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RollyInRaleigh

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Some electric cars are getting 300 +. If you are a commuter and charge your car every night this is more than enough range.

If you get 250k miles out of a tsla and then have to pay 25k for another battery pack that will last an additional 250k miles (probably more by then) .... thats a pretty good deal.

I think its far from a foolish assumption that materials science (batteries) wont continue to make leaps forward. New technologies have always been emerging, there is no reason to think they will stop, especially when the reward will be tremendous. I would bet a large sum that we are not close to product maturity on batteries.

I agree that Dems may be pushing too aggressively on the timeline, but the switch to EV's will happen and will need to happen. Just as bad as pushing too fast, is resisting any change at all.
Why does it need to happen?
 

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Some electric cars are getting 300 +. If you are a commuter and charge your car every night this is more than enough range.

If you get 250k miles out of a tsla and then have to pay 25k for another battery pack that will last an additional 250k miles (probably more by then) .... thats a pretty good deal.

I think its far from a foolish assumption that materials science (batteries) wont continue to make leaps forward. New technologies have always been emerging, there is no reason to think they will stop, especially when the reward will be tremendous. I would bet a large sum that we are not close to product maturity on batteries.

I agree that Dems may be pushing too aggressively on the timeline, but the switch to EV's will happen and will need to happen. Just as bad as pushing too fast, is resisting any change at all.
Allowing technology to emerge organically is not resistance. What I do resist is pushing all our chips in on one particular tech while it's in its infancy. Artificially hamstringing our access to and use of cheap and abundant energy sources will hinder, not enhance, future innovation.
 

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Why does it need to happen?
Its not a matter of if we run out of oil, but when. It may be a couple hundred years, but why not start the transition now? What harm is there in letting people buy a battery powered car now if they want to? Is there a downside?

Nuclear energy can be used to sustain energy needs indefinitely. You can't say the same for oil.
 

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Allowing technology to emerge organically is not resistance. What I do resist is pushing all our chips in on one particular tech while it's in its infancy. Artificially hamstringing our access to and use of cheap and abundant energy sources will hinder, not enhance, future innovation.
I agree with you on all those statements.

I like electric cars even though I hate the dems are trying to shove them down everyone's throats.
 

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When is the IRS going to audit all the inside traders in Congress?

Things Liz Cheney cares about …

1) money.
2) power.

Things Liz Cheney doesn’t care about.

1) Wyoming
 

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Its not a matter of if we run out of oil, but when. It may be a couple hundred years, but why not start the transition now? What harm is there in letting people buy a battery powered car now if they want to? Is there a downside?

Nuclear energy can be used to sustain energy needs indefinitely. You can't say the same for oil.
The push to EVs has nothing to do with climate change, oil running out, better tech, or any other BS reason given. So what's this all about? Money, power, and control of the masses. My personal belief is there is tech out there that could really change the world but we will never get to see it. Free or cheap energy is not in the best interest of the elites or their minions. As always, JMHO. SKOL!
 
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Its not a matter of if we run out of oil, but when. It may be a couple hundred years, but why not start the transition now? What harm is there in letting people buy a battery powered car now if they want to? Is there a downside?

Nuclear energy can be used to sustain energy needs indefinitely. You can't say the same for oil.
1000s of years. Where does this talk of running out of oil come from?
 

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1000s of years. Where does this talk of running out of oil come from?
Rockefeller paid a bunch of shill scientists to categorize oil as a "fossil" fuel. Giving the wrong perception that it is rare/finite and that once all the fossils turn to oil it will be all gone. And the rest is history. We are still fighting that lie today. SKOL!
 
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I agree with you on all those statements.

I like electric cars even though I hate the dems are trying to shove them down everyone's throats.
I think the biggest issue with the electric vehicle stuff is the fact that they're being pushed so hard as being 'green', yet refuse to answer the questions about how much goes into making the batteries (and the impact on the world due to mining rare earth materials, etc) and where the energy comes from to charge them.

If we harnessed 100% of our energy by renewable energy, then that would be a different story. Although, you still need to discuss what happens to the 'green' energy items when their life expectancy is over.

Where do the carbon fiber wind turbine blades go? How long do they take to break down?
What happens to the solar panels that contain some toxic materials?
What happens to the massive Electric vehicle batteries? Do they leach into the ground? If so, what's the impact?
What's the impact on the environment of those questions? Is it worse than using gasoline?
 

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I think the biggest issue with the electric vehicle stuff is the fact that they're being pushed so hard as being 'green', yet refuse to answer the questions about how much goes into making the batteries (and the impact on the world due to mining rare earth materials, etc) and where the energy comes from to charge them.

If we harnessed 100% of our energy by renewable energy, then that would be a different story. Although, you still need to discuss what happens to the 'green' energy items when their life expectancy is over.

Where do the carbon fiber windmill blades go?
What happens to the solar panels that contain some toxic materials?
What happens to the massive Electric vehicle batteries?
What's the impact on the environment of those questions? Is it worse than using gasoline?
I think i saw this here but it reminds me of the paper straw wrapped in plastic. These morons are destroying the very thing they supposedly want to protect, In reality, they want to destroy the earth and it's human inhabitants. SKOL!
 

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Those paper straws are garbage. Those things fall apart before you're done with your drink.
Imagine an 8-ball and your buddy has that runny coke nose. Yeah, fuck all that. Of course, my Miami days are long gone and I happily don't have to worry about hoarding plastic straws.
Anecdotal: I used to love the big slurpy straws from 7-11 with the spoon appendage on the end. I saw that for the first time at an Everglades DU banquet when I partied with my uncle and a couple famous Miami Dolphins. That's a wild story for another time. haha SKOL!
 

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Music added for effect but this is what Amazon did to promote the cast of the new LOTR "inspired" show.

I don't even want to say who the last elf dude was because he should be an absolute badass....

Get ready to emasculate all male characters despite race. It's a woman middle earth.

7, 8, 1, 4, 12, 3, 9, 2, 10, 5, 6,11.
 

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I think the biggest issue with the electric vehicle stuff is the fact that they're being pushed so hard as being 'green', yet refuse to answer the questions about how much goes into making the batteries (and the impact on the world due to mining rare earth materials, etc) and where the energy comes from to charge them.

If we harnessed 100% of our energy by renewable energy, then that would be a different story. Although, you still need to discuss what happens to the 'green' energy items when their life expectancy is over.

Where do the carbon fiber wind turbine blades go? How long do they take to break down?
What happens to the solar panels that contain some toxic materials?
What happens to the massive Electric vehicle batteries? Do they leach into the ground? If so, what's the impact?
What's the impact on the environment of those questions? Is it worse than using gasoline?
Environmentally friendly lithium mine

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Its not a matter of if we run out of oil, but when. It may be a couple hundred years, but why not start the transition now? What harm is there in letting people buy a battery powered car now if they want to? Is there a downside?

Nuclear energy can be used to sustain energy needs indefinitely. You can't say the same for oil.
We’re not running out of oil. There are oceans of oil underground. Oil would be obsolete long before we run out of it. And we have more than anyone.

The harm of EV? You’re playing right into the hands of the overlords.
 

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