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Anyone familiar with Manichaeism?



They are a very interesting data point in occultism. Formed a few hundred years after Christianity, but still accepted Jesus, just not as the Son of God.

A couple things that these occult religions, cults and occultism have in common is they explicitly believe in a good and an evil. And the evil is necessary to develop the good. So then it becomes viable for practitioners to do evil things to create an environment for the good to overcome. And similarly, but separately, another critical element they practice is an attempt to shape the future.

In the end it comes down to these groups thinking that they can shape and construct reality - they same thing the snake tempted Adam and Eve with in the Garden - to attempt to become God.
The deep fascist occult actually invented Wifi in the 1930s before they even had the technology.. project paperclip received the blue-prints and sat on them until the 1990s when the tech was available
Tesla also is considered the one who figured out what we call cell phone communications. I don't know as much about that but I've seen bits
 

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It is developed and hidden. Tesla invented free energy and communications 2 way before that. Free energy.
I new a man in the army in Vietnam everyone here would know him. He invented a motor that ran on water. He lived 2 doors down and tutored me at 13. He was about to die and told me. He was a general. The govt still took it. Oil based economy. There are are hidden technologies. They can pull clean water from air in the desert w a special mesh. Enough to fill water towers. But they won't.

When I was 10 I was at an engagement party. I personally heard Strom Thurmond say we wouldn't drill oil till the middle east was depleted. The old philosophies were for dominace later too.

The General was Westmorland. He always liked me. I helped w his yard work too.

My dad was the president if the largest privately owned steel company in the nation. When I was young I thought this was normal. My dad used to sell rebar to Trump

Nice. Was going to guess Westmorland even before I read it. That is a cool story. Hardly a bigger name in SC military history too.
 

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yeah someone could probably sum it up better but the Vril is an advanced breakaway civilization that pits us against each other so that they will always remain in control of the world... We'll likely never know who they are but they do exist. The Vril apparently get their orders on how to control us from another dimension

The Vril Society is a secret society inside a secret society
Ya, i just cant follow this whole idea. Maybe drugs would allow me to be more receptive, but it's fantasy.
 

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Nice. Was going to guess Westmorland even before I read it. That is a cool story. Hardly a bigger name in SC military history too.
Big ol dick but loved me. I made him howl. I lived 2 seconds from fort Jackson. Everymoring of my life I woke up to morning bugle. Teenage years it sucked. I have a bunch of good stories for fort jackson
 

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Didn't the vril have something do w the reptilians?
haven't heard that connection. Has many books that are out about the Vril you'd think we'd know more.. its still a really big secret..

Indiana Jones raiders of the lost ark the Nazi occult convince Hitler to go after the Ark of the Covenant . .. Then you have Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where the Nazis try and steal the Holy Grail but its protected by The Brotherhood of the Cruciform Sword
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This shit traumatized me when the Nazi Priest had his face melted off when he opened the Ark
Those people are who i would compare the Virl too I guess... Also super badass movies
 
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haven't heard that connection. Has many books that are out about the Vril you'd think we'd know more.. its still a really big secret..

Indiana Jones raiders of the lost ark the Nazi occult convince Hitler to go after the Ark of the Covenant . .. Then you have Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where the Nazis try and still the Holy Grail but its protected by The Brotherhood of the Cruciform Sword

Those people are who i would compare the Virl too I guess... Also super badass movies
I know I've read about them. Ill Dig in today for a refresher.
 

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Ya, i just cant follow this whole idea. Maybe drugs would allow me to be more receptive, but it's fantasy.
The Admiral byrd stuff is 100% true. It happened prior to Clowns in America being an agency. Take a couple hours. I'll try to find his original interview from 1946 or 47.
He was the youngest admiral ever. He doesn't bullshit. Also said Antarctica has temperate climate in areas, wooly mammoths and ancient animals we thought were extinct.
 

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Big ol dick but loved me. I made him howl. I lived 2 seconds from fort Jackson. Everymoring of my life I woke up to morning bugle. Teenage years it sucked. I have a bunch of good stories for fort jackson

Only Ft Jackson story I have is having some college friends in the Army and National Guard, so whenever we had parties we'd go buy our kegs there cheap as shit. Around 1999-2000 or so, you could get a keg of natty lite for $40! I think bud lite was only like $50 or so, but we were cheap college students, so natty is was.
 

