Fat Acceptance in America

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

What do you all think about fat acceptance in America?

I think it's everyone's individual responsibility to accept how healthy they are. If you are overweight and unhealthy admit so and take some personal responsibility. There is no "Big Boned". This applies to both Men & Women however the movement seems to be geared more towards women.

 

[Jayhacker]

Bib Stacey approves X 10

 

[MVTPatriot]

It's much like Gender Dysphoria. You enable it and it does no good for the person or society in general.

 

[CBradSmith]

Is unacceptable.



Any more brain busters?

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

Is unacceptable.



Any more brain busters?

No at the moment. I'm honestly just waiting for somebody to argue against it. I'm sure If I posted that on Twitter my account would be deleted in a matter of seconds.

 

[Srufiopunk28]

I enjoy watching the fats on social media lecture the healthy people regarding masks, and covid vaccinations.

 

[AmericanViking]

To borrow from Mr. MacDonald

“Now being fat is beautiful? Name a thing that you can't do?
Jumping jacks, run a mile, live past 42”

Even those that are naturally built heavier and have a hard time losing fat should work to keep it at a minimum.

 

[CBradSmith]

No at the moment. I'm honestly just waiting for somebody to argue against it. I'm sure If I posted that on Twitter my account would be deleted in a matter of seconds.

Enabling the obese to feel okay about their fatness is what opened up the can on all this other crap.

Liter-a-cola....sounds good, doesnt work.




I guess I'm missing what you're asking.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

Enabling the obese to feel okay about their fatness is what opened up the can on all this other crap.

Liter-a-cola....sounds good, doesnt work.




I guess I'm missing what you're asking.

Enabling bad habits on anyone is not ok. well that's if you care about them. If it's someone you hate, oh well. Yeah Fat acceptance seems to have opened many doors. I mean Nuclear Family / American Dream style families were never perfect but they were a lot better off than what we have today.

Hell, half the time I don't even know what I'm asking

 

[America 1st]

Enabling the obese to feel okay about their fatness is what opened up the can on all this other crap.

Liter-a-cola....sounds good, doesnt work.




I guess I'm missing what you're asking.

Now hold on a second...

 

[Viking]

To borrow from Mr. MacDonald

“Now being fat is beautiful? Name a thing that you can't do?
Jumping jacks, run a mile, live past 42”

Even those that are naturally built heavier and have a hard time losing fat should work to keep it at a minimum.

It is known Vikings have big bones. SKOL!

 

[Ddub]

It's much like Gender Dysphoria. You enable it and it does no good for the person or society in general.

 

[BurntJ]

Enabling the obese to feel okay about their fatness is what opened up the can on all this other crap.

Liter-a-cola....sounds good, doesnt work.




I guess I'm missing what you're asking.

Whoa....obligatory

 

[BurntJ]

Enabling bad habits on anyone is not ok. well that's if you care about them. If it's someone you hate, oh well. Yeah Fat acceptance seems to have opened many doors. I mean Nuclear Family / American Dream style families were never perfect but they were a lot better off than what we have today.

Hell, half the time I don't even know what I'm asking

So what you're saying is....we shouldn't allow others to do anything WE consider to be a bad habit/negative.

I have always believed.....as an American, its their right to make their own choice. Like Elections....choices have consequences.

So when it come to me telling others how to live OR VICE VERSA...

 

[MVTPatriot]

So what you're saying is....we shouldn't allow others to do anything WE consider to be a bad habit/negative.

I have always believed.....as an American, its their right to make their own choice. Like Elections....choices have consequences.

So when it come to me telling others how to live OR VICE VERSA...

People do have the right to choose their own behaviors but we as as society shouldn't celebrate them. Imagine celebrating people with split personality disorder, or Schizophrenia?
There is nothing celebratory about being overweight. All kinds of health issues and when you have nearly 40% of Americans that check that box, then it puts an unhealthy burden(health insurance costs) on the rest of society.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

So what you're saying is....we shouldn't allow others to do anything WE consider to be a bad habit/negative.

