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BamaRidger said:

Kamala Harris solves the transportation crisis! VP says 'This issue of transportation is fundamentally about just making sure that people have the ability to get where they need to go!'​


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Kamala Harris solves the transportation crisis!

Vice President Kamala Harris was ridiculed Tuesday after making a rather obvious quip in a speech about transportation.
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That statement alone encapsulates more than Buttigieg (sp?) probably knows though.
 
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MortgageHorn said:
Hey Jake Cum Stain

Why Do You Support Corrupt a Corrupt Country Helping Traitors in Our Government Circumvent Both Federal Law and The Constitution?

Yesterday a House Committee — Republican-led, but still — released a series of documents showing without a doubt that the FBI has been forwarding thousands of content moderation “requests” to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube on behalf of the SBU, Ukraine’s Security Agency.

The documents not only contain incontrovertible evidence that our own FBI pressures tech companies to censor material, but that the Bureau is outsourcing such work to a foreign government, in this case Ukraine. This passage below for instance reads “The SBU requested for your review and if appropriate deletion/suspension of these accounts.”


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There can’t possibly be controversy at this point as to whether or not this censorship program is going on. Whether it’s the FBI forwarding the SBU asking for the removal of Aaron Maté, or the Global Engagement Center recommending action on the Canadian site GlobalResearch.Ca, or the White House demanding the takedown of figures like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the same types of behavior have now been captured over and over.

In light of this, I have to ask: where are the rest of the “card-carrying” liberals from the seventies, eighties, and nineties — people like me, who always reflexively opposed restrictions on speech?

Is your argument that private companies can do what they want? Then why did you think otherwise in 1985, when Tipper Gore’s Parents Music Resource Center suggested record companies “voluntarily” label as dirty songs like “Darling Nikki,” and call them McCarthyites when they compiled a list of the “Filthy Fifteen” albums? Does that not sound suspiciously like the “Disinformation Dozen”? Why were you on Frank Zappa’s side then, but with blacklisters now?

Do you now think it’s not really censorship if the FBI merely makes its opinion known about content, and doesn’t order takedowns? Did you think the same when the FBI sent a letter to Priority Records complaining about NWA’s “Fuck the Police”? Did you agree then with the ACLU, whose Southern California chairman responded to the FBI’s letter by saying, “It is completely inappropriate for any government agency to try to influence what artists do. It is completely against the American traditions of free speech”?

Is your belief that new forms of speech constitute “harm” and “offense” to such a degree that censorship is warranted? If so, why did you once support Andres Serrano and his work Piss Christ, which Catholics insisted was an intolerable offense, and call it censorship when opponents like Al D’Amato and Jesse Helms tried to pull funding for Serrano from the National Endowment of the Arts? Wasn’t the Hustler magazine spread suggesting Jerry Falwell had sex with his mother in an outhouse offensive? Didn’t you go to The People Versus Larry Flynt anyway?

If you’re okay with the FBI collaborating on censorship with the SBU now, why oppose the original PATRIOT Act, suggesting you didn’t even want the government looking at library records in search of Islamic terrorists? Why did you support the Dixie Chicks when they were blackballed for antiwar views after the Iraq invasion? Did you cheer them when you watched Shut Up and Sing?

Weren’t those national security issues, too? That wasn’t even that long ago. Is Vladimir Putin that much more of a menace than Al-Qaeda to justify the change in heart?

The change in thinking of traditional American liberals is the only part of this censorship picture that still doesn’t quite compute for me. I’d like to hear from anyone who has an explanation, a personal testimonial, anything. Comments are open to everyone here.


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You’re lucky I was getting ready to post or I never would have seen this.

To the point though you clearly don’t understand The Constitution or the limits on your rights.

Writing for a unanimous U.S. Supreme Court, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes declared in Schenck v. United States(1919) that “[w]hen a nation is at war, many things that might be said in times of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.”

We are in a Cold War with Russia and China currently. If the speech in question had happened during the 70s -90s on social media it still wouldn’t have been constitutionally protected then either.

I wish these same restrictions would be used on speech regarding Palestine and other topics as well. People like Omar are completely out of control.

I also never opposed The Patriot Act because as a patriot I have nothing to hide and would prefer to take the fight to the enemy as opposed to giving them cover to attack us under the guise of rights violations that aren’t actual violations.

