo as Gov, you can bet your ass it would have been happening a lot in the past 4 years.

2nd amendment rights have been expanding since the 1930s when they were at their relative low.

At least understand what you’re trying to argue before making yourself and all other 2nd amendment advocates, like myself, look out of touch.

 

[t_money86]

2nd amendment rights have been expanding since the 1930s when they were at their relative low.

At least understand what you’re trying to argue before making yourself and all other 2nd amendment advocates, like myself, look out of touch.

 

[TJHall1]

2nd amendment rights have been expanding since the 1930s when they were at their relative low.

At least understand what you’re trying to argue before making yourself and all other 2nd amendment advocates, like myself, look out of touch.

Don't bring facts into this!!

 

[American Deplorable]

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What does Dr. Fauci have to do any of this?

 

[TJHall1]

What does Dr. Fauci have to do any of this?

He had no logical answer so he had to quick deflect.

 

[TJHall1]

@t_money86

No you're quite retarded. You think the scum that already weaponized the DOJ, FBI, IRS and damn near every other agency against conservatives that they should be trusted here too. That makes you a special kind of stupid. No fucking laws they come up with will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But congrats on "not being a conspiracy theorist."

State governments weaponized the doj, fbi, irs against conservatives?? Because that's who would make the flagging laws.

Who's retarded again??

And if you think certain laws wouldn't keep guns out of mentally unstable people's hands then you're a fuckin moron driven by emotion and not reality.

 

[TJHall1]

You'd think after the summer of love that he'd figure out where this is going and wouldn't want to give up any ground. I can only assume he wants to get raped by a large group of men then left to die in bathroom floor.

What ground is being given up??? No law abiding citizen would be unable to purchase their firearms. Nothing changes there.

Are you retarded?? Show me how someone who doesn't break the law or have psychotic episodes would be unable to purchase firearms. Please.

 

[hmt5000]

2nd amendment rights have been expanding since the 1930s when they were at their relative low.

At least understand what you’re trying to argue before making yourself and all other 2nd amendment advocates, like myself, look out of touch.

Nobody cared about nfa act at the time because nobody could afford machine guns except for mobsters. Pre 1900 citizens could and did own the exact same stuff the military was using... in some instances even better.

 

[American Deplorable]

Nobody cared about nfa act at the time because nobody could afford machine guns except for mobsters. Pre 1900 citizens could and did own the exact same stuff the military was using... in some instances even better.

Technology has always changed regardless of whether you’re discussing firearms or any other technology.

The 2nd amendment wasn’t written so that citizens would have access to every weapon the military has or the Founding Fathers would have written it as such.

Put another way; you don’t have a right to nuclear bombs just because the military does in the same way you don’t have a right to M80s or F22s.

You, and everyday citizens, have a right to own and bear a firearm of some sort. Therefore the 2nd amendment is not being infringed.

 

[TJHall1]

What ground is being given up??? No law abiding citizen would be unable to purchase their firearms. Nothing changes there.

Are you retarded?? Show me how someone who doesn't break the law or have psychotic episodes would be unable to purchase firearms. Please.

@hmt5000

 

[TJHall1]

State governments weaponized the doj, fbi, irs against conservatives?? Because that's who would make the flagging laws.

Who's retarded again??

And if you think certain laws wouldn't keep guns out of mentally unstable people's hands then you're a fuckin moron driven by emotion and not reality.

@t_money86

 

[ChicagoFats]

Technology has always changed regardless of whether you’re discussing firearms or any other technology.

The 2nd amendment wasn’t written so that citizens would have access to every weapon the military has or the Founding Fathers would have written it as such.

Put another way; you don’t have a right to nuclear bombs just because the military does in the same way you don’t have a right to M80s or F22s.

You, and everyday citizens, have a right to own and bear a firearm of some sort. Therefore the 2nd amendment is not being infringed.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It doesn't say firearms. The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

We can debate the part about being a well regulated militia.

 

[American Deplorable]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It doesn't say firearms. The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

We can debate the part about being a well regulated militia.

You’re making a great argument that firearms need not be available at all.

By your interpretation as long as folks have access to knives and bats then their rights are intact. That’s a bit extreme for me but if we are interpreting The Constitution as it’s written instead of as a living document then you at least have an angle to argue.

