TFSF Golf Thread

[ChicagoFats]

PGA drops two stroke penalty on Cam this morning before last round at Fed Ex cup and possibly last round as PGA member.

 

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[ChicagoFats]

Its absurd, but golfers declare penalties against themselves in absurd situations. Its part of why its a gentlemans game. Cam also admits his ball was touching the line even when the is sounds like the PGA tried to give him an out.

So, while ridiculous, I don't think the PGA is in the wrong. As a player it is your duty to know the rules.

 

[BurntJ]

I don't know. Scheffler said it was unintentional and he and Smith were high-fiving each other during their rounds.

Mickelson was the cornerstone. He gave it legitimacy. If he doesn't go, all those other guys might not have been able to step out on their own. One guy did, Phil Mickelson. If LIV becomes big time, Mickelson will be remembered with Norman as the guys who made it work.

True with Michelson…..he was about giving legitimacy and getting it launched! Cam Smith will cause the rumble though. Losing young champions and potentially the worlds top player and player of the year will cause issues.

The circus is going to get ridiculous as Cam won’t announce or start LIV to after FedEx it appears. Which means POY and #1 are possible.

 

[BurntJ]

PGA drops two stroke penalty on Cam this morning before last round at Fed Ex cup and possibly last round as PGA member.

If you listen to them…..they are trying for a gotcha moment with Cam. What were his feelings? What were his reactions? Just ask him…..they sure have no problem asking him about LIV win he wins the British Open….but now they are hoping 3rd party will say he acted out.

 

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[denn]

so it appears Tiger and a bunch of highly ranked players are meetimg
Soon to discuss how to make the PGA tour better. It is amazing what a little competition will do you motivate players and entities like the tour to make a change. Forever the tours have been super beneficial to the top ranked guys and the lesser players were left to sort of fend for themselves. The LIV has opened eyes to all of the players and whether those like Tiger wants to admit it or not, they are forcing the tours to be more equitable. God bless Phil Mickelson and his efforts to make golfs governing bodies wake up and realize that they will lose many top players and in turn deplete a good product if they do not start focusing on those that aren’t just top 25 players. Finchem needs to explain why such a small percentage of the revenue generated actually goes to prize money. JMO

 

[BurntJ]

so it appears Tiger and a bunch of highly ranked players are meetimg
Soon to discuss how to make the PGA tour better. It is amazing what a little competition will do you motivate players and entities like the tour to make a change. Forever the tours have been super beneficial to the top ranked guys and the lesser players were left to sort of fend for themselves. The LIV has opened eyes to all of the players and whether those like Tiger wants to admit it or not, they are forcing the tours to be more equitable. God bless Phil Mickelson and his efforts to make golfs governing bodies wake up and realize that they will lose many top players and in turn deplete a good product if they do not start focusing on those that aren’t just top 25 players. Finchem needs to explain why such a small percentage of the revenue generated actually goes to prize money. JMO

Anyone that thinks this isn't tied to Cam Smith and the ripples its gonna cause has their head in the sand.

It being reported most of the players in the meeting will be World Top 20 in the meeting. Which would actually make the case the PGA is doing what they always do. Letting the rich top 1% make the rules.

 

[LVRebel]

Anyone that thinks this isn't tied to Cam Smith and the ripples its gonna cause has their head in the sand.

It being reported most of the players in the meeting will be World Top 20 in the meeting. Which would actually make the case the PGA is doing what they always do. Letting the rich top 1% make the rules.

I wonder if any of the current PGA sponsors will start jumping off the ship like so many of the players have. After all, if you lose viewers, they lose returns on their investments.

 

[BurntJ]

I wonder if any of the current PGA sponsors will start jumping off the ship like so many of the players have. After all, if you lose viewers, they lose returns on their investments.

That will be the next phase For LIV to survive.

1st step is accruing all the talent possible. (phase 1 was Phil, Phase 2 was other players, Phase 3 is the big one though. Landing Cam or the #1 player in the World and PGA player of the year. ((potentially))

2nd was expanding the tour and getting media - i believe they will have 13-14 next year and are working on a TV deal.

3rd will be the movement of sponsors (which hopefully wont have to actually happens. As the lawsuits could make them all independents and therefore Sponsors dont have to worry about specific Tours.)

 

[denn]

Anyone that thinks this isn't tied to Cam Smith and the ripples its gonna cause has their head in the sand.

It being reported most of the players in the meeting will be World Top 20 in the meeting. Which would actually make the case the PGA is doing what they always do. Letting the rich top 1% make the rules.

1000%. Well said

 

[denn]

I wonder if any of the current PGA sponsors will start jumping off the ship like so many of the players have. After all, if you lose viewers, they lose returns on their investments.

I am sure they are taking a wait and see approach. If the tour continues to have its head up its own ass, I think some will.

 

[imprimis]

A good starting point would be for the PGA Tour Chairman Monahan giving back some of his salary as an act of good faith.

 

[BurntJ]

A good starting point would be for the PGA Tour Chairman Monahan giving back some of his salary as an act of good faith.

It’s gonna take opening the fuckin books up. Just publicly reported is the 680 million per year new tv contract. And…

$428.6 million in prize money in official events and Because of LIV ADDED another $145 million in bonuses , including $75 million for the FedEx Cup

So originally it was 680-428=252 million. Without any gates/tix, merch, anything else. WTF where all that money going?

