Nazis, Operation Paperclip and MK Ultra

[PleasureMoose]

This is kind of where I am, but if I can’t outright dispute it I’m willing to believe it’s possible (but this is speculation and not fact and needs to be separated as so)

Examples:
-I can personally verify through physics that the flat Earth theory is bullshit

-But I’m willing to speculate that the Egyptians advanced their civilization so quickly because they learned from the Atlanteans

the flat earth society is a psyop that shit is retarded...there's a reason why all these celebrities shill for it

 

[TJHall1]

Me rightnow:
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I actually watched that segment a few days ago. I laughed my ass off.

 

[PleasureMoose]

This is kind of where I am, but if I can’t outright dispute it I’m willing to believe it’s possible (but this is speculation and not fact and needs to be separated as so)

Examples:
-I can personally verify through physics that the flat Earth theory is bullshit

-But I’m willing to speculate that the Egyptians advanced their civilization so quickly because they learned from the Atlanteans

I guess why point was its good to question things even if you don't believe in it. Like if someone is willing to listen to my view on aliens.. I'll listen to them explain how space is fake

 

[PleasureMoose]

I actually watched that segment a few days ago. I laughed my ass off.

I find it hilarious that Twitter, Facebook, Apple and every other major platform banned him...that shit only helps his case

 

[TJHall1]

I find it hilarious that Twitter, Facebook, Apple and every other major platform banned him...that shit only helps his case

Its fucking ridiculous. And so many will people will say it's because of misinformation.

Fucking idiots.

 

[shiv]

I guess why point was its good to question things even if you don't believe in it. Like if someone is willing to listen to my view on aliens.. I'll listen to them explain how space is fake

Yeah I like to question everything. To the point that I don’t even think reality is real. Having a hard time articulating where I stand. I guess I keep my insanity separate from things that are practical. It’s like having to keep those world separate

 

[shiv]

I guess why point was its good to question things even if you don't believe in it. Like if someone is willing to listen to my view on aliens.. I'll listen to them explain how space is fake

I think what I’m trying to say is that you can be skeptical in the extreme, but also open minded in the extreme as well.

 

[TJHall1]

 

[FreeMiner]

Some may enjoy this book by Frank Stebbens.

The Lost Americans : Frank C. Hibben : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Book Source: Digital Library of India Item 2015.86091dc.contributor.author: Frank C. Hibbendc.date.accessioned: 2015-06-30T19:51:38Zdc.date.available:...

archive.org

 

[TJHall1]

Oh yeah you know your stuff. the Nazi occult and the Vril Society is super interesting to me. The Vril was said to be in contact with interdimensional aliens and would recruit the top physics and scientists from all over the world and send them thru a magnetic gate to gather as much information as they could and then they would translate and cypher the codes...

So i was reading back thru this thread and this caught my eye. Why is the vril, an advanced civilization that controls us, using simple minded scientists from our world to collect and decode information for them? Wouldnt they be better off using their own advanced and smarter minds to do it?

 

[PleasureMoose]

So i was reading back thru this thread and this caught my eye. Why is the vril, an advanced civilization that controls us, using simple minded scientists from our world to collect and decode information for them? Wouldnt they be better off using their own advanced and smarter minds to do it?

I'm sure they did that too idk use your imagination

 

[Rube Reaper]

Ok, but army bases and the such on a desert continent is just a bit different than a subterranean world run by angels or aliens with giant animals wandering in and out of the portals.

I don't think as many people as you claim are surprised about pedo islands or strategic bases in strange areas.

True.

Republicans have been planting pedo islands and bases all over the world for decades. It can’t even be disputed.

Ya i dunno about that. Like i said, there's a big difference between a pedo island that there's always been evidence to support, and believing that aliens are running earth.

This.

One is indisputable and the other is a conspiracy cooked up by white nationalists to justify ridiculous guns and possessing them.

You have to remain skeptical of all this stuff, if not you start buying everything that’s out there. A lot of junk gets thrown in to obscure some of the reality.

Anyway great thread, look forward to more.

Yup.

If people don’t keep their heads on straight they end up believing anything and turn out anti-vaccine.

 

[TJHall1]

I'm sure they did that too idk use your imagination

Haha im just trying to understand. This has got my attention the last couple days and I've been looking into the feasibility a lot.

 

[PleasureMoose]

Haha im just trying to understand. This has got my attention the last couple days and I've been looking into the feasibility a lot.

They send the smartest humans on the planet to decode messages to translate back to humans

 

[TJHall1]

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They send the smartest humans on the planet to decode messages to translate back to humans

Ok. You said the vril exists, so since you're so sure i thought you might have some answers.

 

[PleasureMoose]

Ok. You said the vril exists, so since you're so sure i thought you might have some answers.

