Master Afghan thread / Taliban holding Americans prisoner

[America 1st]

 

[America 1st]

 

[America 1st]

 

[Lilburncock]

And they left one nuke too soon.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Crazy after all the talk Trump had, Biden is the one to bring the troops home. Now the security state wants to impeach him. Lolz.

 

[Lilburncock]

Crazy after all the talk Trump had, Biden is the one to bring the troops home. Now the security state wants to impeach him. Lolz.

He brought 13 home dead.
Hard for me to praise him.
But you go ahead, in a short time here I've come to understand you are an idiot.

 

[America 1st]

Crazy after all the talk Trump had, Biden is the one to bring the troops home. Now the security state wants to impeach him. Lolz.

We all know it was Trump’s deal that just got poorly executed / destroyed by Puddin.

Trump deserves credit for ending the war. Puddin deserves to hold the deaths.

 

[BigBucnNole]

We all know it was Trump’s deal that just got poorly executed / destroyed by Puddin.

Trump deserves credit for ending the war. Puddin deserves to hold the deaths.

Of course...

Biden got us out though. Am I missing something?

 

[BigBucnNole]

He brought 13 home dead.
Hard for me to praise him.
But you go ahead, in a short time here I've come to understand you are an idiot.

Bu all the troops are home under Biden. Am I missing something?

 

[America 1st]

Of course...

Biden got us out though. Am I missing something?

Yeah the Americans and billions of dollars worth of equipment left behind.

So in reality he didn’t get us out. He just failed and got Americans killed.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Yeah the Americans and billions of dollars worth of equipment left behind.

So in reality he didn’t get us out. He just failed and got Americans killed.

Are we still in Afghanistan?

 

[America 1st]

Are we still in Afghanistan?

Yes.

Thousands of Americans are stranded there.

 

[America 1st]

 

[BigBucnNole]

Yes.

Thousands of Americans are stranded there.

When was 250 left considered thousands? Is that the new narrative from the mac and cheese republicans?

 

[America 1st]

When was 250 left considered thousands? Is that the new narrative from the mac and cheese republicans?

Since the security state started making up numbers to protect Puddin.

 

[America 1st]

 

[BigBucnNole]

Since the security state started making up numbers to protect Puddin.

You were just pimping articles from the security state denouncing Biden. I’m so confused...

 

[America 1st]

 

[America 1st]

You were just pimping articles from the security state denouncing Biden. I’m so confused...

S.O.P. for you

 

[BigBucnNole]

@America 1st wants to go back to Afghanistan?

 

[America 1st]

@America 1st wants to go back to Afghanistan?

Yore shameless.

 

[BurntJ]

Yore shameless.

Great….now that faggit def. will NOT pick tonight to KHS.

Seriously his troll game is way to weak to be rewarded….and with multiple responses too bro. Shirley life can’t be that boring for you……can it?

 

[America 1st]

Great….now that faggit def. will NOT pick tonight to KHS.

Seriously his troll game is way to weak to be rewarded….and with multiple responses too bro. Shirley life can’t be that boring for you……can it?

Yore one of the only other poster that reads my threads it seems.

I pretty much just post for my own amusement these days.

I’ll drink the appropriate amount of bleach now.

 

[Jayhacker]

Would those be the same guys that voted for joe?

 

[America 1st]

Would those be the same guys that voted for joe?

How fucking bad do things have to be to leave Americans behind?

Im at a loss.

 

[Jayhacker]

How fucking bad do things have to be to leave Americans behind?

Im at a loss.

Biden's world.

 

[Lilburncock]

Of course...

Biden got us out though. Am I missing something?

Yes.

 

[America 1st]

 

[MVTPatriot]

This fucking guy is going to take a victory lap today with a speech, while taking no questions.
10 to 1 the media puts a hard stop on all stories and questions regarding AFG.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Bu all the troops are home under Biden. Am I missing something?

If his job was to get us out of Afghanistan at all costs then he got the job done. However, the US Military usually strives for a little more than just getting the job done. We usually try to get the job done effectively, effciently and with as little loss of life as possible.

If we hold Biden accountable to US military standards he failed miserably.

