Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!

Master Thread Dance Your Cares Away/Fraggle/Law Abiding Citizens

Master Threads

imprimis

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
10,748
I think he is on his 4th Jab. But by all means recruiting idiot Liberals to go to Ukraine and fight is a good thing. Fuck get them signed up and ship them out.

Many transplants from CA, NY and other liberal meccas have move to Richardson and surrounding cities. Some are bringing their nitwittery with them.
 

America 1st

The best poster on the board! Trumps lover! 🇺🇸
Founder
Joined
Jan 7, 2021
Messages
16,097
It's called hyperbole honey

I offer my opinions in my way with no other expectations

This is a banana republic, a country that has crash landed after a long descent

The legal system is as corrupt if not more corrupt than any other institution. There are pedophiles in the highest of places and you want to debate parking tickets

Apparently, you are the serious one

In terms of individual vs government is this a time of compliance or rebellion? I realize that's an oversimplification but if you ultimately struggle with that one, we don't agree on much of anything

You want to cite bureaucratic regulation and their henchman, some of us believe it's time to cite the Declaration of Independence
Sad that yew haven’t followed thru on this Declaration of Independence schtick yore on. Eye wood enjoy a good laugh.
 

Sgfeer

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
22,625



1648034896049.png
 

imprimis

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
10,748
Very simple the States need to kick the Federal Government out of Public Lands inside each States Border. Remove Federal Control of State Property.
Oil producing states should embargo gas from DC and NY and CA and every other lib domicile.
 

Joe Kings

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 7, 2021
Messages
2,890
Thanks for sew clearly illustrating why interpreting God’s law is subjective. We are all imperfect and apply our bias two it’s interpretation endlessly. I’m knot surprised two sea yew disregard parts of God’s word yew don’t like since that’s what yew dew with the law.

I’ll leaf yew with won Moore thought where The Lord and his priest abort fetuses:
Numbers 5

19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” “ ‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”
You 2 discussing this subject is like 2 retards discussing if a sandwich is retarded.
 

Sgfeer

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
22,625
They're coming for our kids. Using the courts. Using new state laws favoring pedos. Using our schools. Using literature. Why are we allowing this?! When are we going to stand up and fight for the safety of our children?! The devil isn't hiding anymore.

1648039202283.png

I have no idea if this is legitimate or not

1648039264401.png
 

Joe Kings

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 7, 2021
Messages
2,890
Nowhere in there did you discuss the topic at hand. I was against stop light cameras because they are not safe. Not because folks got ticketed for running red lights. Zero issues with that. There isn’t any judgment call there. Stop at the light behind the white line… it isn’t hard.

I applaud your decision to move out of Chicago.
Man I feel you...
 

Joe Kings

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 7, 2021
Messages
2,890
If I question the A team (Paul) why would you use the writings of the B team, directly referencing the epistles of said A team nonetheless, to try and disprove it? Timothy 1 and 2 are part of the Pauline epistles, but unlike Paul, he was not an apostle. He traveled with and learned directly from Paul.

That's like you saying "I am God," me disagreeing, and you having someone say "He told me he was God" as your proof.
Sandwich
 

Hoosier in Mad Town

Moderator
Moderator
Founder
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
1,367
Ah crap, you're right. I'd edit it but I'll own my stupidity. St. Timothy did travel with Paul, but Timothy 1 and 2 were letters from Paul to Timothy (or at least allegedly were - some scholars believe those letters were falsely attributed to Paul). My larger point still stands.

Paul's teachings are not always congruent with Christ's teachings, although I think he had the best intentions. He's merely a man, just as were the other apostles. Christ NEVER said to obey man's law. He did say " render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" but to interpret that as meaning we should always obey man's law since God set up rulers directly ignores The very next thing He said.

Here's an interesting article and interpretation:


Paul was a pious man, but nonetheless, a man. Earlier, I said I largely disregard Paul's epistles. That was a misstatement. I don't disregard them, but I also do not believe they're canonical or infallible. There were MANY other books considered at the Council of Nicea which are not included in the Bible, and still others in the Catholic Bible which are omitted from the KJE and other later editions.
My friend, this is a difficult subject. One I have wrestled with for years.