I'm not sure of shit... I just posted my interpretation from the conspiracy theory of the Nazi Occult & Vril. Just thought it was interesting.

It all started from a book published in 1870 called the Coming Race. Later a bunch or conspiracy theories stemmed from it.. All I did was throw random shit against the wall.. Please figure it out for all of us

Maybe this will help you on your journey... Might want to start with The Coming Race then head over to The Thule Society it you want to dive deep

took me 5mins to find these:

Vril Society, and its sister Thule Society, which believed that the origins of the Aryan race were in the northern land of Hyperborea or Thule, initiated a program in the 1920s to create flying saucer technology based on that used by the underground races. He claims that the first device built using vril-based technology was completed in 1922. Not an aircraft, it was what he calls an inter-dimensional flight machine. (http://laesieworks.com) Terry Melanson goes into even greater detail in describing the history of vril in Nazi Germany in his 'The Vril Society, the Luminous Lodge and the Realization of the Great Work' (www. conspiracyarchive.com). Melanson claims that the Vril Society combined the political ideals of the Order of the Illuminati with Hindu mysticism, Theosophy and the Cabbala. It was the first German nationalist group to use the symbol of the swastika as an emblem linking Eastern and Western occultism. The Vril Society presented the idea of a subterranean matriarchal, socialist utopia ruled by superior beings who had mastered the mysterious energy called the Vril Force. Melanson reports that the Nazi flying saucer program was made possible by a secret arrangement between the Vril Society and the Vril-ya themselves to share technology


The existence of a Vril Society was alleged in 1960 by Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels.[23] In their book The Morning of the Magicians, they claimed that the Vril-Society was a secret community of occultists in pre-Nazi Berlin that was a sort of inner circle of the Thule Society. They also thought that it was in close contact with the English group known as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. The Vril information takes up about a tenth of the volume, the remainder of which details other esoteric speculations, but the authors fail to clearly explain whether this section is fact or fiction. Historians have shown that there has been no actual historical foundation for the claims of Pauwels and Bergier, and that the article of Willy Ley has only been a vague inspiration for their own ideas. Nevertheless, Pauwels and Bergier have influenced a whole new literary genre dealing with the alleged occult influences on Nazis which have often been related to the fictional Vril Society.[24]

The book of Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels was published in German with the title: Aufbruch ins dritte Jahrtausend: von der Zukunft der phantastischen Vernunft (literally Departure into the Third Millennium: The Future of the Fantastic Reason) in 1969.

In his book Black Sun, Professor Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke refers to the research of the German author Peter Bahn. Bahn writes in his 1996 essay, "Das Geheimnis der Vril-Energie" ("The Secret of Vril Energy"),[26] of his discovery of an obscure esoteric group calling itself the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft", which revealed itself in a rare 1930 publication Vril. Die Kosmische Urkraft (Vril, the cosmic elementary power) written by a member of this Berlin-based group, under the pseudonym "Johannes Täufer" (German: "John [the] Baptist"). Published by the influential astrological publisher, Otto Wilhelm Barth (whom Bahn believes was "Täufer"), the 60-page pamphlet says little of the group other than that it was founded in 1925 to study the uses of Vril energy.[27] The German historian Julian Strube has argued that the historical existence of the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft" can be regarded as irrelevant to the post-war invention of the Vril Society, as Pauwels and Bergier have developed their ideas without any knowledge of that actual association.[28] Strube has also shown that the Vril force has been irrelevant to the other members of the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft," who were supporters of the theories of the Austrian inventor Karl Schappeller (1875–1947).[29]

 

[TJHall1]

I'm not sure of shit... I just posted my interpretation from the conspiracy theory of the Nazi Occult & Vril. Just thought it was interesting.

It all started from a book published in 1870 called the Coming Race. Later a bunch or conspiracy theories stemmed from it.. All I did was throw random shit against the wall.. Please figure it out for all of us

Maybe this will help you on your journey... Might want to start with The Coming Race then head over to The Thule Society it you want to dive deep

took me 5mins to find these:

Vril Society, and its sister Thule Society, which believed that the origins of the Aryan race were in the northern land of Hyperborea or Thule, initiated a program in the 1920s to create flying saucer technology based on that used by the underground races. He claims that the first device built using vril-based technology was completed in 1922. Not an aircraft, it was what he calls an inter-dimensional flight machine. (http://laesieworks.com) Terry Melanson goes into even greater detail in describing the history of vril in Nazi Germany in his 'The Vril Society, the Luminous Lodge and the Realization of the Great Work' (www. conspiracyarchive.com). Melanson claims that the Vril Society combined the political ideals of the Order of the Illuminati with Hindu mysticism, Theosophy and the Cabbala. It was the first German nationalist group to use the symbol of the swastika as an emblem linking Eastern and Western occultism. The Vril Society presented the idea of a subterranean matriarchal, socialist utopia ruled by superior beings who had mastered the mysterious energy called the Vril Force. Melanson reports that the Nazi flying saucer program was made possible by a secret arrangement between the Vril Society and the Vril-ya themselves to share technology