I have always believed.....as an American, its their right to make their own choice. Like Elections....choices have consequences.

So when it come to me telling others how to live OR VICE VERSA...

I could not explain it any better than @MVTPatriot just did

 

[imprimis]

There are many Stacy Abrams' in my hometown both in size and beliefs.

 

[BurntJ]

People do have the right to choose their own behaviors but we as as society shouldn't celebrate them. Imagine celebrating people with split personality disorder, or Schizophrenia?
There is nothing celebratory about being overweight. All kinds of health issues and when you have nearly 40% of Americans that check that box, then it puts an unhealthy burden(health insurance costs) on the rest of society.

Huh? Who is celebrating that? I stated that its their individual right. I don't believe it to be ok to limit yours or my rights bc others make bad decisions. I get what you are saying....BUT your statement leads to the slippery slope that got us here.

I don't....like/celebrate/promote or anything else when it comes to bad habits/behaviors.....BUT I will never think it is ok to limit anyone's right b/c of other peoples behavior/choices/decisions.

At the end of the People (Americans especially) have become to wrapped up in telling everyone else how to act/believe/live/etc and not enough time worrying about ourselves. (ex. Karens and masks)

 

[BurntJ]

I could not explain it any better than @MVTPatriot just did

well then you too should look at my response. You are promoting telling FREE people how to live their lives.....

FYI: Am I really having this discussion on "The Free Speech Forum" JFC FML (mind blown emoji)

 

[MVTPatriot]

Huh? Who is celebrating that? I stated that its their individual right. I don't believe it to be ok to limit yours or my rights bc others make bad decisions. I get what you are saying....BUT your statement leads to the slippery slope that got us here.

I don't....like/celebrate/promote or anything else when it comes to bad habits/behaviors.....BUT I will never think it is ok to limit anyone's right b/c of other peoples behavior/choices/decisions.

At the end of the People (Americans especially) have become to wrapped up in telling everyone else how to act/believe/live/etc and not enough time worrying about ourselves. (ex. Karens and masks)

I guess I'm not making my point clear. I agree with you in that no one has the right to tell another how to live their lives. Especially if it's within the rules of a civilized society.

I do however think that we(society) should not be telling people that are overweight, or have gender dysphoria that's it's perfectly normal to be 300 lbs, or identify as the opposite sex.

No, we shouldn't stigmatize these people, but those close to them should get them the proper help(whether physical or mental) they may need.

 

[America 1st]

Huh? Who is celebrating that? I stated that its their individual right. I don't believe it to be ok to limit yours or my rights bc others make bad decisions. I get what you are saying....BUT your statement leads to the slippery slope that got us here.

I don't....like/celebrate/promote or anything else when it comes to bad habits/behaviors.....BUT I will never think it is ok to limit anyone's right b/c of other peoples behavior/choices/decisions.

At the end of the People (Americans especially) have become to wrapped up in telling everyone else how to act/believe/live/etc and not enough time worrying about ourselves. (ex. Karens and masks)

This.

Fats are no different than smokers, drunks, people addicted to pain killers, gambling addicts, coiners, video game addicts, ect.

It might be a "burden" on society but we need to be intellectually honest and consistent with the "freedoms" thing.

 

[AgEngDawg]

What do you all think about fat acceptance in America?

I think it's everyone's individual responsibility to accept how healthy they are. If you are overweight and unhealthy admit so and take some personal responsibility. There is no "Big Boned". This applies to both Men & Women however the movement seems to be geared more towards women.

I must come to the defense of thicc girls. I hope we are not referring to those fine ladies in this thread.

160 lb to 195 lb ladies with junk in the trunk are my sweet spot. Even up to 205 lbs for the right frame girl. That is the range I operate in.

They might as well have a bullseye on them when I see them at the club.

Much like General Beauregard, I enjoy the company of a plump woman.

 

[tiderollsonu]

God blessed us with light switches for a reason.... everyone needs a slump buster every now and again

 

[MVTPatriot]

This.

