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There’s a few that have been creepin in, most are lurkers

I have no problem respectfully talking to a lib or debating the issues with him/her/whatever. But the second they make a personal attack, I’m gonna turn into an even bigger dick than I usually am.

i still don’t think there are any libs on this here board tho
 

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You lost the libs when you mentioned the word FACTS. Kryptonite to them.
Both sides need to come with FACTS, not just feelings.
I'm not opposed to facts, by any means, but is it such a bad thing to also consider feelings? Think about any memory you have, do you actually remember an event or how you felt about that event? It is usually our feelings, good or bad, that leave the largest impression on us. I'm by no means suggesting we should let feelings supersede facts, but I think they deserve a seat at the table. They are not unimportant.
 

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I'm not opposed to facts, by any means, but is it such a bad thing to also consider feelings? Think about any memory you have, do you actually remember an event or how you felt about that event? It is usually our feelings, good or bad, that leave the largest impression on us. I'm by no means suggesting we should let feelings supersede facts, but I think they deserve a seat at the table. They are not unimportant.
And tell me you are a troll without telling me you are a troll. This is Steve Cook worthy.
 

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And tell me you are a troll without telling me you are a troll. This is Steve Cook worthy.
Call me what you will, but I'm serious. Would you go to a funeral and tell the loved ones of the deceased, "Your husband died. Accept that, pussy!" No. You would have tact and present yourself according to the context of the situation... because their feelings would matter to you. I don't feel like I'm the one taking crazy pills here. I'm not saying facts are unimportant. In fact, they should come first, but feelings/emotions shouldn't be tossed to the wayside.

Edit: I don't know who steve cook is
 

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Call me what you will, but I'm serious. Would you go to a funeral and tell the loved ones of the deceased, "Your husband died. Accept that, pussy!" No. You would have tact and present yourself according to the context of the situation... because their feelings would matter to you. I don't feel like I'm the one taking crazy pills here. I'm not saying facts are unimportant. In fact, they should come first, but feelings/emotions shouldn't be tossed to the wayside.

Edit: I don't know who steve cook is
Comparing a funeral to political ideology doesn't make a lot of sense.
 

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Comparing a funeral to political ideology doesn't make a lot of sense.
My point is that while we might not always make decisions based on our feelings, they are still present in everything we do and they can inform our decisions. And that's not always a bad thing.

Also, I forgot to say, thanks @Chris Farley for this thread. it's a cool move.
 

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@GreenNewMe here are some facts worth recognizing:

abortion - planned parenthood has quotas that they need to meet IOT stay open. They are a disgusting organization that encourages late term abortion even AFTER birth and sells dead baby parts.

blm - and no, I’m not going to capitalize that MARXIST shit show, apple! Is exactly that, a marxist organization! You are being lied to. blm seeks to end Christianity, supports destruction of the nuclear family (didn’t you tell me you’re engaged? Want to have kids and raise a family? Well let me tell ya somethin! THEY don’t want you to), is anti-capitalism, and is for total anarchy. It doesn’t care about you! It DEF doesn’t care about black people! It doesn’t care about your welfare! It doesn’t care about “accountability”! The creator of blm, Patrisse Cullors is a multi millionaire who’s only intent is to get richer! Hell, she lives in a home worth 1.4 million!

illlegal immigration - there’s at a minimum 14 MILLION illegals in the country that your hard earned tax dollars go towards. We spend 140 BILLION a year in taxes as a country on illegals....their healthcare, their education, their court and policing fees, their municipal costs...let me say that a little clearer. YOUR money goes to people that shouldn’t even be here in the first place. They account for very high percentages of crime. If you want all the stats, go to my news article I wrote on crootn news about the topic. They are murdering over a 1000 people a year. They are committing rape, torture even!! See MS13...they are changing our culture, dividing us politically, over 800,000 votes for Clinton in 2016 were from illegals. That is not LEGAL!! They open the doors for drug and HUMAN trafficking. Just read my article.

gender identity - mental illness. There’s TWO genders, male and female! That’s IT! And if you’re born a male, you’re a male for life, I don’t care if you want to mutilate yourself and cut your dick and balls off, you’re now just a male with no dick and balls! Nuff said!

socialism - grassroots movement for communism. Khrushchev said it best:


quote-you-americans-are-so-gullible-no-you-won-t-accept-communism-outright-but-we-ll-keep-nikita-khrushchev-60-2-0264.jpg


if you want communism, you are either clueless, ignorant, or just selfish. In that case, go move to Russia or China and GTFO of our great country! We are capitalists here! We support the American dream! Where anyone can make something of themselves with a little hard work! Not the free healthcare, free college, free everything bullshit! First off it’s not fucking free! Where do you think the money comes to pay for that!? Our taxes brother! If you want to live in section 8 project housing then go right ahead and move to the slums. But this here is a democratic REPUBLIC and we ain’t goin nowhere son!

state rights - you want the federal government to have all the power?? You want them to control you under their thumb, every little thing you do?? Move out of the country, because in America we believe in state rights. Each state should have and DOES have the right to govern itself!

2nd amendment - AR doesn’t stand for automatic rifle. It stands for Armolite Rifle, which is a brand. It is also not an “assault rifle” an AK47 that is fully auto is an assault rifle. ARs are semiautomatic which means it only shoots one bullet with each trigger squeeze. The majority of gun violence is done with handguns anyways. Look it up. You ban the guns, criminals are still going to be committing gun violence, drugs are banned and they are still all over the place. There’s lots of things that are banned and still in use. That’s not going to do a got dam thing other than make it where you can’t protect yourself.

1st amendment - your side is trying to censor our side because they know the truth! They know WE know the truth! Well we will not be silenced. Every American citizen has the right to speak freely, the right to free press, and the right to worship how they please! Your side has been abusing this for decades by burning the flag, making threatening statements towards our president and towards the PEOPLE (see recent Maxine waters and lebron james accounts). Listen man, like I told you, this is the FREE SPEECH FORUM, here you can say whatever the fuck you want and not be kicked out like other sites and media. Why? Bc that’s your God given right as an American.

mainstream media - they are all far left and once again have CENSORED anyone that opposes them. They don’t report facts. They report feelings and that is what mostly has your people so fuckjng brainwashed it’s crazy!

and while I’m obvi not speaking to you anymore, I’m speaking to all the real libtards that want to come in here and bring feelings instead of facts.
 
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I'm not opposed to facts, by any means, but is it such a bad thing to also consider feelings? Think about any memory you have, do you actually remember an event or how you felt about that event? It is usually our feelings, good or bad, that leave the largest impression on us. I'm by no means suggesting we should let feelings supersede facts, but I think they deserve a seat at the table. They are not unimportant.
Do I care if I hurt your feelings? Hard no.
 

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@GreenNewMe here are some facts worth recognizing:

abortion - planned parenthood has quotas that they need to meet IOT stay open. They are a disgusting organization that encourages late term abortion even AFTER birth and sells dead baby parts.

blm - and no, I’m not going to capitalize that MARXIST shit show, apple! Is exactly that, a marxist organization! You are being lied to. blm seeks to end Christianity, supports destruction of the nuclear family (didn’t you tell me you’re engaged? Want to have kids and raise a family? Well let me tell ya somethin! THEY don’t want you to), is anti-capitalism, and is for total anarchy. It doesn’t care about you! It DEF doesn’t care about black people! It doesn’t care about your welfare! It doesn’t care about “accountability”! The creator of blm, Patrisse Cullors is a multi millionaire who’s only intent is to get richer! Hell, she lives in a home worth 1.4 million!

illlegal immigration - there’s at a minimum 14 MILLION illegals in the country that your hard earned tax dollars go towards. We spend 140 BILLION a year in taxes as a country on illegals....their healthcare, their education, their court and policing fees, their municipal costs...let me say that a little clearer. YOUR money goes to people that shouldn’t even be here in the first place. They account for very high percentages of crime. If you want all the stats, go to my news article I wrote on crootn news about the topic. They are murdering over a 1000 people a year. They are committing rape, torture even!! See MS13...they are changing our culture, dividing us politically, over 800,000 votes for Clinton in 2016 were from illegals. That is not LEGAL!! They open the doors for drug and HUMAN trafficking. Just read my article.

gender identity - mental illness. There’s TWO genders, male and female! That’s IT! And if you’re born a male, you’re a male for life, I don’t care if you want to mutilate yourself and cut your dick and balls off, you’re now just a male with no dick and balls! Nuff said!

socialism - grassroots movement for communism. Khrushchev said it best:


quote-you-americans-are-so-gullible-no-you-won-t-accept-communism-outright-but-we-ll-keep-nikita-khrushchev-60-2-0264.jpg


if you want communism, you are either clueless, ignorant, or just selfish. In that case, go move to Russia or China and GTFO of our great country! We are capitalists here! We support the American dream! Where anyone can make something of themselves with a little hard work! Not the free healthcare, free college, free everything bullshit! First off it’s not fucking free! Where do you think the money comes to pay for that!? Our taxes brother! If you want to live in section 8 project housing then go right ahead and move to the slums. But this here is a democratic REPUBLIC and we ain’t goin nowhere son!

state rights - you want the federal government to have all the power?? You want them to control you under their thumb, every little thing you do?? Move out of the country, because in America we believe in state rights. Each state should have and DOES have the right to govern itself!