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Only Ft Jackson story I have is having some college friends in the Army and National Guard, so whenever we had parties we'd go buy our kegs there cheap as shit. Around 1999-2000 or so, you could get a keg of natty lite for $40! I think bud lite was only like $50 or so, but we were cheap college students, so natty is was.
We did too. When I get time ill find the story thread and out them in there. Just kid stuff but some funny stuff too.
Fort Jackson is bigger than richland county
 

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I think I remember hearing about Snowden releasing documents that confirmed Nazi technology was extratextual
There is a lot going on in Antarctica. One theory it was actually Atlantis. Magnetic pole movement happened so quickly everything flash frozen. Similar to Pompeii and the ash sculptures. Hard to find legit info bc of all the bullshit out there. That is why I like the very old documentary stuff from the 40s or so before it was sanitized like now
 

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I had hoped to get some more discussion on this.
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Some actual details behind what all the conspiracy theorists like to Qoom over
I've been seeing this everywhere from ancient tests to new age now. Interesting stuff. I haven't had time to read enough but I will research from khabblah to present. Seems like there could be something to it
 

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Look up admiral byrd hollow eart
I dont think my tinfoil hat is thick enough to keep up with some of this secret civilization talk.

So far in this Antarctica video all they've done is strand a ship, crash a helicopter in the ocean, and use 9 guys to rope a seal.
Yeah I didn't get the good ones. I'll find it later today. It isn't visible of it but an interview w Byrd. Said enough coal to power world for 1000s of years. Any imaginable ore to mine including uranium. I'll find and post later today after work



This is the short version

 

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There is a lot going on in Antarctica. One theory it was actually Atlantis. Magnetic pole movement happened so quickly everything flash frozen. Similar to Pompeii and the ash sculptures. Hard to find legit info bc of all the bullshit out there. That is why I like the very old documentary stuff from the 40s or so before it was sanitized like now
There so much activity going on there...and of course NASA does a ton or research with the ice sheets and hidden lakes (your Atlantis theory) and have a massive Artic base there..

Germany had been going there as early as 1900 to set up whaling stations for whale oil.. then other countries started getting involved and it became this huge ordeal about who laid claim to where.. The Nazis showed up in the late 1930s and built a base on the only ice free area which then sparked the US to launch Operation Highjump
 

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The Admiral byrd stuff is 100% true. It happened prior to Clowns in America being an agency. Take a couple hours. I'll try to find his original interview from 1946 or 47.
He was the youngest admiral ever. He doesn't bullshit. Also said Antarctica has temperate climate in areas, wooly mammoths and ancient animals we thought were extinct.
Operation Highjump
 

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Not in every case but more times than not actual conspiracy theorys eventually become proven... people will still refuse to believe it.. their minds cant handle it. When theorists first started mainlining about there being a Nazi base on Antarctica they were shunned from society and shamed.. I remember years back when word spread about there being a pedo island... you would of been laughed out of the room for even bringing it up


EDIT: i forget who it was but there was one member in the DYAC who said he brought up Epstein and Maxwell to his family at Thanksgiving and they busted his balls about it
 
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Everyone (the great awakening crowd) loves to talk about satanists running the world, but they can’t back it up with facts. I attempt to lay out some kind of timeline/historical connections. I don’t know what the entire story is, but I am aware of some very interesting historical events that are rarely discussed and provide a much more solid foundation for a “global conspiracy”
You might want to have a look in here, much older than PaperClip etc. https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Quigley_Anglo_American_Establishment.pdf

Plus Edward Bernays already had demonstrated the power of mass brainwashing long before the NAZI's in the 1930's.

 

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There are long ones.
Operation high jump
Bird flew a big plane in and met them. Also went and got run out when they attacked in exotic crafts.

Find the 1hr+ ones. You gotta did but they are on yt
Well a think a lot of this was prompted by the fact our sun suddenly produced 503 sunspots on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Yah 503 sunspots in one day. President Eisenhower thought maybe the Big Man Upstairs had sent for him.
This was the basis for his creation of NASA. http://www.thebigwobble.org/2020/01...2VQ0jRNvagXSefF-2GRs3DD4eWom1_wAbrVFZPD8UHN_U

And yah the Antarctic stuff was end of war adventures but Major White and Hapgood were finding some strange things White was Airforce and had been mapping the Arctic for the USAF, and Hapgood was CIA.