The commentary linked ignored the most important part of Jesus' message when addressing Matthew 22:21 "render to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." The main distinction Jesus is drawing here is that Caesar is material (temporal). The world, our possession, our bodies, are all temporary. They breakdown, fade, die and turn to dust. The Spiritual is eternal. Jesus is drawing that distinct difference. Give the temporary (ultimately of no value) to those rule here (within specific limits) and give your soul (eternal with tremendous value) to God. We must first recognize the difference in our worldly possession and see them as worthless compared to our eternal gift of salvation found only in Jesus Christ. Jesus reiterates this with his message in Matthew 19:21 when talking to the young rich man (likely Mark, the author of the Gospel of Mark), to sell all of his possessions and follow him.

The specific limits of government are that while they are indeed placed in their position under the providence of God, they do not have the authority to ask you to sin. Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abendigo are the perfect illustration here. They were asked to not worship God. They appropriately viewed that as a sin, defied that authority, and were persecuted. Through that persecution, God revealed his ultimate power in both the lion's den and fiery furnace, and used those events to bring more people to faith.

In Romans 13, first let's address the context. Romans was written to the followers of Jesus, known as The Way (the term Christian wasn't coined for many decades later) in the city of Rome. Rome was ruled by Caesar and had a pagan worldview. At this time, and really throughout much of history, the reason wars and conquering occurred was due to this fundamental worldview difference. One nation, who believed X, conquered another nation, who believed Y, and wanted to force their worldview on said conquered nation. Rinse and repeat. Paul understood this dynamic as he was very well educated and a Roman citizen, and he also understood that a rapidly growing church (The Way) was viewed as a potential threat to Caesar. He also knew his letter was likely to fall into Caesar's hand. In that event, it's reasonable to expect that Paul was writing first to the church in Rome with an undertone written to Caesar himself.

Through that lens, we see Paul giving direct guidance to the church in Rome to obey their authorities. The Way is not a political movement, it was much greater, superceding that concept. In essence, we are to be good citizens, not a threat to established governments. We, as followers of Jesus, are to respect our authorities, even if they don't follow Jesus. There are a lot of reasons for this, from the ability to evangelize the lost, which requires us to go to places where the name of Jesus is not worshiped as king, to the ability for God to demonstrate his power over man & government in spectacular ways (i..e. Daniel, Paul in the Roman prison during the earthquake, etc....)

Through that lens we should view the rest of Romans 13. Those authorities do not have the right to ask anyone to sin. Paying taxes does not directly equate to theft. Jesus told a young, rich Mark to sell all his possessions, give them to the poor, and follow Jesus. By his own words, Christ didn't much value worldly possessions. Taxes are simply God's provision to do with what he wants via us a intermediaries. Paul reiterates that in Romans 13. Now if the government is using those dollars to commit sins, and we have 100% proof of that occurring, the discussion gets more complicated. Additionally, God has demonstrated his ability to use very flawed men & leaders throughout history, both Jews (Abraham, Noah, King David, King Solomon, Paul, Peter, etc...) and Gentiles (Pharaoh, King Nebuchadenazarr, King Cyrus, etc...) to bring people to himself, God still does that via persecution. In persecution is where the church thrives and grows. In (worldly) peaceful times, it gets stagnant. That is a theme throughout the Bible.

This is a complicated subject. In my opinion, it's a tangible representative of what God was directing us to do for our own good in Genesis. Don't eat that apple, because you won't be able to comprehend the complexities of God's creation and man. No one can because we aren't God. It was that lack of faith demonstrated by Adam and Eve that led to sin entering the world. The good news is we don't have try and understand it all. All we have to understand is that Jesus came, as God promised, to die a death he did not deserve, to pay the wages of my sin, your sin, and everyone's sin on the cross where God's righteous wrath was poured on. But he conquered death itself by rising from the dead 3 days later. All who repent of their sin and follow Jesus as Lord and Savior will have eternal life.

A gift we don't deserve. A gift we could never earn.
 

Hoosier in Mad Town

Moderator
Moderator
Founder
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
1,367
Not referring to Enoch, but there’s other books on healing and meditation that are not included. Maybe it’s hard to accept there’s more similarities to other religions, or your ego?
Why isn’t there any books written from the feminine perspective?
I am sure you will have some rebuttal, but even if these books don’t a belong I would challenge you to open your mind there are other approaches that don’t conflict with your beliefs.
Go to around 10:34 of this video.

Again, those books don't follow the most basic fundamentals of scripture: they contradict the OT and NT, and they weren't written in the language of the time period. For instance, scripture in the OT all had to be validated in the original Hebrew. Any scripture posing as prior to Jesus Christ, that wasn't written in Hebrew, was not consistent with the rest of scripture.

