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ETNVol

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...and why is he being allowed to do those things with so little pushback in Florida? They knew they could win without Florida...so why not let their plant get some great national attention...get him elected and still be in control. I think this shit runs deep...and he is a Bush clone in my opinion.

Desantis has done little to show any attachment to the deep state. He is under constant attack, we just don't see it because he's not nearly the national figure Trump is, and at this point, hasn't announced that he's running for president.

You've let devotion to Trump blind you. Trump has made overture after overture to the deep state. Hired them, appointed them, endorses them, all but begs for their affection, and all that leads to you to conclude Desantis is deep state. Fox News has betrayed him repeatedly, yet he keeps going back to Hannity & Co. Trump appointed Mitch McConnell's judges, gave Paul Ryan his tax cut, yet didn't force them to fund his phony wall, did nothing to improve election integrity. Trump may not be full-speed-ahead on the the globalist train that the dem party is, but long-term, he's running on the same track. Adding trillions to the national debt, pushing the kill-shot vaccine, and pandering to homosexuals crushes arguments to the contrary.

You're worried patriots are being played by Desantis? Perhaps, time will tell. But the fact is we've already been played by Trump. Maybe he'll do yet another interview with Maggie Haberman and clear things up.
 

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Desantis has done little to show any attachment to the deep state. He is under constant attack, we just don't see it because he's not nearly the national figure Trump is, and at this point, hasn't announced that he's running for president.

You've let devotion to Trump blind you. Trump has made overture after overture to the deep state. Hired them, appointed them, endorses them, all but begs for their affection, and all that leads to you to conclude Desantis is deep state. Fox News has betrayed him repeatedly, yet he keeps going back to Hannity & Co. Trump appointed Mitch McConnell's judges, gave Paul Ryan his tax cut, yet didn't force them to fund his phony wall, did nothing to improve election integrity. Trump may not be full-speed-ahead on the the globalist train that the dem party is, but long-term, he's running on the same track. Adding trillions to the national debt, pushing the kill-shot vaccine, and pandering to homosexuals crushes arguments to the contrary.

You're worried patriots are being played by Desantis? Perhaps, time will tell. But the fact is we've already been played by Trump. Maybe he'll do yet another interview with Maggie Haberman and clear things up.
So he is “pandering” to the homosexuals for hosting the log cabin republicans at MAL… lol, ok. One of the best choices he mad was hiring Ric Grenell. Did he make some bad choices, oh hell yes he did. He took bad advice from the wrong people. Does that make him deep state, hell no it doesn’t.
 

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Desantis has done little to show any attachment to the deep state. He is under constant attack, we just don't see it because he's not nearly the national figure Trump is, and at this point, hasn't announced that he's running for president.

You've let devotion to Trump blind you. Trump has made overture after overture to the deep state. Hired them, appointed them, endorses them, all but begs for their affection, and all that leads to you to conclude Desantis is deep state. Fox News has betrayed him repeatedly, yet he keeps going back to Hannity & Co. Trump appointed Mitch McConnell's judges, gave Paul Ryan his tax cut, yet didn't force them to fund his phony wall, did nothing to improve election integrity. Trump may not be full-speed-ahead on the the globalist train that the dem party is, but long-term, he's running on the same track. Adding trillions to the national debt, pushing the kill-shot vaccine, and pandering to homosexuals crushes arguments to the contrary.

You're worried patriots are being played by Desantis? Perhaps, time will tell. But the fact is we've already been played by Trump. Maybe he'll do yet another interview with Maggie Haberman and clear things up.
I can't speak for Rolly but Desantis being pumped up by the RINO's worries me. I am not a Trump lover either. Just do not trust anyone the establishment backs. To be fair I don't trust Trump either. He is an opportunist who wants nothing more than to stroke his ego as much as he can. I like Trumps' message but his actual actions on many things, leaves a lot to be desired. Even though he did say it is the individuals choice on the jab, I do not like that he willfully promoted it......even though it was an experimental drug that we still do not have sufficient data on.
 