Fats are no different than smokers, drunks, people addicted to pain killers, gambling addicts, coiners, video game addicts, ect.

It might be a "burden" on society but we need to be intellectually honest and consistent with the "freedoms" thing.

Agreed, but no one is celebrating the vices you listed above. When the CIA is running ads with a transgender(and celebrating it), I think we've jumped the shark on that issue.

Same with being overweight. God didn't intend for man/woman to be 3 bills or more while living on a diet of Bon Bon's, Cheeto's and Chicken Wings.

I seriously doubt that a Primary Care Dr. is going to encourage someone in that condition to, "keep up what you are doing".

 

[America 1st]

Agreed, but no one is celebrating the vices you listed above. When the CIA is running ads with a transgender(and celebrating it), I think we've jumped the shark on that issue.

Same with being overweight. God didn't intend for man/woman to be 3 bills or more while living on a diet of Bon Bon's, Cheeto's and Chicken Wings.

I seriously doubt that a Primary Care Dr. is going to encourage someone in that condition to, "keep up what you are doing".

Addicts get much more cover than fats IMO but reasonable minds can disagree.

 

[MVTPatriot]

Addicts get much more cover than fats IMO but reasonable minds can disagree.

Agree again. Cover is one thing, encouraging the behavior is another.

 

[America 1st]

Agree again. Cover is one thing, encouraging the behavior is another.

I guess I just don't see the "encouraging" fats?

Seems like they get plenty of cover but the whole go healthy movement has really touched most parts of society from a left to right perspective IMO.

Now with vaping, gambling, smoking, drinking, pain killers, street drugs, were talking about being 99% of the way to encouraging in large parts of society with doctors and their prescriptions being just one example.

 

[Wait What]

No at the moment. I'm honestly just waiting for somebody to argue against it. I'm sure If I posted that on Twitter my account would be deleted in a matter of seconds.

ALL PEOPLE ARE BEAUTIFUL YOU FAT-SHAMING SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MVTPatriot]

I guess I just don't see the "encouraging" fats?

Seems like they get plenty of cover but the whole go healthy movement has really touched most parts of society from a left to right perspective IMO.

Now with vaping, gambling, smoking, drinking, pain killers, street drugs, were talking about being 99% of the way to encouraging in large parts of society with doctors and their prescriptions being just one example.

You summarized the human condition in your last paragraph. We are all faulty and run the risk of sliding into a bad behavior even though the initial intent(Dr. prescription) was good.
Where I've noticed it more I guess with being fat is with something like the overweight super model in a bikini in SI.
Where some might see something as being more subtle, others may see it as more overt.

 

[BurntJ]

I guess I'm not making my point clear. I agree with you in that no one has the right to tell another how to live their lives. Especially if it's within the rules of a civilized society.

I do however think that we(society) should not be telling people that are overweight, or have gender dysphoria that's it's perfectly normal to be 300 lbs, or identify as the opposite sex.

No, we shouldn't stigmatize these people, but those close to them should get them the proper help(whether physical or mental) they may need.

The problem with this logic is:

WHO DECIDES? Is 1 person the king? Does everyone get a say (B/C this is where we are right now).

you are literally acting as the decider. So what if you think 175 is ok BUT a person weights 176.....they must be (forced) to get help? I added forced in there bc you seem to be positive that all the fat people are just waiting for someone to get the proper help. I don’t claim to know or want to make decisions on others lives.

I as a patriot....want less incursion into ALL LIVES. Let people live their lives how the choose.

 

[BurntJ]

I must come to the defense of thicc girls. I hope we are not referring to those fine ladies in this thread.

160 lb to 195 lb ladies with junk in the trunk are my sweet spot. Even up to 205 lbs for the right frame girl. That is the range I operate in.

They might as well have a bullseye on them when I see them at the club.

Much like General Beauregard, I enjoy the company of a plump woman.

Just NOT breakfast though....nobody wants to look at that shit in the am....after a bender that got you to place where she was a win.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

well then you too should look at my response. You are promoting telling FREE people how to live their lives.....