 

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The Admiral byrd stuff is 100% true. It happened prior to Clowns in America being an agency. Take a couple hours. I'll try to find his original interview from 1946 or 47.
He was the youngest admiral ever. He doesn't bullshit. Also said Antarctica has temperate climate in areas, wooly mammoths and ancient animals we thought were extinct.
Ya, i watched the video and then read some other stuff. Why do you say he doesn't bullshit? Maybe he's saying all this ridiculous stuff to keep people's minds off what is really going on. This whole mammoths roaming from one world to another is a bit too far fetched.
 

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Look up admiral byrd hollow eart

Yeah I didn't get the good ones. I'll find it later today. It isn't visible of it but an interview w Byrd. Said enough coal to power world for 1000s of years. Any imaginable ore to mine including uranium. I'll find and post later today after work



This is the short version

They talked about the resources in the video i watched. Enough coal for the world for multiple centuries. That's not really a secret tho.
 

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Not in every case but more times than not actual conspiracy theorys eventually become proven... people will still refuse to believe it.. their minds cant handle it. When theorists first started mainlining about there being a Nazi base on Antarctica they were shunned from society and shamed.. I remember years back when word spread about there being a pedo island... you would of been laughed out of the room for even bringing it up


EDIT: i forget who it was but there was one member in the DYAC who said he brought up Epstein and Maxwell to his family at Thanksgiving and they busted his balls about it
Ok, but army bases and the such on a desert continent is just a bit different than a subterranean world run by angels or aliens with giant animals wandering in and out of the portals.

I don't think as many people as you claim are surprised about pedo islands or strategic bases in strange areas.
 

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Ok, but army bases and the such on a desert continent is just a bit different than a subterranean world run by angels or aliens with giant animals wandering in and out of the portals.
I've heard it postulated that the Tolkien novels about fantastic creatures in "Middle Earth" being more closely, somewhat historical, than completely fictional.

I still find it fascinating that in addition to the stories themselves, he created complete languages for all the different races.
 

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I've heard it postulated that the Tolkien novels about fantastic creatures in "Middle Earth" being more closely, somewhat historical, than completely fictional.

I still find it fascinating that in addition to the stories themselves, he created complete languages for all the different races.
Ya, and from what I've read most of this hollow earth talk began with jules verne. Not exactly a strong starting point.
 

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Ok, but army bases and the such on a desert continent is just a bit different than a subterranean world run by angels or aliens with giant animals wandering in and out of the portals.

I don't think as many people as you claim are surprised about pedo islands or strategic bases in strange areas.
I hear ya but all conspiracy theories are the same to a normie. They want absolutely no part in it.. makes them uncomfortable
 

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@Rebarcock. The more i read about richard Byrd the more skeptical i am.
I just downloaded a paper by a guy from the byrd polar research center. In 1927 byrd supposedly flew over the north pole, first flight over the north pole ever. After the fact many people came not saying that his plane wasn't even in the air long enough for the required miles to reach the north pole.
His co-pilot later confessed they didnt reach the north pole because of an oil leak and they just circled out of range of anyone to see them before they returned.
His notepad that he used had calculations erased out showing them over 2 hours from the north pole and replaced with ones showing them at the north pole.
Notes in his note pad did not match up with what he put in his official report.
For some reason he decided not to dump the 100s of flags over the north pole showing that they'd been there.

The guy was obviously a great pilot and leader. My opinion is he was also a very elaborate story teller.
 

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@Rebarcock. The more i read about richard Byrd the more skeptical i am.
I just downloaded a paper by a guy from the byrd polar research center. In 1927 byrd supposedly flew over the north pole, first flight over the north pole ever. After the fact many people came not saying that his plane wasn't even in the air long enough for the required miles to reach the north pole.
His co-pilot later confessed they didnt reach the north pole because of an oil leak and they just circled out of range of anyone to see them before they returned.
His notepad that he used had calculations erased out showing them over 2 hours from the north pole and replaced with ones showing them at the north pole.
Notes in his note pad did not match up with what he put in his official report.
For some reason he decided not to dump the 100s of flags over the north pole showing that they'd been there.

