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Thats not what I’m talking about, how would they manipulate Bitcoin or a crypto that’s already distributed and decentralized in use given the design considerations? You can’t just say “oh they’re the deep state they can do whatever” that shows a really poor grasp of what crypto is

Of course they could define their own coins, but they can’t force mass adoption even if it wasn’t cost prohibitive to do so (which it is). They’re not gonna come out and say “hey guys buy gov coin from now on” and just go ahead and eliminate all the cryptos that exist, they can’t do that

Maybe becasue he's a Horn but Jordan Peters "gets it".
 
That's exactly why the idea of banning cryptos shouldn't surprise anyone.
I’m totally with you here that the gov would absolutely love to get rid of any money that they can’t cook the books with, but you need to feel better about how futile their attempt to ban and peddle another crypto would be. It’s not even close to as easy as you are thinking it would be
 
I’m totally with you here that the gov would absolutely love to get rid of any money that they can’t cook the books with, but you need to feel better about how futile their attempt to ban and peddle another crypto would be. It’s not even close to as easy as you are thinking it would be
Are you of this belief simply because of the losses that would occur?

Technologically speaking it could be done relatively easily.
 
McCombs Men have to do our part to hold up the rankings of the school that the Liberal Arts majors have so heavily tanked...so that all Texans may hold their heads high. Proud to do my part sir, credit to FIN357 and Robert Duvic

Actually I have a BA in Government & Economics from Texas. (Was thinking law school but didn't go.)

I've been battle-tested against libs since college due to my curriculum choice.

Just call me a Liberal Arts "Outlier" that understands numbers and finance ;)

Hopefully we can still be friends :cool:
 
'Conservatism' is seeing a lot of changes these days.

Old school 'conservatives' are going to have to stomach things that 10 years ago would have seemed unimaginable.

Just look at stimulus checks or tariffs as a few examples.
Fiat currency and modern monetary policy render it obsolete from the jump. Practically, fiscal responsibility is wiped out quickly and the politics of it are a disaster.

I saw your crypto back and forth and actually share your concerns, as decentralized deflationary currency would severely damage if not destroy the true elites.

That being said, anything short of massive banking/financial reform/overhaul is wasting our time

"Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency" -keynes
 
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All it would take is an EO banning banks and platforms from handling or dealing in it.

Furthermore an EO could easily ban retail investors from trading in it.

People already buy and sell crypto across the net so using the net to attack cryptos would be pretty straight forward. They can go after the wallets too as another means.

You don't have to eliminate the crypto from existing to end it's usefulness and demand.

All that would need done is allowing gov crypto to be the only tradable crypto. Central banks and gov are prepared to do this if crypto demand exceeds certain thresholds vs fiat over the next 2 years as gov cryptos come online.

The 'decentealized' line means nothing. Govs can ban the dealing or handling of pretty much anything especially in the US.
 
Fiat currency and modern monetary policy render it obsolete from the jump. Practically, fiscal responsibility is wiped out quickly and the politics of it are a disaster.

I saw your crypto back and forth and actually share your concerns, as decentralized deflationary currency would severely damage if not destroy the true elites.

Anything short of massive banking/financial reform/overhaul is wasting our time

"Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency" -keynes
I'd agree. We definitely should go back to gold.

Also agree with your position on 'fiscal responsibility' under fiat. It's silly to even try and actually destructive to acquiring resources.
 
I'd agree. We definitely should go back to gold.

Also agree with your position on 'fiscal responsibility' under fiat. It's silly to even try and actually destructive to acquiring resources.
I think a truly decentralized crypto currency is better than Gold

My problem with Bitcoin is the classic "to good to be true"

My problem with gold is it basically requires a note or paper currency of some sort for everyday transactions, let alone it's fungability limitations
 
I think a truly decentralized crypto currency is better than Gold

My problem with Bitcoin is the classic "to good to be true"

My problem with gold is it basically requires a note or paper currency of some sort for everyday transactions, let alone it's fungability limitations
Depends what someone values in their 'currency'.

Crypto would have certain properties notes backed by gold could never achieve and vise versa.

If the goal of currency is to facilitate economic activity then gold is likely better as it's stable.

Economic activity is possible via trust so skepticism over cryptos will keep them down until they are regulated by governments and people trust them more. Once that happens individual coins will be moved to store of value status if they are allowed to still be traded at all (terrorism).

They've already tied cryptos to terrorism, communist nations, and illegal activity so it just takes someone pushing the envelope and boom.

People should also note that cryptos are technically a form speech since code has been ruled a form of speech by the SCOTUS. It's not a coincidence that speech is being highly regulated currently (and in new ways previously unimaginable) and blockchain of all types falls under this domain.

 

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