 

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[LVRebel]

Thats some golf attire I could get behind

 

[ChicagoFats]

It’s gonna take opening the fuckin books up. Just publicly reported is the 680 million per year new tv contract. And…

$428.6 million in prize money in official events and Because of LIV ADDED another $145 million in bonuses , including $75 million for the FedEx Cup

So originally it was 680-428=252 million. Without any gates/tix, merch, anything else. WTF where all that money going?

I have heard that the PGA retirement package is ridiculous. Something like average golfers get millions per year in retirement. It was just hearsay but I’ll look for some concrete numbers

 

[denn]

I have heard that the PGA retirement package is ridiculous. Something like average golfers get millions per year in retirement. It was just hearsay but I’ll look for some concrete numbers

Depends on your stature. The retirement is pretty good though for almost everyone who has been out there for a while. I can’t take that away from the tour

 

[BurntJ]

I have heard that the PGA retirement package is ridiculous. Something like average golfers get millions per year in retirement. It was just hearsay but I’ll look for some concrete numbers

Interesting. I haven’t heard much about that. I will say until the last year, I really had almost no clue how the PGA was run or did their business. I’m actually disgusted, that an American business would act this way.

 

[BurntJ]

Alright you Degenerates……

I need your help……

As per usual, I will be at East Lake this weekend and was hoping someone could point me in the direction of some quality golf wear so I can properly represent the LIV tour.

I’m thinking hat and shirt…….but open to any awesome surprises. Needs to be I. Stock to NDA! I was hoping to wear this on Sunday as “My Championship Attire.”

(It will be uncomfortable enough as I’m met JM a couple years ago as buddies parent is PGA exec and we will be with that group. )

 

[BurntJ]

Seriously help me find some quality LIV gear. I assume it will be top notch like the plane(s) and everything else.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Cam Smith joins LIV is official

Cameron Smith, Joaquin Niemann join LIV Golf as PGA's rival tour lands biggest acquisitions to date

LIV Golf has harpooned its biggest whales yet in its quest to become a true world tour

www.cbssports.com

 

[denn]

Cam Smith joins LIV is official

Cameron Smith, Joaquin Niemann join LIV Golf as PGA's rival tour lands biggest acquisitions to date

LIV Golf has harpooned its biggest whales yet in its quest to become a true world tour

www.cbssports.com

So happy that they are making the pga tour sweat.

 

[ChicagoFats]

So happy that they are making the phone tour sweat.

Don’t you think the PGA will have to relent and let players play on both tours?

Seems like too many players are leaving to keep them out.

 

[denn]

Don’t you think the PGA will have to relent and let players play on both tours?

Seems like too many players are leaving to keep them out.

I think the pga tours ego is so large they would never do that. No chance IMO. They have always been so arrogant over the years that they actually think their shit doesn’t stink. I think the R&A would consider it though. They can’t afford to lose more talent to other tours. The LIV is a real threat and it will only increase as the tour raises purses for....only the upper echelon players. Rory and Tiger can have all the players only meetings they want and can trash their peers for making a better living for themselves all they want....The LIV is not going anywhere.

 

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[Mr.Fitzwell]

Really strong Norwegian genes, that kid...

 

[ChicagoFats]

I can't wait to see how good will be. I imagine the pressure will be enormous but i think it would be pretty awesome if he could win a few majors.

 

[Mr.Fitzwell]

I can't wait to see how good will be. I imagine the pressure will be enormous but i think it would be pretty awesome if he could win a few majors.

Lmfaooooo have you SEEN the pussies in his peer group? Pussies being raised by pussies! He will DOMINATE

 

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[BurntJ]

Maybe he should go back to steroids…..

We was a much better player back then!

 

[denn]

Maybe he should go back to steroids…..

We was a much better player back then!

He was also a lot healthier and getting strange all over the place. It was a great run for Tiger! Now with his stance on he LIV, which has caused me to lose a bit of respect for him, I just hope he fades off into the distance. Play your ceremonial tournaments every year, but just shut up. I say this as Tiger is one of my all time sporting hero's. Just don't need someone who has 100's of millions in endorsement contracts telling his peers that they shouldn't try and make the most $$$ they can out of their careers. It is a dick move IMO. If he was not at the stature he is in the game, his ass would be taking advantage of (at least contemplating it) that Saudi money. Rory needs to pipe down as well.

 

[BurntJ]

He was also a lot healthier and getting strange all over the place. It was a great run for Tiger! Now with his stance on he LIV, which has caused me to lose a bit of respect for him, I just hope he fades off into the distance. Play your ceremonial tournaments every year, but just shut up. I say this as Tiger is one of my all time sporting hero's. Just don't need someone who has 100's of millions in endorsement contracts telling his peers that they shouldn't try and make the most $$$ they can out of their careers. It is a dick move IMO. If he was not at the stature he is in the game, his ass would be taking advantage of (at least contemplating it) that Saudi money. Rory needs to pipe down as well.

Totally agree with all of this....

Did you see Tiger get caught lying about the PGA taking a loan to survive COVID year...
He is literally destroying his legacy before our eyes!!!

 

[Oler Ted]

COO of LIV golf resigns. What’s the story?

 

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