FYI: Am I really having this discussion on "The Free Speech Forum" JFC FML (mind blown emoji)

All I'm trying to say is if I see a fat fuck and I call him a fat fuck (man or women) don't get offended and be a pussy about it

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

I must come to the defense of thicc girls. I hope we are not referring to those fine ladies in this thread.

160 lb to 195 lb ladies with junk in the trunk are my sweet spot. Even up to 205 lbs for the right frame girl. That is the range I operate in.

They might as well have a bullseye on them when I see them at the club.

Much like General Beauregard, I enjoy the company of a plump woman.

Oh I love thicc girls, but there is a limit. If I can eat an entire 3 layer cake off of your ass without it falling off it's probably time for you to hit the gym. Plus it doesn't age that well. How many "Thicc" grandmas do you see?

 

[BurntJ]

All I'm trying to say is if I see a fat fuck and I call him a fat fuck (man or women) don't get offended and be a pussy about it

Whoa now....thats NOT at ALL what you said.

I am all for calling a fat a fat and whatnot....

But I am NOT for a system/gov where others can tell you how to live your live based on their scale.

Freedom is knowing I don't have THOSE rights because NO ONE has THOSE rights over me.


(We are in such a fucked up place right now that most people are literally breaking the GOLDEN FUCKING RULE.)

 

[AgEngDawg]

Oh I love thicc girls, but there is a limit. If I can eat an entire 3 layer cake off of your ass without it falling off it's probably time for you to hit the gym. Plus it doesn't age that well. How many "Thicc" grandmas do you see?

Oh, I am out the door next morning.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

The problem with this logic is:

WHO DECIDES? Is 1 person the king? Does everyone get a say (B/C this is where we are right now).

you are literally acting as the decider. So what if you think 175 is ok BUT a person weights 176.....they must be (forced) to get help? I added forced in there bc you seem to be positive that all the fat people are just waiting for someone to get the proper help. I don’t claim to know or want to make decisions on others lives.

I as a patriot....want less incursion into ALL LIVES. Let people live their lives how the choose.

I mean you will always have a societal "normal". This will differ based on country and city. The common person will tend to edge people that don't "fit in" to the societal norm. Government or no government.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

Oh, I am out the door next morning.

I like to see that you are a pump n dump person

 

[AgEngDawg]

Question: do you think Jay Cutler (bodybuilder, not shitty QB) is healthy?

 

[MVTPatriot]

The problem with this logic is:

WHO DECIDES? Is 1 person the king? Does everyone get a say (B/C this is where we are right now).

you are literally acting as the decider. So what if you think 175 is ok BUT a person weights 176.....they must be (forced) to get help? I added forced in there bc you seem to be positive that all the fat people are just waiting for someone to get the proper help. I don’t claim to know or want to make decisions on others lives.

I as a patriot....want less incursion into ALL LIVES. Let people live their lives how the choose.

No where in my comments do I say we should force or even shame fats to losing weight. If you want to eat yourself into oblivion, have at it.
My position is simply that we shouldn’t celebrate it. If someone is holding up Stacy Abrams as a model of health, I simply disagree. At her weight, she is more predisposed to hyper tension, high BP, heart disease, diabetes and other physical challenges.
I’m not in anyway going to go out of my way to intrude into her life and try and force to do anything.
I agree about less intrusions. Do what you want, but you don’t get to bitch about the consequences.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

Whoa now....thats NOT at ALL what you said.

I am all for calling a fat a fat and whatnot....

But I am NOT for a system/gov where others can tell you how to live your live based on their scale.

Freedom is knowing I don't have THOSE rights because NO ONE has THOSE rights over me.


(We are in such a fucked up place right now that most people are literally breaking the GOLDEN FUCKING RULE.)

Oh ok yeah. For the record I am NOT ok with the Government telling people how to live their lives. As for the Golden Rule. If I'm living an unhealthy lifestyle I would want somebody to bring it to my attention and help me through it for my own personal benefit. ESPECIALLY my Doctor.