Quote from Benjamin Franklin

[Cre8ive]

"Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom - and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech."- Benjamin Franklin

 

[Rebarcock.]

He is one of my favorite Founders. But he was also loosey goosey w the ladies

 

[Sgfeer]

He is one of my favorite Founders. But he was also loosey goosey w the ladies

He should get bonus points for that

 

[Renegadenole]

The GOAT -

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

 

[Renegadenole]

He should get bonus points for that

Would have been a blast to hang out and have some deep discussions at times. Especially when the sap of the poppy was hitting.

 

[Cre8ive]

Rebarcock is right about Benjamin being a ladies man. He was as horny as he was smart!

 

[skramer100]

Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Ole Ben

 

[Rebarcock.]

He should get bonus points for that

Yeah he was a giant pervert if you dig deep enough in books. It has been 30yrs since i read about it and don't recall details.

 

[spf84]

He is one of my favorite Founders. But he was also loosey goosey w the ladies

Sorry for partying.

 

[America 1st]

Yeah he was a giant pervert if you dig deep enough in books. It has been 30yrs since i read about it and don't recall details.

 

[America 1st]

The GOAT -

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

The irony is how inaccurately that quote is used.

Most people have no clue Ben was actually arguing for increased taxation and defense spending in the name of public security. The context and history of this quote is essentially the opposite of how people frame it today.

Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century

He once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." That quote often comes up in the context of new technology.

www.npr.org

How The World Butchered Benjamin Franklin's Quote On Liberty Vs. Security | TechCrunch

One of America's favorite liberal phrases has been sent through the political spin machine and polished into a Frankenstein of sorts, thus rendering it

techcrunch.com

 

[TJHall1]

I'd like to see pics of the chicks he was banging.

 

[Rebarcock.]

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Dude you are a fucked up cookie. Dont get me wrong i love it.

 

[Spaceweazle]

He loved to party but there is no hard evidence he actually cheated on his wife. He also didn't really drink.

He did have a few kids to different women, but that was prior to marriage.

 

[Renegadenole]

The irony is how inaccurately that quote is used.

Most people have no clue Ben was actually arguing for increased taxation and defense spending in the name of public security. The context and history of this quote is essentially the opposite of how people frame it today.

Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century

He once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." That quote often comes up in the context of new technology.

www.npr.org

How The World Butchered Benjamin Franklin's Quote On Liberty Vs. Security | TechCrunch

One of America's favorite liberal phrases has been sent through the political spin machine and polished into a Frankenstein of sorts, thus rendering it

techcrunch.com

I don't see it as opposite. The fact is BF was making the proclamation that any liberty given up for safety is in error. It is the text itself. It doesn't matter what liberty and which safety.

NPR and the Brookings Institute can get as literal and scholarly as they like. The people know what the saying is meant to deliver in today's world and it's not just about cell phones as the liberals like to twist it to mean. People have been using the saying long before cell phones.

 

[America 1st]

I don't see it as opposite. The fact is BF was making the proclamation that any liberty given up for safety is in error. It is the text itself. It doesn't matter what liberty and which safety.

NPR and the Brookings Institute can get as literal and scholarly as they like. The people know what the saying is meant to deliver in today's world and it's not just about cell phones as the liberals like to twist it to mean. People have been using the saying long before cell phones.

He was arguing that state legislatures have the right to tax people to expand the military for the security of the general population.

You can believe and interpret it to mean whatever you want but the Founders believed strongly in the government's responsibility to protect it's citizens (they were classical liberals after all).

 

[Renegadenole]

He was arguing that state legislatures have the right to tax people to expand the military for the security of the general population.

You can believe and interpret it to mean whatever you want but the Founders believed strongly in the government's responsibility to protect it's citizens (they were classical liberals after all).

Yep, not debating that and it's known that the government has the right to tax citizens to fund the military but, it doesn't exclude the contemporary use of the quote. The point is still that a liberty should not be traded for security. Many historians (not all, never on anything) would agree that BF would approve the common use of the quote today (freedom is more important than security). BF put his life on the line for just such a thing. Most famous quotes take on a life of their own.

 

[America 1st]

Yep, not debating that and it's known that the government has the right to tax citizens to fund the military but, it doesn't exclude the contemporary use of the quote. The point is still that a liberty should not be traded for security. Many historians (not all, never on anything) would agree that BF would approve the common use of the quote today (freedom is more important than security). BF put his life on the line for just such a thing. Most famous quotes take on a life of their own.

Agreed.

 

[OPD77]

Ben...a true founding cocksman !

 

[Rooney]

Franklin was a Freemason

 

[ajcgn]

Benjamins still make the best wing man.

 

[Zgdaf]

"Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom - and no such thing as public liberty without freedom of speech."- Benjamin Franklin

You will still be compelled to use one of the 18 pronouns the alphabet group decides upon, and off with your head if you pick the wrong one.

 

[Cre8ive]

Benjamins still make the best wing man.
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What a sweet sight that is! Especially if you're counting your winnings in Vegas!

 

[Rebarcock.]

He should get bonus points for that

Ol Boy banged em all.
He got his points already