The existence of a Vril Society was alleged in 1960 by Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels.[23] In their book The Morning of the Magicians, they claimed that the Vril-Society was a secret community of occultists in pre-Nazi Berlin that was a sort of inner circle of the Thule Society. They also thought that it was in close contact with the English group known as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. The Vril information takes up about a tenth of the volume, the remainder of which details other esoteric speculations, but the authors fail to clearly explain whether this section is fact or fiction. Historians have shown that there has been no actual historical foundation for the claims of Pauwels and Bergier, and that the article of Willy Ley has only been a vague inspiration for their own ideas. Nevertheless, Pauwels and Bergier have influenced a whole new literary genre dealing with the alleged occult influences on Nazis which have often been related to the fictional Vril Society.[24]

The book of Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels was published in German with the title: Aufbruch ins dritte Jahrtausend: von der Zukunft der phantastischen Vernunft (literally Departure into the Third Millennium: The Future of the Fantastic Reason) in 1969.

In his book Black Sun, Professor Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke refers to the research of the German author Peter Bahn. Bahn writes in his 1996 essay, "Das Geheimnis der Vril-Energie" ("The Secret of Vril Energy"),[26] of his discovery of an obscure esoteric group calling itself the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft", which revealed itself in a rare 1930 publication Vril. Die Kosmische Urkraft (Vril, the cosmic elementary power) written by a member of this Berlin-based group, under the pseudonym "Johannes Täufer" (German: "John [the] Baptist"). Published by the influential astrological publisher, Otto Wilhelm Barth (whom Bahn believes was "Täufer"), the 60-page pamphlet says little of the group other than that it was founded in 1925 to study the uses of Vril energy.[27] The German historian Julian Strube has argued that the historical existence of the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft" can be regarded as irrelevant to the post-war invention of the Vril Society, as Pauwels and Bergier have developed their ideas without any knowledge of that actual association.[28] Strube has also shown that the Vril force has been irrelevant to the other members of the "Reichsarbeitsgemeinschaft," who were supporters of the theories of the Austrian inventor Karl Schappeller (1875–1947).[29]

You said the vril existed so thats all i was going off of. Thought you might have a reason/reasons you thought that.

 

[PleasureMoose]

You said the vril existed so thats all i was going off of. Thought you might have a reason/reasons you thought that.

Why wouldn't the vril exist??..some days I'm certain they do.. I just posted a bunch of reasons on why I could think that

 

[TJHall1]

Why wouldn't the vril exist??..some days I'm certain they do.. I just posted a bunch of reasons on why I could think that
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Because it's a fantasy? Why doesn't bigfoot exist?

 

[PleasureMoose]

Because it's a fantasy? Why doesn't bigfoot exist?

yeah The Coming Race novel is...and? Vril means "life force"

Bigfoot does exist I've seen the picture

 

[TJHall1]

yeah The Coming Race novel is...and? Vril means "life force"

Bigfoot does exist I've seen the picture
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I've tried to find what vril means. I've seen life force. Ive seen that the vril is the hollow earth advanced society. Ive seen that its a secret society in our world being run by the hollow earth civilization. Ive seen life giving elixirs as the definition. There doesnt seem to be a true definition, but each explanation seems as silly as the next. Like harry henderson.

 

[TJHall1]

yeah The Coming Race novel is...and? Vril means "life force"

Bigfoot does exist I've seen the picture
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And that video is something else i dug into for a couple days years ago. I was always intrigued with bigfoot growing up.

 

[GarnetPild]

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They send the smartest humans on the planet to decode messages to translate back to humans

 

[TJHall1]

Exactly

 

[PleasureMoose]

And that video is something else i dug into for a couple days years ago. I was always intrigued with bigfoot growing up.

you seen this movie?

I love the storyline the writers did for bigfoot..

 

[PleasureMoose]

I've tried to find what vril means. I've seen life force. Ive seen that the vril is the hollow earth advanced society. Ive seen that its a secret society in our world being run by the hollow earth civilization. Ive seen life giving elixirs as the definition. There doesnt seem to be a true definition, but each explanation seems as silly as the next. Like harry henderson.

yeah pretty much lol... that's the point i was making earlier in the thread when I compared them to the Nazi occult from the Indiana Jones movies.. since there's no true definition I'm gonna start floating my Raiders of the Lost Ark theory around

 

[TJHall1]

you seen this movie?

I love the storyline the writers did for bigfoot..

That movie is fuckin ridiculous.

