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Who Are The Real Chosen People of GOD/YAH?

Who Are The Real Chosen People of GOD/YAH?

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I'd like to see the census of this board before providing the answer.

The bible and this earth is created for God's Chosen AKA the Israelites or Hebrews and all the rewards and promises are to them including the 1,000 year Kingdom after this current tribulation ends.

Who are the Edomites that have been Christian murders by the billions for thousands of years? God Hated Easau before birth and promised to destroy his seed from the face of the earth during the second coming.

Who are all the races that come from Ham that married a Nephilim?
 

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other, all are gods people, if they choose to be.

That is NOT biblical.

"9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" I Peter 2: 9

The word generation there means offspring. It's pretty easy to research it in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible and prove it to yourself. It never applies to the mixed multitude.
 
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That is NOT biblical.

"9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" I Peter 2: 9

The word generation there means offspring. It's pretty easy to research it in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible and prove it to yourself. It never applies to the mixed multitude.
irrelevant
 

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None of the above. The answer is the Israelites it’s not Jews alone. It includes the lost 10 that will return to Israel. I don’t believe Judah is a mix of them all like many say. I think the lost are still to be revealed.
 

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The elect are chosen.

The entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation is about the elect who, as you say, are chosen of God for a special purpose. For non-Christian cultures / religions (or whatever terminology makes you comfortable), the Bible has little meaning insofar as the covenant relationship between God and his elect Israel.

Most people cannot understand the OT terminology about an everlasting covenant that is later confirmed in the NT.. There is nothing in the Bible to suggest that those non-Israelites who are engaged in other religions go to Hell because they never knew Jesus as their intercessor.

If you are an Israelite, God knows you and you will do the work assigned to his servant people. Those who bring divisiveness, hatred, warfare, and genocide (and especially against biblical Israel) are known by their fruits (be it WMDs, assaults on religion, genocide, no win wars, communism, socialism, etc., etc.).
 

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None of the above. The answer is the Israelites it’s not Jews alone. It includes the lost 10 that will return to Israel. I don’t believe Judah is a mix of them all like many say. I think the lost are still to be revealed.

They HAVE been revealed.

God's elect are collectively known as Israel. When the twelve tribes split into two different factions, it was men (not God) that created the distinctions known as Judah and Israel. The two political entities known as Israel and Judah went into captivity in different places and at different times. They came out of captivity at different times and went to different places.

Most of Judah went back to the old Jerusalem. But, they were accompanied by Canaanite / Edomite / Kenite poseurs and Jesus labeled them and exposed them throughout the NT. THAT is exactly the point of Romans 9: 6 and 7 when it says that they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.

Jesus rebuked those poseurs and he didn't use a genealogy table to expose them. They will do evil because that is their destiny according to the book of Genesis. Consider Romans chapter 11 which begins:

"I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew..." Romans 11: 1 & 2 in part

Romans 9: 4 & 5 makes it abundantly clear:

"4 who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

Biblical Israel (the majority of the twelve tribes) did not return to the old Jerusalem. It was left desolate and New Jerusalem was yet to be renamed. See Matthew 23: 37-39 Biblical Israel is in a covenant relationship and that issue was settled a long time ago. Read this link:

 
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It is absolutely hilarious. In one breathe, its is professed by some that Jesus is they only way to salvation, and in the very next breath, "well no there is another way: be one of the chosen, which is NOT someone who accepts Jesus and his sacrifice".

Absolutely hilarious.

To the silent reader, be careful of what you take from this thread. The only way to the father is through the son, the only way, meaning there is no other path: not who you are or where you are from, or the color of your skin, not even your past.

We can drown in scripture, and false interpretations, until we are blue in the face, but the acceptance of Jesus is the only way, and NO scripture in the bible can refute that.
 

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It is absolutely hilarious. In one breathe, its is professed by some that Jesus is they only way to salvation, and in the very next breath, "well no there is another way: be one of the chosen, which is NOT someone who accepts Jesus and his sacrifice".

Absolutely hilarious.

To the silent reader, be careful of what you take from this thread. The only way to the father is through the son, the only way, meaning there is no other path: not who you are or where you are from, or the color of your skin, not even your past.

We can drown in scripture, and false interpretations, until we are blue in the face, but the acceptance of Jesus is the only way, and NO scripture in the bible can refute that.
You are either the second most dishonest man I've known OR the most dishonest.

The converse of what you say is that there is no proof that a person goes to Hell for not becoming a Christian. God deals with non-Israelites in his own way. Muslims are not going to occupy the same place in the hereafter as are Christians. But, if they keep the laws of God; if they bless biblical Israel, then they (as a nation) will be blessed. And when Muslims attack biblical Israel; when they commit abominations, they (as a nation) suffer the curses. You are making mountains out of molehills and this is what you want to say:

Every nation and every person; every religion and every belief or non belief; every person... men, women, and even infants are going to Hell if they don't acknowledge Jesus as their personal savior. Everybody from Jesus to every apostle in the Bible lied when they acknowledged who Israel and what pertains to them. Isn't that the sum total of your position?
 

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Being an Israelite doesn't get one into Heaven. Good works doesn't get one into Heaven. Simply acknowledging Jesus is insufficient. One's life must begin with acknowledging that Jesus is YOUR personal savior. But that is the start - not the whole deal. But, without that start, there is nothing.

The word Israel means to rule with God. I've posted the context of that in post #13 at the bottom of the page. Misrepresenting the point by avoiding the link only means that some here are afraid to test the spirits as per I John 4: 1.

If you know to do good and you don't do it, that is sin. Sin is the transgression of the law. The law especially applies to biblical Israel who not only is expected to abide by the laws, but to show the world, by example, what is expected of them. I don't know the final destiny of other races, religions, etc. NOR will I judge them as nations or as individuals.

I strive to live in a constitutional Republic predicated upon Christian principles. Contrary to the most dishonest people on earth, that does not mean a theocracy. That means our laws are predicated upon a certain value system and, like it or not, ALL countries will be based on someone's values. For example, the Ishmaelites (aka the Muslims) have an equivalent of the Ten Commandments. It is not the same, but advocates pretty much the same standards. And like it or not, God himself destined the Ishmaelites to have twelve princes and have a separate destiny from biblical Israel. And the Muslim countries are built on their values.

In our common law system (which can be traced back to the Bible), ignorance of the law is no excuse. Americans hold to that standard and it seems to me that some want to apply a different standard in biblical interpretation, knowing that Jesus himself said that once God's elect accepted the religion of the Pharisees, those Israelites become twofold more the children of Hell than Satan himself. The real standard there is to study Matthew 7: 15 - 20 Who is behind doing the work that God commissioned Israel to do? Who is behind the genocide, divisiveness, wars and apostasy?
 
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Being an Israelite doesn't get one into Heaven. Good works doesn't get one into Heaven. Simply acknowledging Jesus is insufficient. One's life must begin with acknowledging that Jesus is YOUR personal savior. But that is the start - not the whole deal. But, without that start, there is nothing.

The word Israel means to rule with God. I've posted the context of that in post #13 at the bottom of the page. Misrepresenting the point by avoiding the link only means that some here are afraid to test the spirits as per I John 4: 1.

If you know to do good and you don't do it, that is sin. Sin is the transgression of the law. The law especially applies to biblical Israel who not only is expected to abide by the laws, but to show the world, by example, what is expected of them. I don't know the final destiny of other races, religions, etc. NOR will I judge them as nations or as individuals.