The guy was obviously a great pilot and leader. My opinion is he was also a very elaborate story teller.
You have to remain skeptical of all this stuff, if not you start buying everything that’s out there. A lot of junk gets thrown in to obscure some of the reality.

Anyway great thread, look forward to more.
 

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Ya i dunno about that. Like i said, there's a big difference between a pedo island that there's always been evidence to support, and believing that aliens are running earth.
the whole "Epstein didn't kill himself" is the biggest conspiracy theory out there rightnow...its no different than "Nazis made contact with aliens". Both raise questions against the narrative and gets people thinking... They're both in the same category... If someone is able to open their mind and question a conspiracy they must also be willing to open the mind to see how others can question conspiracies
 

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@Rebarcock. The more i read about richard Byrd the more skeptical i am.
I just downloaded a paper by a guy from the byrd polar research center. In 1927 byrd supposedly flew over the north pole, first flight over the north pole ever. After the fact many people came not saying that his plane wasn't even in the air long enough for the required miles to reach the north pole.
His co-pilot later confessed they didnt reach the north pole because of an oil leak and they just circled out of range of anyone to see them before they returned.
His notepad that he used had calculations erased out showing them over 2 hours from the north pole and replaced with ones showing them at the north pole.
Notes in his note pad did not match up with what he put in his official report.
For some reason he decided not to dump the 100s of flags over the north pole showing that they'd been there.

The guy was obviously a great pilot and leader. My opinion is he was also a very elaborate story teller.
Yeah he was full of shit
 

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the whole "Epstein didn't kill himself" is the biggest conspiracy theory out there rightnow...its no different than "Nazis made contact with aliens". Both raise questions against the narrative and gets people thinking... They're both in the same category... If someone is able to open their mind and question a conspiracy they must also be willing to open the mind to see how others can question conspiracies
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. There's a huge difference between the 2. With epstein, to me, the only ones who think that's going against the narrative is msm and libs. I think a lot of people might not believe the whole he didn't kill himself thing, but they also wouldn't be surprised if he was in Israel raping children.

To me that's a huge difference from aliens and hollow earth. Id say to most people one is feasible and the other is fantasy that people want to run with.

That's just me tho, and I'm a self-certified retard.
 

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Yeah he was full of shit
I'm not saying that haha, but I think he probably exaggerated some stuff. Well, maybe I am saying that a little.

Part of the deal with the north pole flight was that 3 days after his flight there was a scheduled 2nd one that happened and succeeded by another crew. They said if Byrd failed he likely would have ended bankrupting his future endeavors, and also wouldn't have broken that barrier himself.

There's so much shit we don't know about tho.
 

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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. There's a huge difference between the 2. With epstein, to me, the only ones who think that's going against the narrative is msm and libs. I think a lot of people might not believe the whole he didn't kill himself thing, but they also wouldn't be surprised if he was in Israel raping children.

To me that's a huge difference from aliens and hollow earth. Id say to most people one is feasible and the other is fantasy that people want to run with.

That's just me tho, and I'm a self-certified retard.
Me rightnow:
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I believe in ufos. Are they aliens? Who knows? But they are unidentified
I follow you, I love thinking about all this stuff. I just like to make sure I separate speculation versus something I can completely verify. I’m all in on the idea that there has always been an overarching conspiracy, but some of that theory is speculation. And I could just be a retard
 

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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. There's a huge difference between the 2. With epstein, to me, the only ones who think that's going against the narrative is msm and libs. I think a lot of people might not believe the whole he didn't kill himself thing, but they also wouldn't be surprised if he was in Israel raping children.

To me that's a huge difference from aliens and hollow earth. Id say to most people one is feasible and the other is fantasy that people want to run with.

That's just me tho, and I'm a self-certified retard.
This is kind of where I am, but if I can’t outright dispute it I’m willing to believe it’s possible (but this is speculation and not fact and needs to be separated as so)

Examples:
-I can personally verify through physics that the flat Earth theory is bullshit

-But I’m willing to speculate that the Egyptians advanced their civilization so quickly because they learned from the Atlanteans
 
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