 

[BigBucnNole]

If his job was to get us out of Afghanistan at all costs then he got the job done. However, the US Military usually strives for a little more than just getting the job done. We usually try to get the job done effectively, effciently and with as little loss of life as possible.

If we hold Biden accountable to US military standards he failed miserably.

That hasn’t been true for 20 years. The military is an utter shit show.

The problem I have is the inconsistency, he’s either an empty suit or he isn’t. Not sure how we can blame the deep state for Trump’s failing, call Biden an empty suit with his handlers, and now pretend Biden is a turbo charged President going against the best wishes of the technocrats/ deep state and causing all the chaos in Afghanistan.

P.S. I think he’s facing the same headwinds that Trump and Obama faced. Technocrats becoming more and more brazen. Trump didn’t know what the fuck he was doing, Biden is an old man without a lot of energy to do what needs to be done and fix the situation.

 

[BigBucnNole]

This fucking guy is going to take a victory lap today with a speech, while taking no questions.
10 to 1 the media puts a hard stop on all stories and questions regarding AFG.

He probably should. I think he did buck the generals and defense contractors that wanted to keep us there forever. Fuck them.

 

[MVTPatriot]

He probably should. I think he did buck the generals and defense contractors that wanted to keep us there forever. Fuck them.

So when he said he "went along with the consensus in the room", that's your idea of bucking the generals?

 

[BigBucnNole]

So when he said he "went along with the consensus in the room", that's your idea of bucking the generals?

I fucking hate this shit so much. This is exhibit A with everything wrong in this country. Clowns gobbling out of context sound bites up and thinking that is some sort of point.

Do you think the technocrats and defense contractors wanted to leave or stay?

Do you think the technocrats and defense contractors were lying over the state of readiness the Afghan military was at after having 20 years of development and billions poured into it?

 

[MVTPatriot]

I fucking hate this shit so much. This is exhibit A with everything wrong in this country. Clowns gobbling out of context sound bites up and thinking that is some sort of point.

Do you think the technocrats and defense contractors wanted to leave or stay?

Do you think the technocrats and defense contractors were lying over the state of readiness the Afghan military was at after having 20 years of development and billions poured into it?

One last chance to answer my question. Did he not say that? I saw him say it in the presser. How is it out of context?

 

[quickfeet]

"Very few hundreds" lol - let's act like that is not a big deal

 

[AgEngDawg]

Dang, the Tali got some hype new gear. Congrats!!!

 

[BigBucnNole]

One last chance to answer my question. Did he not say that? I saw him say it in the presser. How is it out of context?

lol, or what?

Let's try it this way...

My original response to you was "I think he did buck the generals and defense contractors that wanted to keep us there forever. Fuck them."

What that means is we have a large backroom technocrat problem that wanted to keep a forever war going. That's why we call it a forever war. He could have said "okay" and not "bucked the generals." Instead he said "no."

Yore magical counter punch of an argument referenced the quote “I took the consensus opinion. The consensus opinion was that, in fact, it would not occur, if it occurred, until later in the year.” "It" being the fall of Kabul. Which actually highlights my 2nd question in post #474: Do you think the technocrats and defense contractors were lying over the state of readiness the Afghan military was at after having 20 years of development and billions poured into it?

Your counterpoint is irrelevant to the original response I made as it references a situation not having a whole lot to do with the decision Biden made to leave, and "buck the generals," back in April or March or whenever.

Ironically your counterpoint reaffirms the second point I made in post #474 as this would seem to suggest that the generals and technocrats were at best completely wrong about the Afghan military, and at worst complicit in another lie.

 

[ChicagoFats]

That hasn’t been true for 20 years. The military is an utter shit show.

The problem I have is the inconsistency, he’s either an empty suit or he isn’t. Not sure how we can blame the deep state for Trump’s failing, call Biden an empty suit with his handlers, and now pretend Biden is a turbo charged President going against the best wishes of the technocrats/ deep state and causing all the chaos in Afghanistan.

P.S. I think he’s facing the same headwinds that Trump and Obama faced. Technocrats becoming more and more brazen. Trump didn’t know what the fuck he was doing, Biden is an old man without a lot of energy to do what needs to be done and fix the situation.

nm

 

[America 1st]