I forgot to add that foreign nationals have no protections on any of their speech so there is absolutely nothing wrong with deleting accounts and content from anyone that isn’t a U.S. citizen.
 
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Jake Broe Stan said:
I also never opposed The Patriot Act because as a patriot I have nothing to hide and would prefer to take the fight to the enemy as opposed to giving them cover to attack us under the guise of rights violations that aren’t actual violations.
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You're the type of person Ben Franklin was referring to when he said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

If you think your Rights are better given up in order to keep foreigners from attacking you, the answer is to keep the foreigners out of the country to begin with. Therefore there would be no need to willfully lose Rights.
 
Joe King said:
You're the type of person Ben Franklin was referring to when he said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

If you think your Rights are better given up in order to keep foreigners from attacking you, the answer is to keep the foreigners out of the country to begin with. Therefore there would be no need to willfully lose Rights.
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No rights were given up with The Patriot Act. The bill simply clarified what rights did and didn’t actually exist under the first amendment along with various other things.

You’re also missing the context of what Franklin was speaking about when he said that. He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it which is clearly ridiculous.

That quote by Franklin makes a direct appeal for the legislature of government to enact provisions providing for public security. The essential liberty he was talking about in the quote was that of the people to defend themselves as a community.
 
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MortgageHorn said:
Hey Jake Cum Stain

Why Do You Support Corrupt a Corrupt Country Helping Traitors in Our Government Circumvent Both Federal Law and The Constitution?

Yesterday a House Committee — Republican-led, but still — released a series of documents showing without a doubt that the FBI has been forwarding thousands of content moderation “requests” to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube on behalf of the SBU, Ukraine’s Security Agency.

The documents not only contain incontrovertible evidence that our own FBI pressures tech companies to censor material, but that the Bureau is outsourcing such work to a foreign government, in this case Ukraine. This passage below for instance reads “The SBU requested for your review and if appropriate deletion/suspension of these accounts.”


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There can’t possibly be controversy at this point as to whether or not this censorship program is going on. Whether it’s the FBI forwarding the SBU asking for the removal of Aaron Maté, or the Global Engagement Center recommending action on the Canadian site GlobalResearch.Ca, or the White House demanding the takedown of figures like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the same types of behavior have now been captured over and over.

In light of this, I have to ask: where are the rest of the “card-carrying” liberals from the seventies, eighties, and nineties — people like me, who always reflexively opposed restrictions on speech?

Is your argument that private companies can do what they want? Then why did you think otherwise in 1985, when Tipper Gore’s Parents Music Resource Center suggested record companies “voluntarily” label as dirty songs like “Darling Nikki,” and call them McCarthyites when they compiled a list of the “Filthy Fifteen” albums? Does that not sound suspiciously like the “Disinformation Dozen”? Why were you on Frank Zappa’s side then, but with blacklisters now?

Do you now think it’s not really censorship if the FBI merely makes its opinion known about content, and doesn’t order takedowns? Did you think the same when the FBI sent a letter to Priority Records complaining about NWA’s “Fuck the Police”? Did you agree then with the ACLU, whose Southern California chairman responded to the FBI’s letter by saying, “It is completely inappropriate for any government agency to try to influence what artists do. It is completely against the American traditions of free speech”?

Is your belief that new forms of speech constitute “harm” and “offense” to such a degree that censorship is warranted? If so, why did you once support Andres Serrano and his work Piss Christ, which Catholics insisted was an intolerable offense, and call it censorship when opponents like Al D’Amato and Jesse Helms tried to pull funding for Serrano from the National Endowment of the Arts? Wasn’t the Hustler magazine spread suggesting Jerry Falwell had sex with his mother in an outhouse offensive? Didn’t you go to The People Versus Larry Flynt anyway?

If you’re okay with the FBI collaborating on censorship with the SBU now, why oppose the original PATRIOT Act, suggesting you didn’t even want the government looking at library records in search of Islamic terrorists? Why did you support the Dixie Chicks when they were blackballed for antiwar views after the Iraq invasion? Did you cheer them when you watched Shut Up and Sing?

Weren’t those national security issues, too? That wasn’t even that long ago. Is Vladimir Putin that much more of a menace than Al-Qaeda to justify the change in heart?

The change in thinking of traditional American liberals is the only part of this censorship picture that still doesn’t quite compute for me. I’d like to hear from anyone who has an explanation, a personal testimonial, anything. Comments are open to everyone here.


As a Traitor You Must Be Hung


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“uhhh derrr fire in uhhhh derrrr theater derrrr”

Funny how leftards love that line. It was a defense to err on the side of censorship of speech in US v Schenck.

Curiously, it was used against a democratic socialist to jail him for distributing pamphlets opposing WWI using the espionage act. Sound familiar? My how tables have turned.

It was overturned in Brandenberg v Ohio and is considered one of the worst rulings against free speech in court history. But these leftards love quoting it like it makes some kind of point.

You think his brainwashed/indoctrinated ass knows any of this?

@Jayhox correct me where I’m wrong. I definitely remember that case from pre-law constitutional law courses. Wikard v Filburn being another.
 
Joe King said:
Well that's you'd be wrong. At the least, it's a direct violation of the 4th Amendment.
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No, not at all. I’d love to know why you would even suggest this lol

Let’s face reality, if it were even the least be debatable whether or not The Patriot Act were unconstitutional the current Supreme Court would have already trashed it had it not already expired.
 
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Jake Broe Stan said:
No, not at all. I’d love to know why you would even suggest this lol

Let’s face reality, if it were even the least be debatable whether or not The Patriot Act were unconstitutional the current Supreme a court would have already trashed it.
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There has to be a case brought for them to be able to hear it.
....and that you think the Founders intended the 4th to justify "sneak and peek warrants" issued by a secret court, tells me everything about how you view the Constitution. Ie: as a hinderance.
 
Joe King said:
There has to be a case brought for them to be able to hear it.
....and that you think the Founders intended the 4th to justify "sneak and peek warrants" issued by a secret court, tells me everything about how you view the Constitution. Ie: as a hinderance.
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They don’t need to bring a case against it. It’s already expired and has been since 2020.

A sneak and peak warrant are completely in line with The Constitution as laid out in the fourth amendment. I’m not sure how you could even argue that the government is in the wrong given that they got a warrant for the searches.

And no The Constitution is beautiful but it doesn’t say anything about whether courts / warrants should be secret. It’s common sense to know that many warrants and searches should be done in secrecy so as not to alert the suspect of the search or the accomplices.
 
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MortgageHorn said:
Who the Fuck Hijacked Your Account?
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It’s hilarious that posters around this place, assuming they are actually real people, view everything from a conservative / progressive lens.

I don’t often talk politics but I’d probably vote for Trump if Ukraine weren’t a thing because I like his position on the border WAY more than Biden’s. I’d love to see the military deployed all along both borders. China is waging war against us and using drugs to kill the people of this country.

I just can’t vote for anyone who doesn’t support Ukraine right now. It would be a disaster for American national security to not be doing what we are doing now, at the very least. I’m a single issue voter on that topic until it’s no longer an issue by Ukraine being ascended into NATO.
 
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HiddenLakes said:
I answered you. I love America. Just because you are retarded like @ETNVol in order to spin things, doesn’t make it so.

Figures you were a weekend warrior. Probably national guard. Now go fuck yourself and allow the adults in the room to talk.
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Show me where I've spun something, Corky.

Posting Donald Maga's history and words isn't spin. What you and your fellow cultists attempt to do, that's spin. Like when you say Trump isn't responsible for the vax and he says he's entirely responsible.

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orng_blud said:
This thread would be much more productive and enjoyable if you guys would just quit engaging this troll...
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It really is a simple concept. I'm 5 pages in of responses to a fvcking troll. This is not a serious person(s) that can be reasonably dealt with. JUST BLOCK THEM so we all don't have to read the responses to faggot trolls
 
ETNVol said:
Show me where I've spun something, Corky.

Posting Donald Maga's history and words isn't spin. What you and your fellow cultists attempt to do, that's spin. Like when you say Trump isn't responsible for the vax and he says he's entirely responsible.

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This dude wont even reply to me anymore. See he and I are both from East TN and I know how much full of crap he is. He probably works at Eastman or has some medial job and he just continues to pretend to be a Christian. Sadly he is the farthest from it
 

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