TFSF Golf Thread

[Jayhacker]

Pretty sure he was already in. What you saw is that he resigned from the pga this year, so he can't play anymore this year in pga but this will likely help him avoid pga suspensions and other bullshit. These guys are gonna make bank. Good for them, fuck the pga.

Just hope the Saudis don't behead him for slow play that he's famous for.

 

[Emma tenywa]

He has resigned

 

[Emma tenywa]

 

[Uncle Muscles]

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Holy fuck Im just catching up to this.

 

[OTD Sports]

 

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[denn]

Guaranteed $ is going to draw a lot of players. I do not blame DJ for one second. Especially with that contract. Good for him and a loss for the PGA tour

 

[quickfeet]

Guaranteed he's in negotiations after seeing the result of DJ's deal

 

[denn]

Guaranteed he's in negotiations after seeing the result of DJ's deal

I wouldn't doubt if he has already had talks with everyone involved, but I doubt he would do it at this point in his career. He may though, as he would get pretty much whatever he wants from a money perspective.

 

[ChicagoFats]

I wouldn't doubt if he has already had talks with everyone involved, but I doubt he would do it at this point in his career. He may though, as he would get pretty much whatever he wants from a money perspective.

I read somewhere that Tiger was offered in the "high 9 figures" to join the LIV tour. Seems a bit excessive considering he pretty much sucks now, but i know he is a big draw no matter what.

 

[BurntJ]

I read somewhere that Tiger was offered in the "high 9 figures" to join the LIV tour. Seems a bit excessive considering he pretty much sucks now, but i know he is a big draw no matter what.

Greg Norman just said it publicly.

Watching the PGA's behavior is absolutely disgusting BUT it is pulling the curtain back on their treatment of players.

 

[Jayhacker]

Guaranteed he's in negotiations after seeing the result of DJ's deal

Already been rumored to be around a billion

 

[LVRebel]

Already been rumored to be around a billion

If he's interested in playing golf for the long term, it would be foolish not to take it. He's likely not going to be winning a lot more tournaments in the future with his limitations these days. Then again, it's not like he really needs the money, so who knows.

 

[BurntJ]

Guaranteed $ is going to draw a lot of players. I do not blame DJ for one second. Especially with that contract. Good for him and a loss for the PGA tour

Not just the Guaranteed…..check out the purse compared to the PGA. For reference Master winner got 2.7 mm. Winner of each of 8 events takes 4 mm home too.

PGA is projected to handle out a record 427 mm in total purses this year. Their new TV contract alone with get around 680 mm per year. That doesn’t include event sponsor money anything else.
Where is all the money going?

 

[denn]

Not just the Guaranteed…..check out the purse compared to the PGA. For reference Master winner got 2.7 mm. Winner of each of 8 events takes 4 mm home too.

PGA is projected to handle out a record 427 mm in total purses this year. Their new TV contract alone with get around 680 mm per year. That doesn’t include event sponsor money anything else.
Where is all the money going?

Yeah, it’s crazy money. I do think the large tours around the world are in for a fight from the LIV. I don’t think there’s one tour player right now that isn’t paying close attention. Especially with what DJ has chosen to do.

 

[denn]

I read somewhere that Tiger was offered in the "high 9 figures" to join the LIV tour. Seems a bit excessive considering he pretty much sucks now, but i know he is a big draw no matter what.

It’s all about ratings and sponsor. They get Tiger, the world will watch, sponsors will break down the door to throw money at them, and he wouldn’t have to play anything other than mediocre golf for it to be a win for that tour. I doubt he’d ever do it even with a big offer like that. Tiger doesn’t need to do it. I’ll will tell you one thing though, if he joined it, I would follow that tour right away.

 

[denn]

Bryson is going to play in the 2nd LIV event. IMO, only a matter of time before he is signing a deal with that tour.

 

[LVRebel]

Bryson is going to play in the 2nd LIV event. IMO, only a matter of time before he is signing a deal with that tour.

If they keep throwing out money the way they are, it's definitely going to draw a lot more players. If they're looking for someone that's not very good, I'll join for much less than these typical tour players.

 

[OTD Sports]

 

[Chuck 2020]

Whichever league this legend plays in, is the one I am watching.

 

[denn]

Whichever league this legend plays in, is the one I am watching.

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Always!

 

[TJHall1]

 

[LVRebel]

At least he's honest. I see he's going with the Top Gun themed attire today too

 

[TJHall1]

At least he's honest. I see he's going with the Top Gun themed attire today too

Pretty sure he's just trolling at this point. Love it.

 

[BurntJ]

Whichever league this legend plays in, is the one I am watching.

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None of these shit leagues are worthy of this LEGEND. I have always thought THE LEGENDS tour would be awesome......unfortunately, it would be a 1 man tour! Cigs and Beers for 18 holes and then celebration at Hooters......life doesn't get much better!

 

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[BurntJ]

PGA tour gonna be fucked when the lawsuits are final and all players are ruled to be independent contractors. I get the PGA is in scramble mode to protect their monopoly, but also expect their actions during this time will do more damage to the PGA long term image than anything.

 

[AgEngDawg]

 

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[TJHall1]

Holy shit that was awesome. He got sniped. The flop was epic, down to his knees and then onto his back with a headwhip.

 

[LVRebel]

Holy shit that was awesome. He got sniped. The flop was epic, down to his knees and then onto his back with a headwhip.

Is that guy dead?