Have you read the book of Ruth. It's about God's ability to restore the Jews via the Gentiles. It's totally about a woman's perspective and faithfulness.

That doesn't mean healing doesn't occur today. In fact, it's very common for Hindu background-believers (HBB's) to experience miraculous healing as part of God's plan to reveal himself. It's a very poor group of people who suffer with basic life necessities such as food & water. As a result, they suffer illness frequently. My brothers and sisters in India often heal in the name of Jesus and entire villages come to faith. This is happening today.

Muslim background believers, (MBBs) by contrast, often receive a vision of God or Jesus that is often so compelling they cannot deny Him. Given the context and background of consequences for Muslims leaving Islam and having their families reject them or even face death, God moves in a miraculous way. This is very common both in the Middle East and more and more occurring here domestically. Ironically, we are seeing more and more people leave long-term (20+ year) homosexual relationships because God reveals himself in a dream/vision. The same type of cultural persecution (outcast from community, viewed as a traitor) occurs in the homosexual community and God cuts right through all of that.

Opening up your mind isn't the answer We are all limited in our ability to fully grasp our world and will run into that barrier at some point..

Applying discernment is the answer.

That discernment comes through the Word of God.
 

BamaRidger

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
15,350
Special Counsel John Durham is producing a large number of classified materials in the case surrounding the source of the phony Steele dossier.

Durham said, ” the government will produce a large volume of classified discovery this week.”


 

MortgageHorn

Your Favorite Loan Officer
Founder
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
27,241
FOfSdDhXoAQD0Sy
 

Sgfeer

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
22,625

imprimis

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
10,748
Special Counsel John Durham is producing a large number of classified materials in the case surrounding the source of the phony Steele dossier.

Durham said, ” the government will produce a large volume of classified discovery this week.”


The cynic in me wants to know if the public will ever see the evidence or will this stuff get buried like most every other investigation?
 

ETNVol

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
4,205
They will find out hes in Israel and Russia attacks Israel and then it is on. Israel is giving up its birth right with this person in office there. Benji was the last

Israel is the only country that will survive everything that is going to happen. They might suffer temporary setbacks here or there, but when Russia attacks them, that will be the end of Russia and her allies. Their birth right is secure no matter what they do.

Most Americans do not understand or do not accept scripture. It says through Israel all nations will be blessed, not through the UN, the EU, or the United States. That was undoubtedly a look forward to Christ, but also looked to the promise in Genesis 12. We need Israel, they do not need us, in spite of what our inflated ego tells us. God made an unconditional promise to Abraham about 4,000 years ago, and put no expiration date on it. Intentionally or not, Truman, Nixon, Trump, a few others reaped the blessings of that promise, while Carter, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now Biden, defied it.
 

Pineapple

Legendary
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
3,186
The Council of Nicea did not decide what was or wasn't scripture. That's a myth. Other than the book of Revelation, it was generally agreed what was and wasn't scripture by the end of the 1st century. These missing books that some ITT have lamented being taken from scripture are not some mysterious word from God that the Catholic church or someone else hid from us. They were removed because the failed the most basic test of scripture, they contradict the rest of scripture. Most famously, the book of Enoch, for all it's interesting topics, would never have been considered scripture, because in numerous places it differs from both the Old & New Testaments.

The Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit. It's the word of God. "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” The man who wrote the article you reference is a heretic, or more likely an apostate. Peter said the above about the bible, yet this man, whoever he is, says it's "men’s words about God", an absurdity. The words of the bible themselves don't give us that option: either the bible is the word of God, or it's man-made foolishness.

The Bible has authenticated itself over the last 2000-4000 or so years. God didn't give men a vision of what to do, what to tell Israel, or what was coming in the future, then leave it up to men to write it down appropriately (or not). He led them in the writing (a fact verified many places in scripture; for example, when Christ prayed in the Garden while his disciples slept, the only one who could have known what happened the entire time was Jesus himself).

The Bible is sacred and inerrant. Numerous times Christ's actions were described as being done "that the scripture might be fulfilled". That alone destroys the notion that these are "men's words". It was given by inspiration, so it doesn't contradict the fact that Jesus is the "word", it verifies that it's one with him. Perhaps the strongest word on the issue of the source of scripture came from the words of Jesus himself. He said "the scripture cannot be broken", "scripture" being translated from the Greek word for "document".
1648045296687.gif
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom