Jake Bro Stan & ETNVOL - just ignore and do not engage

[weaponoffreedom]

Now you’re just trying to be cute.

Got there as in would have already been completely destroyed lol

“Most visibly, the United States provided the Soviet Union with more than 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 aircraft, 8,000 tractors and construction vehicles, and 13,000 battle tanks.

However, the real significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet war effort was that it covered the "sensitive points" of Soviet production -- gasoline, explosives, aluminum, nonferrous metals, radio communications, and so on, says historian Boris Sokolov.

"In a hypothetical battle one-on-one between the U.S.S.R and Germany, without the help of Lend-Lease and without the diversion of significant forces of the Luftwaffe and the German Navy and the diversion of more than one-quarter of its land forces in the fight against Britain and the United States, Stalin could hardly have beaten Hitler," Sokolov wrote in an essay for RFE/RL's Russian Service.”

"In order to really assess the significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet victory, you only have to imagine how the Soviet Union would have had to fight if there had been no Lend-Lease aid," Sokolov wrote. "Without Lend-Lease, the Red Army would not have had about one-third of its ammunition, half of its aircraft, or half of its tanks. In addition, there would have been constant shortages of transportation and fuel. The railroads would have periodically come to a halt. And Soviet forces would have been much more poorly coordinated with a constant lack of radio equipment. And they would have been perpetually hungry without American canned meat and fats."

In 1963, KGB monitoring recordedSoviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own."

'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?

Ever since the Cold War, many Soviet and Russian politicians and academics have downplayed the role that U.S.-provided weapons and supplies played in the Red Army's ultimately victorious campaign against Hitler's Germany. But there is substantial evidence that the huge influx of materiel made an...

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Great, you can copy and paste.

Ever ask yourself how that could have happened to the extent stated? Geographically? Think about it.

Of course there is the fact that until the German invasion of USSR, the USSR was an ally to Germany.

Look at the time frame.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

The Russian army would have never made it to Stalingrad without that US aid.

Stalin himself said so. This isn’t some sort of debatable point.

This statement is false and geographically in error. "Made it" to Stalingrad? Look at a map. Today the city is Volgograd. Again, a statement by you, someone who has NO concept of what they are talking about.

Look up "scorched earth" tactic.

Also look at Sam Houston and Santa Ana battle, same thing.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Agreed. That is why we have to push back against all the Russian disinformation!

Also, I know of no "Russian disinformation" campaign greater that that of the liberal MSM, in this country. Prove otherwise.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Acknowledging that children are innocent makes someone a pedo? Do you think Jesus was a pedo too then?

You’re right that war creates chaos which allows for stealing kids. It’s a part of the reason Russia invaded Ukraine, and so many other neighboring countries, over the years.

Which were invaded, over so many years? Georgia? A shithole, full of radical muslims, territory of (by far) the worst mass shooting in history. And the reason why Russia would invade this territory is what? To steal little children? are you out of your mind?

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

Great, you can copy and paste.

Ever ask yourself how that could have happened to the extent stated? Geographically? Think about it.

Of course there is the fact that until the German invasion of USSR, the USSR was an ally to Germany.

Look at the time frame.

How what could have happened and to what extent? Do you mean the American aid?

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

This statement is false and geographically in error. "Made it" to Stalingrad? Look at a map. Today the city is Volgograd. Again, a statement by you, someone who has NO concept of what they are talking about.

Look up "scorched earth" tactic.

Also look at Sam Houston and Santa Ana battle, same thing.

The statement doesn’t have anything to do with geography.

The Russian army would have been destroyed long before Stalingrad if not for US aid.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

Which were invaded, over so many years? Georgia? A shithole, full of radical muslims, territory of (by far) the worst mass shooting in history. And the reason why Russia would invade this territory is what? To steal little children? are you out of your mind?

Of course to steal children and to take territory.

It doesn’t matter what you think of Georgia because what Russia did is objectively wrong.

The same goes for their invasions of Moldova and Ukraine.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

How what could have happened and to what extent? Do you mean the American aid?

No geographically, with the world in a stste as it was, how exactly would the USA fully support the war effort of Russians?

In short I am questioning the logistics of Khrushchev's claims, aswell as your own.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

No geographically, with the world in a stste as it was, how exactly would the USA fully support the war effort of Russians?

In short I am questioning the logistics of Khrushchev's claims, aswell as your own.

Are you kidding?

Most of what the allies were shipping to England was then shipped along the northern routes to Russian ports.

“The Lend-Lease act was enacted in March 1941 and authorized the United States to provide weapons, provisions, and raw materials to strategically important countries fighting Germany and Japan -- primarily, the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, and China. In all, the United States shipped $50 billion ($608 billion in 2020 money) worth of materiel under the program, including $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union. In addition, much of the $31 billion worth of aid sent to the United Kingdom was also passed on to the Soviet Union via convoys through the Barents Sea to Murmansk.

Most visibly, the United States provided the Soviet Union with more than 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 aircraft, 8,000 tractors and construction vehicles, and 13,000 battle tanks.”




They often times just flew planes from Alaska as well. It’s all in the link and fairly common sense to figure out.

It’s Stalin’s own words as well. Just admit you learned something new, move on, and take the L.

“Most famously, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.

"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."

 

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