 

[OTD Sports]

 

[Uncle Muscles]

Knew it was coming at some point. WWE vs NWO

 

[LVRebel]

Knew it was coming at some point. WWE vs NWO

TLDR: Pay the middle and lower tier guys more and they'll sink the LIV tour quickly.

I think the biggest deal isn't going to be for the top players like McElroy, Justin Thomas, etc, but for the rest of the guys. If you regularly finish in the top 10, you're already making bank in the tournaments, plus, likely killing it in sponsorships. What about the guys that are in the 20-200 range? Yeah, it's cool competing against the top tier guys, but if you can get yourself some guaranteed money by playing in this other league, why not do it instead of missing cuts and barely getting paid when you finish #64 in a PGA event?

I mean, it's not chump change, but there were a handful of guys in this past Canada tournament that finished in that range and got paid around $18,500 for 4 tournament days, plus the practice rounds. I don't know if these guys get put up for free in hotels or not, but I'm sure they still have to pay for their flights, cars, meals, etc. That 18k won't go too far to pay for all of that, plus their regular home and living expenses. Not to mention the 80 or so guys that didn't even make the cut. Those guys get nothing.

If the PGA wants to hold on to their guys, they need to figure out a way to make it more lucrative for the other guys too, not just the top 10 guys every tournament. At the very least, pay these guys 10k or so for coming to play in the tournament, and then 25-50 for making the weekend. Or maybe give a living wage to all of the guys that qualify for their PGA players card, and keep everything else as is. Imagine being the 100 best doctor in the country, but scraping to make a living because you're not one of the 10 best.

 

[denn]

TLDR: Pay the middle and lower tier guys more and they'll sink the LIV tour quickly.

I think the biggest deal isn't going to be for the top players like McElroy, Justin Thomas, etc, but for the rest of the guys. If you regularly finish in the top 10, you're already making bank in the tournaments, plus, likely killing it in sponsorships. What about the guys that are in the 20-200 range? Yeah, it's cool competing against the top tier guys, but if you can get yourself some guaranteed money by playing in this other league, why not do it instead of missing cuts and barely getting paid when you finish #64 in a PGA event?

I mean, it's not chump change, but there were a handful of guys in this past Canada tournament that finished in that range and got paid around $18,500 for 4 tournament days, plus the practice rounds. I don't know if these guys get put up for free in hotels or not, but I'm sure they still have to pay for their flights, cars, meals, etc. That 18k won't go too far to pay for all of that, plus their regular home and living expenses. Not to mention the 80 or so guys that didn't even make the cut. Those guys get nothing.

If the PGA wants to hold on to their guys, they need to figure out a way to make it more lucrative for the other guys too, not just the top 10 guys every tournament. At the very least, pay these guys 10k or so for coming to play in the tournament, and then 25-50 for making the weekend. Or maybe give a living wage to all of the guys that qualify for their PGA players card, and keep everything else as is. Imagine being the 100 best doctor in the country, but scraping to make a living because you're not one of the 10 best.

One of Micklesons main reasons for doing why he is doing to is to drive up the purses for the guys in the middle and lower tires like you mentioned. Greg Norman has been pitching this for years as well.

The lower tiered guys are on the hook for all of their expenses. The guys like Rory, Tiger ect are treated FAR differently. Some of the reasons I get but the fact is the separation of benefits between those types and the guys grinding out Monday qualifiers is stark. I lost some repspect for Rory this past weekend for taking a shot at Norman and essentially his efforts to create a better living for all golfers, not just the spoiled stars. Who is fighting for the little guys on tour?

Good post LV!

 

[Taggart]

Is that guy dead?

Nah he's fine, hit him right in the ass.

 

[LVRebel]

Nah he's fine, hit him right in the ass.

Quite a fall then, given where he was hit. Like he got shot or something.

 

[LVRebel]

One of Micklesons main reasons for doing why he is doing to is to drive up the purses for the guys in the middle and lower tires like you mentioned. Greg Norman has been pitching this for years as well.

The lower tiered guys are on the hook for all of their expenses. The guys like Rory, Tiger ect are treated FAR differently. Some of the reasons I get but the fact is the separation of benefits between those types and the guys grinding out Monday qualifiers is stark. I lost some repspect for Rory this past weekend for taking a shot at Norman and essentially his efforts to create a better living for all golfers, not just the spoiled stars. Who is fighting for the little guys on tour?

Good post LV!

Exactly. There shouldn't be such a wide margin in the payouts. I have no doubt that they can find a way to make it more a livable wage for those guys.

 

[RollyInRaleigh]

It’s sick listening to all the media pinheads, who’d switch networks in a hot minute for a pay raise, talk about all the hurt feelings and how guys should be playing for the love of the game...hell, I don’t see any of the top players playing as an Amateur and selling insurance to make a living. Screw all these hypocrites...

 

[denn]

It’s sick listening to all the media pinheads, who’d switch networks in a hot minute for a pay raise, talk about all the hurt feelings and how guys should be playing for the love of the game...hell, I don’t see any of the top players playing as an Amateur and selling insurance to make a living. Screw all these hypocrites...

Every single media type blasted Phil for a disastrous press conference yesterday and I watched the entire thing, twice. The only disaster is that of the media, especially Rich Lerner (absolute ass hat liberal piece of garbage IMO) and the rest of the clowns on golf channel. I though Phil answered the leading questions very well and with great pause with his responses. He was professional and did his absolute best to keep things from being negative towards anyone involved.

Our media sucks in every form they have in this country. Absolute garbage.