That’s a brave position to have around here but I bet most posters have never even read The Constitution let alone want it interpreted exactly as it is written.

 

[22*43*51]

You’re making a great argument that firearms need not be available at all.

By your interpretation as long as folks have access to knives and bats then their rights are intact. That’s a bit extreme for me but if we are interpreting The Constitution as it’s written instead of as a living document then you at least have an angle to argue.

That’s a brave position to have around here but I bet most posters have never even read The Constitution let alone want it interpreted exactly as it is written.

The constitution is not a living document.

 

[ChicagoFats]

You’re making a great argument that firearms need not be available at all.

By your interpretation as long as folks have access to knives and bats then their rights are intact. That’s a bit extreme for me but if we are interpreting The Constitution as it’s written instead of as a living document then you at least have an angle to argue.

That’s a brave position to have around here but I bet most posters have never even read The Constitution let alone want it interpreted exactly as it is written.

No, it states any kind of arms. So you can have firearms, knives, baseball bats, whatever you desire. That right shall not be infringed.

Any kind of arms that may be necessary to keep a secure state.

If you feel like you can keep a safe and secure state without firearms go ahead and argue that, but i think you will be fighting an uphill battle. Reminds me of the saying, never bring a knife to a gun fight.

 

[TJHall1]

No, it states any kind of arms. So you can have firearms, knives, baseball bats, whatever you desire. That right shall not be infringed.

Any kind of arms that may be necessary to keep a secure state.

If you feel like you can keep a safe and secure state without firearms go ahead and argue that, but i think you will be fighting an uphill battle. Reminds me of the saying, never bring a knife to a gun fight.

So they're already infringing on your right by denying you things already?

 

[American Deplorable]

No, it states any kind of arms. So you can have firearms, knives, baseball bats, whatever you desire. That right shall not be infringed.

Any kind of arms that may be necessary to keep a secure state.

If you feel like you can keep a safe and secure state without firearms go ahead and argue that, but i think you will be fighting an uphill battle. Reminds me of the saying, never bring a knife to a gun fight.

LOL It definitely doesn’t say any.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

 

[22*43*51]

LOL It definitely doesn’t say any.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It also doesn’t define a limit.

 

[ChicagoFats]

LOL It definitely doesn’t say any.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Shall not be infringed, implies any weapon necessary for the security of a free state.

 

[SmokeHouse423]

Technology has always changed regardless of whether you’re discussing firearms or any other technology.

The 2nd amendment wasn’t written so that citizens would have access to every weapon the military has or the Founding Fathers would have written it as such.

Put another way; you don’t have a right to nuclear bombs just because the military does in the same way you don’t have a right to M80s or F22s.

You, and everyday citizens, have a right to own and bear a firearm of some sort. Therefore the 2nd amendment is not being infringed.

Where does it say you don’t have a right to nuclear bombs or fighter jets? Not saying you SHOULD have those but why not? Who is to say if you had the money you can’t buy a F22?

 

[TJHall1]

Where does it say you don’t have a right to nuclear bombs or fighter jets? Not saying you SHOULD have those but why not? Who is to say if you had the money you can’t buy a F22?

And you don't have to be trained in using either one. Because that's infringing on their rights.

People flying around and crashing their fighter jets into buildings and houses because they don't know how to fly is our God given right.

 

[ChicagoFats]

And you don't have to be trained in using either one. Because that's infringing on their rights.

People flying around and crashing their fighter jets into buildings and houses because they don't know how to fly is our God given right.

I agree with you in that mentally unstable people should not be able to own firearms. Who makes the distinction of mentally unstable though? Perhaps If you receive assistance from the government for mental issues that would disqualify you from gun ownership.

However, this needs to be considered carefully though as we have already seen the government weaponized and abuse of power aimed at one party in particular.

I care for my autistic / retarded brother in law and he has some violent tendencies. No way he should ever own a gun. I don't know the legality of it, but morally it is wrong and I would never allow him near a gun or teach him how to use one either. Not sure what would happen if he walked into a gun store and tried to buy a gun.

 

[22*43*51]

And you don't have to be trained in using either one. Because that's infringing on their rights.