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So he is “pandering” to the homosexuals for hosting the log cabin republicans at MAL… lol, ok. One of the best choices he mad was hiring Ric Grenell. Did he make some bad choices, oh hell yes he did. He took bad advice from the wrong people. Does that make him deep state, hell no it doesn’t.
Grennell was one of my favorite hires of Trump and there are not many I can say that about.
 

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Good points. Also add that drones are small and slow. They won’t show up on radar, no heat, low sound.

Therefore, they have to be visually observed From either the ground or air. Current jet aircraft fly too fast to see the small target and then be able to shoot it with projectile ammo.

The best air defense platform to defeat attack drones will be other drones. Or you could put together a single engine propeller fighter group to constantly patrol and kill drones. The return of the bi-plane Might be necessary.
Article said SK launched Attack Helicopters which would be the perfect choice for defeating a drone as you described - still 0-fer.
 
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I can't speak for Rolly but Desantis being pumped up by the RINO's worries me. I am not a Trump lover either. Just do not trust anyone the establishment backs. To be fair I don't trust Trump either. He is an opportunist who wants nothing more than to stroke his ego as much as he can. I like Trumps' message but his actual actions on many things, leaves a lot to be desired. Even though he did say it is the individuals choice on the jab, I do not like that he willfully promoted it......even though it was an experimental drug that we still do not have sufficient data on.
The only thing I can say about Trump is that he is the only President in my lifetime who had the balls to challenge the establishment and I have not seen anyone else that comes even close. I will support him again. I didn’t ever like him until he became President but based on what he has done, I’ll be damned if I’m gonna turn my back on him. People can complain about his mistakes and what he should’ve done and who he should’ve hired or appointed but there is nobody who has come close to his “Ballsy” accomplishments...
 
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Desantis has done little to show any attachment to the deep state. He is under constant attack, we just don't see it because he's not nearly the national figure Trump is, and at this point, hasn't announced that he's running for president.

You've let devotion to Trump blind you. Trump has made overture after overture to the deep state. Hired them, appointed them, endorses them, all but begs for their affection, and all that leads to you to conclude Desantis is deep state. Fox News has betrayed him repeatedly, yet he keeps going back to Hannity & Co. Trump appointed Mitch McConnell's judges, gave Paul Ryan his tax cut, yet didn't force them to fund his phony wall, did nothing to improve election integrity. Trump may not be full-speed-ahead on the the globalist train that the dem party is, but long-term, he's running on the same track. Adding trillions to the national debt, pushing the kill-shot vaccine, and pandering to homosexuals crushes arguments to the contrary.

You're worried patriots are being played by Desantis? Perhaps, time will tell. But the fact is we've already been played by Trump. Maybe he'll do yet another interview with Maggie Haberman and clear things up.
Not really
 

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The way I think about it Gold & silver are wealth preservation tools. For the most part a low interest savings account minus the devaluation plus the fact that it’s a tangible physical asset. If you never cash it in it is also a wealth transfer tool to the family.

Like anything else you don’t want all your eggs in one basket & your financial situation should determine your exposure. If your financial situation allows you to put larger dollar amounts tucked away for long periods of time without stress, then gold is more for you, if you don’t have that much financial freedom then silver is more in line. A mixture of both is best. Easier to cash in a $25 silver ounce than a $2k gold one imo. But also easier to store/carry $2k worth of gold than $2k worth of silver.

Shit truly hits the fan, who really knows, but gold & silver have had value throughout history in all cultures without fail. Preparing for that situation I’d make sure I had ammo & a few reliable guns stored first.

Central banks divested themselves of most of their holdings after the dollar decoupling in 74. However since 2012 they’ve repurchased that amount & then some. The last two years they’ve began taking massive amounts of physical delivery in lieu of paper now stripping the holding houses to very high ratios.

Imo, if gold & silver are antiquated forms of money with no place in modern society, why are central banks around the world willing to afford the cost of taking & holding these huge physical deliveries?

if u have time check out those YouTube sources I posted in the last reply. Start with yankee stacking.
Thank you very much for this info. I’m going to give this some thought.
 

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The only thing I can say about Trump is that he is the only President in my lifetime who had the balls to challenge the establishment and I have not seen anyone else that comes even close. I will support him again. I didn’t ever like him until he became President but based on what he has done, I’ll be damned if I’m gonna turn my back on him. People can complain about his mistakes and what he should’ve done and who he should’ve hired or appointed but there is nobody who has come close to his “Ballsy” accomplishments...
Good post and I can get behind all that. I complain about his mistakes but I understand he was/is going to make them. His personnel decisions were pretty awful and if is/was genuine about America first, those decisions derailed much of his agenda.. I would still vote for him against anyone the dems run for sure and most of the reps as well. If for no other reason, he seems to put the brakes on the dems experiment into fill blown socialism being put on us.
 

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Good post and I can get behind all that. I complain about his mistakes but I understand he was/is going to make them. His personnel decisions were pretty awful and if is/was genuine about America first, those decisions derailed much of his agenda.. I would still vote for him against anyone the dems run for sure and most of the reps as well. If for no other reason, he seems to put the brakes on the dems experiment into fill blown socialism being put on us.
It’s not just the Democrats. I look at it as Anti-Establishment vs Establishment. I believe that republicans and democrats is nothing more than a myth that divides “We the People.” The republicans have basically been nothing more than controlled opposition.
 

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A quick counterpoint.

Who here know who Anthony Fauci was in 2019? I'm willing to guess it was less than 2-3% of the board, and this is a relatively educated bunch. Of the general population, I'm guessing it was less than .5%

Fauci had to become removed from the shadows. The NAID IS the funding mechanism for Big Pharma. The head of the snake had to be revealed, IMHO, before you can cut it off.

IF DeSantis, and his team in Florida, do enough to shutdown Phizer, Merck, Lilly, Bayer, etc..., then it was all worth it. If that was the game theory that Trump had to play during a time of war, then it would be worth it in the long-run.

This won't just take down Big Pharma. It takes down the corrupt healthcare system that is becoming the second largest debt layer for our citizens, 2nd to mortgages, AND begins to unravel the DARPA network that is incubated in the "Research" community. Guess where most of that research is done? At universities.

During the early part of the pandemic in 2020, I had a call with the Chief Strategy Officer at UCLA. They (the leadership at UCLA) wasn't worried about the health system in the long run, but what they were very worried about was the entire university. It turns out the health system, which does about $15 billion/year in revenue, subsidizes a significant portion of the overall university. The loss of potential margin for the health system, which the government subsidized via COVID reimbursement (not yet finalized during the time of the call) was also the same margin that would be used to keep the university, which was effectively shutdown, afloat. And what does the government utilize the university apparatus to do? Conduct "research."

That is how all of this ties together.
I’m guessing it was 50%+ many of us knew about Fauci from wikileaks. Hillary Clinton’s “favorite Doctor”
 

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Desantis reaily being pushed by the establishment...imagine that.
Exactly. It’s almost like DeSantis blew up imitating Trump and now the Left/RINOs want him.

Couldn’t be an agenda.

2024 - Trump/Lake. If he could win with that piece of shit Pence then Lake will actually brings votes. If the DS doesn’t cheat again.
 
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So he is “pandering” to the homosexuals for hosting the log cabin republicans at MAL… lol, ok. One of the best choices he mad was hiring Ric Grenell. Did he make some bad choices, oh hell yes he did. He took bad advice from the wrong people. Does that make him deep state, hell no it doesn’t.

"He took bad advice from the wrong people." Advice and people I'd wager 80%+ of the regulars in this thread would have known was bad or wrong when it was first given. We wouldn't accept that excuse from our doctor, lawyer, mechanic, accountant, but for some reason we do with Trump? That alone shows he's unfit for the task at hand, which is ultimately my concern with him.

How else do you describe holding a Ball celebrating sodomites, while saying “We are fighting for the gay community, and we are fighting and fighting hard. With the help of many of the people here tonight in recent years, our movement has taken incredible strides, the strides you’ve made here is incredible.” It's not like the gays rented out Mara Lago and Trump happened to be there, he was the star of the show.

How is that not pandering?

The embrace of homosexuality is very much deep state. Destroying gender roles and the family unit is a necessary piece of the globalists' agenda, one they've spent 50+ years forcing on us. It's so successful now that some colleges and universities have a majority of students claiming to be so. America can't fall if the family is strong. And the family can't be strong if its leaders - including Trump - are behind or accepting of an agenda that does anything other than call homosexuality exactly what it is.

I didn't say Trump was deep state, though from how he operated, he might as well be. Almost as bad, he craves the deep state's acceptance and attention, clearly does not recognize them as the enemy they are, and when the fight was presented, he balked. Period. It's comical how some of you bend over backwards to excuse his deep-state appointments and promotions. Many of you are under his spell because of his tough-talking speeches, but when it came to the gov't shutdown over the wall, Trump folded. That the one-world totalitarian train rolled a little slower along the tracks than it is with Biden is no reason to back Trump.

Trump isn't attacked because he's anti-deep state. Trump is attacked because the globalists know that the more dangerous portion of the pro-America movement - patriotic gun enthusiasts, middle-aged hunters, bikers, ex-military, etc - is pro-Trump. They're attacking him to get to those who support him. Has nothing to do with Trump being the man the DS fears, it's about his followers. If it were just Trump they were concerned about, they'd Seth Rich him and be done with it.
 

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So he is “pandering” to the homosexuals for hosting the log cabin republicans at MAL… lol, ok. One of the best choices he mad was hiring Ric Grenell. Did he make some bad choices, oh hell yes he did. He took bad advice from the wrong people. Does that make him deep state, hell no it doesn’t.
Why are you still arguing with that BLM supporter?

Ignore is such a wonderful feature.
 

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"He took bad advice from the wrong people." Advice and people I'd wager 80%+ of the regulars in this thread would have known was bad or wrong when it was first given. We wouldn't accept that excuse from our doctor, lawyer, mechanic, accountant, but for some reason we do with Trump? That alone shows he's unfit for the task at hand, which is ultimately my concern with him.































How else do you describe holding a Ball celebrating sodomites, while saying “We are fighting for the gay community, and we are fighting and fighting hard. With the help of many of the people here tonight in recent years, our movement has taken incredible strides, the strides you’ve made here is incredible.” It's not like the gays rented out Mara Lago and Trump happened to be there, he was the star of the show.































How is that not pandering?































The embrace of homosexuality is very much deep state. Destroying gender roles and the family unit is a necessary piece of the globalists' agenda, one they've spent 50+ years forcing on us. It's so successful now that some colleges and universities have a majority of students claiming to be so. America can't fall if the family is strong. And the family can't be strong if its leaders - including Trump - are behind or accepting of an agenda that does anything other than call homosexuality exactly what it is.































I didn't say Trump was deep state, though from how he operated, he might as well be. Almost as bad, he craves the deep state's acceptance and attention, clearly does not recognize them as the enemy they are, and when the fight was presented, he balked. Period. It's comical how some of you bend over backwards to excuse his deep-state appointments and promotions. Many of you are under his spell because of his tough-talking speeches, but when it came to the gov't shutdown over the wall, Trump folded. That the one-world totalitarian train rolled a little slower along the tracks than it is with Biden is no reason to back Trump.































Trump isn't attacked because he's anti-deep state. Trump is attacked because the globalists know that the more dangerous portion of the pro-America movement - patriotic gun enthusiasts, middle-aged hunters, bikers, ex-military, etc - is pro-Trump. They're attacking him to get to those who support him. Has nothing to do with Trump being the man the DS fears, it's about his followers. If it were just Trump they were concerned about, they'd Seth Rich him and be done with it.
 

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To be fair, Judaism is not a race.
I can't speak for Rolly but Desantis being pumped up by the RINO's worries me. I am not a Trump lover either. Just do not trust anyone the establishment backs. To be fair I don't trust Trump either. He is an opportunist who wants nothing more than to stroke his ego as much as he can. I like Trumps' message but his actual actions on many things, leaves a lot to be desired. Even though he did say it is the individuals choice on the jab, I do not like that he willfully promoted it......even though it was an experimental drug that we still do not have sufficient data on.
I am sure that he listened to the “experts”. How could he know that all of this has been in the works for 10 years. Hell the patent for the COVID test was issued in 2015.
 
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