 

[PleasureMoose]

That movie is fuckin ridiculous.

I could of swore it was based on a true story... damn

Spoiler: BIGFOOT

BIgfoot is a carrier of a deadly plague that could destroy humanity

 

[TJHall1]

I could of swore it was based on a true story... damn

Spoiler: BIGFOOT

BIgfoot is a carrier of a deadly plague that could destroy humanity

Why Sam Elliot thought that movie was a good Idea is an absolute mind fuck.

 

[Rebarcock.]

I follow you, I love thinking about all this stuff. I just like to make sure I separate speculation versus something I can completely verify. I’m all in on the idea that there has always been an overarching conspiracy, but some of that theory is speculation. And I could just be a retard

I don't have an alien buddy like Elliot either. Everything is explainable. I'm not arrogant. There is more than humans around imo

 

[Rebarcock.]

I could of swore it was based on a true story... damn

Spoiler: BIGFOOT

BIgfoot is a carrier of a deadly plague that could destroy humanity

Story in sc
Are deer giving each other wuflu?
Shjt you not

 

[PleasureMoose]

Anyone heard about the conspiracy that the sinking of the Titanic was an inside job to spawn the Federal Reserve. The company who built the ship was owned by JP Morgan who was a known agent of the Rothchild's.

All of the high ranking millionaires who openly opposed a central banking system were all invited to take part in the voyage . pretty cool video here:

 

[QuanChi]

You might want to have a look in here, much older than PaperClip etc. https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Quigley_Anglo_American_Establishment.pdf

Plus Edward Bernays already had demonstrated the power of mass brainwashing long before the NAZI's in the 1930's.

Well a think a lot of this was prompted by the fact our sun suddenly produced 503 sunspots on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Yah 503 sunspots in one day. President Eisenhower thought maybe the Big Man Upstairs had sent for him.
This was the basis for his creation of NASA. http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/01...2VQ0jRNvagXSefF-2GRs3DD4eWom1_wAbrVFZPD8UHN_U

And yah the Antarctic stuff was end of war adventures but Major White and Hapgood were finding some strange things White was Airforce and had been mapping the Arctic for the USAF, and Hapgood was CIA.

Hapgood Charles Hutchins Maps Of The Ancient Sea Kings : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings

archive.org

Good stuff my friend. Great contributions to the thread

 

[QuanChi]

Some may enjoy this book by Frank Stebbens.

The Lost Americans : Frank C. Hibben : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Book Source: Digital Library of India Item 2015.86091dc.contributor.author: Frank C. Hibbendc.date.accessioned: 2015-06-30T19:51:38Zdc.date.available:...

archive.org

You are an absolute chad my friend - keep coming back. @PleasureMoose and @Rebarcock. as well

 

[QuanChi]

I've been seeing this everywhere from ancient tests to new age now. Interesting stuff. I haven't had time to read enough but I will research from khabblah to present. Seems like there could be something to it

It’s Jewish mysticism and provides a representation of how God manifested himself in reality. I haven’t completely decided how I feel about it, because some of this stuff (New Age specifically) borders in Satanism

 

[QuanChi]

But if you dig in you can find other open source. Pics of all kinda shit. Look up art of the podesta Brothers. Sculptures of how they did shit to people.

The satanic cult Is putting up sculptures all over. Look up satanic/illuminati symbolism and you will start noticing it everywhere.
Burning of the owl at bohemian Grove is a sacrifice to moloch

I get where you are coming from, but show me a DIRECT connection to guilt

Speaking of Podesta art, here is a representation of the Ancient of Ancients. Notice the figure in the circle at the bottom


Sitting between the pillars at the front of Solomons temple: Jachin and Boaz, surrounded by the four cardinal members of the zodiac. The angel at the top is holding up the Hebrew letter Yod.

 

[QuanChi]

A Paperclip just flew over my house

 

[QuanChi]

 

[Uncle Muscles]

You might notice another connection to Crowley in another thread…

NASAs Jet Propulsion Lab and Chaos Magic

https://www.supercluster.com/editorial/the-occult-history-behind-nasas-jet-propulsion-laboratory Why do we just ignore the fact that magicians sent us to space because Aleister Crowley had them eat each other’s shit. Jack Parsons also founded Aerojet: https://www.rocket.com/

www.thefreespeechforum.com

Chaos magic = satanism

 

[QuanChi]

Some may enjoy this book by Frank Stebbens.

The Lost Americans : Frank C. Hibben : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Book Source: Digital Library of India Item 2015.86091dc.contributor.author: Frank C. Hibbendc.date.accessioned: 2015-06-30T19:51:38Zdc.date.available:...

archive.org

Tell me more about this guy and your opinions on him. I read up some. Where does he fit in with the broader scope of the brainwashing of society picture