People flying around and crashing their fighter jets into buildings and houses because they don't know how to fly is our God given right.

You can buy fighter jets today.

Why do I not hear about them crashing in to houses?

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[TJHall1]

You can buy fighter jets today.

Why do I not hear about them crashing in to houses?

You can't buy weaponized fighter jets. So you're just buying a jet, not a fighter jet.

And I'm guessing they're not crashing because in order to fly them you have to be trained and licensed. Don't you think????

I don't think you just made the point you were trying to make D'OH

 

[22*43*51]

You can't buy weaponized fighter jets. So you're just buying a jet, not a fighter jet.

And I'm guessing they're not crashing because in order to fly them you have to be trained and licensed. Don't you think????

I don't think you just made the point you were trying to make

There's nothing stopping you from weaponizing them either.

 

[TJHall1]

There's nothing stopping you from weaponizing them either.

Sure, if you just want to keep it parked in your yard. Kind of defeats the purpose of owning a jet.

 

[AmericanViking]

Your problem is you try to be cool above the fray guy. But you are simply a head up your ass guy if you haven't witnessed the fuckers literally erode rights a little at a time. The red flag laws violate the 2nd and 5th amendment. They haven't come out yet with the gun grab but had DeSantis lost and Florida instead gets the crackhead homo as Gov, you can bet your ass it would have been happening a lot in the past 4 years.

Nailed. He loves sitting around and smelling his own shit

 

[American Deplorable]

Where does it say you don’t have a right to nuclear bombs or fighter jets? Not saying you SHOULD have those but why not? Who is to say if you had the money you can’t buy a F22?

Next you’ll be arguing that abortion is a God given right too even though The Constitution doesn’t say anything about it….

 

[American Deplorable]

Shall not be infringed, implies any weapon necessary for the security of a free state.

Shall not be infringed implies the government won’t take away your right to all arms.

Since there are plenty of examples of “free states”, such as Australia or Canada, with MUCH more strict gun laws than the US I’m not sure that would be the argument I’d use to argue for expanding weapons rights.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Shall not be infringed implies the government won’t take away your right to all arms.

Since there are plenty of examples of “free states”, such as Australia or Canada, with MUCH more strict gun laws than the US I’m not sure that would be the argument I’d use to argue for expanding weapons rights.

No Australia and Canada are not free. See the lockdowns during covid. No one has a right to lock you down, for any reason. That is not a free state and why we need the 2nd amendment.

Shall not be infringed! Look up the definition of infringed and you will see why your first sentence doesn't make any sense.

 

[American Deplorable]

It also doesn’t define a limit.

The Founders left that limit open to interpretation by the people, Congress, and the Supreme Court.

 

[t_money86]

No Australia and Canada are not free. See the lockdowns during covid. No one has a right to lock you down, for any reason. That is not a free state and why we need the 2nd amendment.

Shall not be infringed! Look up the definition of infringed and you will see why your first sentence doesn't make any sense.

Arguing with that twat waffle Pfizer1st just fyi. That fuckin loser doesn't actually believe in freedom. Zhe's a shill for big pharma and doesn't mind rights being infringed.

 

[American Deplorable]

No Australia and Canada are not free. See the lockdowns during covid. No one has a right to lock you down, for any reason. That is not a free state and why we need the 2nd amendment.

Shall not be infringed! Look up the definition of infringed and you will see why your first sentence doesn't make any sense.

I don’t think infringe means what you think it does. Infringing on your gun rights would be taking all your guns away.

That first paragraph is complete nonsense and we both know it. I don’t mind honest discussion but I’m not going to humor trolling.

 

[ChicagoFats]

I don’t think infringe means what you think it does. Infringing on your gun rights would be taking all your guns away.

That first paragraph is complete nonsense and we both know it. I don’t mind honest discussion but I’m not going to humor trolling.

No infringe means encroaching on. Taking a little bit away at a time.

infringe: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.

 

[American Deplorable]

No infringe means encroaching on. Taking a little bit away at a time.

infringe: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.

Exactly nobody is having their right to keep or bear arms encroached upon.

As I’ve noted previously gun rights have expanded significantly over the past few decades. There really isn’t much for gun owners to complain about currently.