I strive to live in a constitutional Republic predicated upon Christian principles. Contrary to the most dishonest people on earth, that does not mean a theocracy. That means our laws are predicated upon a certain value system and, like it or not, ALL countries will be based on someone's values. For example, the Ishmaelites (aka the Muslims) have an equivalent of the Ten Commandments. It is not the same, but advocates pretty much the same standards. And like it or not, God himself destined the Ishmaelites to have twelve princes and have a separate destiny from biblical Israel. And the Muslim countries are built on their values.

In our common law system (which can be traced back to the Bible), ignorance of the law is no excuse. Americans hold to that standard and it seems to me that some want to apply a different standard in biblical interpretation, knowing that Jesus himself said that once God's elect accepted the religion of the Pharisees, those Israelites become twofold more the children of Hell than Satan himself. The real standard there is to study Matthew 7: 15 - 20 Who is behind doing the work that God commissioned Israel to do? Who is behind the genocide, divisiveness, wars and apostasy?
again, hilarious

people, read this carefully.

"Jesus is NOT enough" that is what the above says.

One word: Dismas
 

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They HAVE been revealed.

God's elect are collectively known as Israel. When the twelve tribes split into two different factions, it was men (not God) that created the distinctions known as Judah and Israel. The two political entities known as Israel and Judah went into captivity in different places and at different times. They came out of captivity at different times and went to different places.

Most of Judah went back to the old Jerusalem. But, they were accompanied by Canaanite / Edomite / Kenite poseurs and Jesus labeled them and exposed them throughout the NT. THAT is exactly the point of Romans 9: 6 and 7 when it says that they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.

Jesus rebuked those poseurs and he didn't use a genealogy table to expose them. They will do evil because that is their destiny according to the book of Genesis. Consider Romans chapter 11 which begins:

"I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew..." Romans 11: 1 & 2 in part

Romans 9: 4 & 5 makes it abundantly clear:

"4 who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

Biblical Israel (the majority of the twelve tribes) did not return to the old Jerusalem. It was left desolate and New Jerusalem was yet to be renamed. See Matthew 23: 37-39 Biblical Israel is in a covenant relationship and that issue was settled a long time ago. Read this link:


Agree to disagree.
 

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That is not what I said, not even close.

Nor did I post anything close to what you claimed. It might be to your benefit to ask questions if you don't understand, rather than to misrepresent the position of others. Since you didn't ask, I'll presume you did that on purpose.

That made my characterization just as accurate as yours. Want to start over or do you just like pissing matches instead of productive exchanges?
 
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Other.

We all win.
Sure, if Paul wasn't a false apostle. Unfortunately, Paul is the only one in the bible that preached that God just switched all of his promises to the Israelites to everybody even though that would contradict Yah's entire reasoning for maintaining a pure bloodline.
 
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they were only chosen for the messiah Jesus to come from their bloodline..jesus was born the jews choseness was fulfilled and they are no longer chosen,, now because of Jesus ALL have a chance to be chosen.

The word Jew was is a created qword that changed from the original word Idumaean in the 1611 KJV.

Quick history lesson:
1.) Esau lost his birth right to Jacob and Jacob birthed the 12 tribes of Israel. Esau not only lost his birth right but also race mixed and created bastards and no bastard shall enter the congregation of YAH according to the book of numbers even to the 10th generation. So Esau had no legitimate offspring. Since he married into Canaanites the tribe that YAH ordered the Israelites to destroy including the women and children and even the animals due to them being not only the descendants of the seed of the fallen angels but being of pure evil. These Edomites/Canaanites became Israelite/Adamic race murders from the beginning from Abel up until today. These Edomites were also known as the Idumean and Amalekites.

Esau's Edomites eventually are forced to convert or die by the hands of King Josaphat in Judah in 150 BC. They adopt the religion of Judaism and this is where the creation of the scribes, Sadducees, and Pharisees starts. They then legitimate (by blood) Judean King killed and took the throne as King Herod as the first Edomite King in Jerusalem and from hence forth these Edomites stole the Identity of the Israelites/Judeans. King Herod ordered the slaughter of thousands of Israelite babies after hearing about the Massiah being born. These Edomites/Canaanites eventually had Jesus crucified.

These Edomites/Canaanites eventually became the Khazars, then took on the name of Ashkenazi Jews. As prophesied the Edomites took over the land of Palestine and the book of Obediah foretold that their entire seed from the face of the earth and the true Israelites then inherit what was originally promised to them in the promise land for 1,000 years under the rule Yashua. The only non Israelites that survive the Tribulation are those that do not take the mark of the beast.

Jesus pointed out these liars as vipers, as the children of the devil and synagogue of Satan.

The parable of separating the wheat from the tears and sheep from the goats is to separate the pure blood Israelites from the rest. This is why Christ said he came only for the lost sheep. This is why Noah were saved during the flood as it wasn't because of them being good it was because Noah was pure in his generations. The rest of the flesh was corrupted with the fallen angels and that created a race of Nephilim.

Some suspect that HAM's seed was impure and or his wife's blood was impure which is why 99.9999999% of the Rephaim or cousins of the Nephilim giants came from.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet.

Jesus was an Israelite and not a Jew aka Edomite/Canaanite. The bloodline of the Israelites was given many prophecies and promises to them and there is no other race of people that are to receive these gifts or fulfill these prophecies. The 1,000 year Kingdom is for Israelites only.

The only one in the bible that contradicts the scriptures is Paulus/Saulus and Edomite/royal Herodian/Pharisees/Roman Citizen/false Apostle/False prophet. He is the false prophet Jesus warned about and the Romans put his blaspheme and false gospel into the bible to unfortunately damn billions of souls to hell.

2 Samuel 7:16 is where YAH tells King David his bloodline/Kingdom shall have no end. The Israelites rule and bloodline is eternal. Meanwhile the Edomites are to be obliterated from the face of the earth. This is the promise of YAH.
 
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Being an Israelite doesn't get one into Heaven. Good works doesn't get one into Heaven. Simply acknowledging Jesus is insufficient. One's life must begin with acknowledging that Jesus is YOUR personal savior. But that is the start - not the whole deal. But, without that start, there is nothing.

The word Israel means to rule with God. I've posted the context of that in post #13 at the bottom of the page. Misrepresenting the point by avoiding the link only means that some here are afraid to test the spirits as per I John 4: 1.

If you know to do good and you don't do it, that is sin. Sin is the transgression of the law. The law especially applies to biblical Israel who not only is expected to abide by the laws, but to show the world, by example, what is expected of them. I don't know the final destiny of other races, religions, etc. NOR will I judge them as nations or as individuals.

I strive to live in a constitutional Republic predicated upon Christian principles. Contrary to the most dishonest people on earth, that does not mean a theocracy. That means our laws are predicated upon a certain value system and, like it or not, ALL countries will be based on someone's values. For example, the Ishmaelites (aka the Muslims) have an equivalent of the Ten Commandments. It is not the same, but advocates pretty much the same standards. And like it or not, God himself destined the Ishmaelites to have twelve princes and have a separate destiny from biblical Israel. And the Muslim countries are built on their values.

In our common law system (which can be traced back to the Bible), ignorance of the law is no excuse. Americans hold to that standard and it seems to me that some want to apply a different standard in biblical interpretation, knowing that Jesus himself said that once God's elect accepted the religion of the Pharisees, those Israelites become twofold more the children of Hell than Satan himself. The real standard there is to study Matthew 7: 15 - 20 Who is behind doing the work that God commissioned Israel to do? Who is behind the genocide, divisiveness, wars and apostasy?

Salvation: Random order
1.) Do not take the mark
2.) Belief in YAH and his son fulfillment of the scriptures.
3.) No fear/doubt that YAH will save you
4.) Born again
5.) Love YAH more than anything else
6.) Keep the commandments and repent and do not walk in your sins. Be sincere when asking for forgiveness.


Works give you rewards in heaven and things you do on earth are received in a similar fashion but magnified 10x and the same goes for hell as the sins you commit in this life your punishment is similar to the sins you commit in this life but only 10x worse. So those who say YAH with he will give you the cold shoulder as he knew you not and cares not for your works for salvation. So perhaps building a relationship with YAH by having daily prayer combined with doing.

Narrow is the path to heaven. I wouldn't be shocked if less than 0.01% of people that ever walked the earth made it into heaven.

I believe that YAH used the flood to wipe out the fallen angel male seed but the female DNA of the Nephilim is on HAM's side
 
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This person is correct. 10000000%
False, YAH didn't pull a reverse uno magically so now everyone can enter into the promises given to the bloodline of Jacob. The other races cannot change their DNA and race mixing doesn't enable their children to receive all the gifts and promises from YAH to the Israelites. Believing in this would be calling YAH a liar.

Having faith and receiving salvation is completely different from being part of Israelites. There's a reason YAH demanded us to destroy specific seeds from the earth. Since we failed our mission YAH has to do it himself to Edom aka fake Israelites in Israel today.
 

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False, YAH didn't pull a reverse uno magically so now everyone can enter into the promises given to the bloodline of Jacob. The other races cannot change their DNA and race mixing doesn't enable their children to receive all the gifts and promises from YAH to the Israelites. Believing in this would be calling YAH a liar.

Having faith and receiving salvation is completely different from being part of Israelites. There's a reason YAH demanded us to destroy specific seeds from the earth. Since we failed our mission YAH has to do it himself to Edom aka fake Israelites in Israel today.

You are partially right. God will still use his elect in an upcoming major conflict of the ages.
 

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according to revelations we have all been chosen for something or another. but the specific thing the jews was CHOSEN for was to produce the messiah from their bloodline, that particular was FULLFILLED. If one is saved by belief and acceptance of jesus , whether jew or gentile you are chosen to go and be with god period. so in a sense we are all CHOSEN at this point. YOU are ChOSEN and have been givin a CHOICE.

CHOOSE to be CHOSEN!!
 
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they were only chosen for the mesiah jesus to come from thier bloodline..jesus was born the jews choseness was fulfilled and they are no longer chosen,, now because of jesus ALL have a chance to be chosen.
 

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according to revelations we have all been chosen for something or another. but the specific thing the jews was CHOSEN for was to produce the messiah from their bloodline, that particular was FULLFILLED. If one is saved by belief and acceptance of jesus , whether jew or gentile you are chosen to go and be with god period. so in a sense we are all CHOSEN at this point. YOU are ChOSEN and have been givin a CHOICE.

CHOOSE to be CHOSEN!!

Unfortunately for you, the Bible says no such thing. How many times must I quote Romans chapter 9 before you understand what biblical Israel was chosen for?

Secondly the Bible clearly distinguishes between the offspring of Judah (which is NOT the modern day Jew) and the Canaanite / Edomite / Kenite line.
 

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the whole reason for the flood was to preserve the bloodline leading to jesus, my beleifs are completely biblical.

You not only can't post anything in favor of your position from the Bible; you can't even acknowledge the multiple chapters I'm quoting.

The Bible never says anything about the flood being used to preserve the bloodline leading to Jesus. You're reading something into that which doesn't exist. The flood occurred because there was evil in the world. God demonstrated his capabilities and we are left with a record of how powerful God can be in the face of evil (though the Bible doesn't say that is the reason for the flood).

According to the 8th chapter of John, the scribes and Pharisees, Jesus traced their lineage back to Cain. If anybody buys into your theory, there would never have had to be flood in the first place since Jesus and Satan would be one and the same according to John.

Prior to the 1700s the word "Jew" (jew) didn't exist. So, when you read the Bible, you must distinguish between Jew by religion, Jew by geography (Judean) or a descendant of Judah (and not all descendants of Judah are heirs to the promise).
 

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