2nd amendment - AR doesn’t stand for automatic rifle. It stands for Armolite Rifle, which is a brand. It is also not an “assault rifle” an AK47 that is fully auto is an assault rifle. ARs are semiautomatic which means it only shoots one bullet with each trigger squeeze. The majority of gun violence is done with handguns anyways. Look it up. You ban the guns, criminals are still going to be committing gun violence, drugs are banned and they are still all over the place. There’s lots of things that are banned and still in use. That’s not going to do a got dam thing other than make it where you can’t protect yourself.

1st amendment - your side is trying to censor our side because they know the truth! They know WE know the truth! Well we will not be silenced. Every American citizen has the right to speak freely, the right to free press, and the right to worship how they please! Your side has been abusing this for decades by burning the flag, making threatening statements towards our president and towards the PEOPLE (see recent Maxine waters and lebron james accounts). Listen man, like I told you, this is the FREE SPEECH FORUM, here you can say whatever the fuck you want and not be kicked out like other sites and media. Why? Bc that’s your God given right as an American.

mainstream media - they are all far left and once again have CENSORED anyone that opposes them. They don’t report facts. They report feelings and that is what mostly has your people so fuckjng brainwashed it’s crazy!
I'll have to read your article. Thanks for all this stuff to consider. I won't reply to it all, but I'll hit a few points.

Abortion: There are lots of women and girls out there whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted child, not to mention the child's life growing up unwanted in bad conditions for someone who can't care for them. Planned Parenthood might not be perfect (who is?) but they provide that service.

As for BLM, sure they aren't a perfect organization either but they are a needed response to systematic racism. If there was a better group doing that work, I'd be happy to support them. I can't just stand by and let people be killed because of the color of their skin.

Socialism: I get that it sounds scary, but look at Canada. They pay taxes and actually get something for it! They get health care, great unemployment support, and a number of other things. They aren't as socialist as they could be, but they are leaps and bounds better off than we are here.

Mainstream media: There's no way you're telling me that Fox News is left leaning?
 

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I'm not opposed to facts, by any means, but is it such a bad thing to also consider feelings? Think about any memory you have, do you actually remember an event or how you felt about that event? It is usually our feelings, good or bad, that leave the largest impression on us. I'm by no means suggesting we should let feelings supersede facts, but I think they deserve a seat at the table. They are not unimportant.

feelings should not matter in public policy.

feelings of course matter in personal affairs
 

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I'll have to read your article. Thanks for all this stuff to consider. I won't reply to it all, but I'll hit a few points.

Abortion: There are lots of women and girls out there whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted child, not to mention the child's life growing up unwanted in bad conditions for someone who can't care for them. Planned Parenthood might not be perfect (who is?) but they provide that service.

As for BLM, sure they aren't a perfect organization either but they are a needed response to systematic racism. If there was a better group doing that work, I'd be happy to support them. I can't just stand by and let people be killed because of the color of their skin.

Socialism: I get that it sounds scary, but look at Canada. They pay taxes and actually get something for it! They get health care, great unemployment support, and a number of other things. They aren't as socialist as they could be, but they are leaps and bounds better off than we are here.

Mainstream media: There's no way you're telling me that Fox News is left leaning?

1) there are a lot of elderly people who are a burden to their children. Should we be able to kill them the way that Planned Parenthood is allowed to kill babies?

2) this requires you to define systemic racialism, because from where I sit, there hasn’t been systemic racism in this country since 1965. Also, your comment comes across as arrogant and condescending. Do you really think any of us are ok with POC being killed?

3) Canada is in no way, shape or form better than what we have here.

4) Fox News is the media equivalent of a RINO
 

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I'll have to read your article. Thanks for all this stuff to consider. I won't reply to it all, but I'll hit a few points.

Abortion: There are lots of women and girls out there whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted child, not to mention the child's life growing up unwanted in bad conditions for someone who can't care for them. Planned Parenthood might not be perfect (who is?) but they provide that service.

As for BLM, sure they aren't a perfect organization either but they are a needed response to systematic racism. If there was a better group doing that work, I'd be happy to support them. I can't just stand by and let people be killed because of the color of their skin.

Socialism: I get that it sounds scary, but look at Canada. They pay taxes and actually get something for it! They get health care, great unemployment support, and a number of other things. They aren't as socialist as they could be, but they are leaps and bounds better off than we are here.

Mainstream media: There's no way you're telling me that Fox News is left leaning?
Abortion - I was adopted. My birthmother had me when she was 16. If you don’t want the baby, It’s simply called adoption my brotha. Girl, you made the decision to have sex, you took on the risk of getting pregnant! As far as rapes and incest go, well incest is illegal and immoral and shouldn’t have been doing it anyways. And rapes are unfortunate and a pregnancy can be undone with plan B before it’s even an embryo. The embryonic stage to the fetal stage is a non issue IMO. Once that embryo becomes a fetus, that’s where I’ve got a problem with it.

BLM- what is your definition of systematic racism? Had you even thought about it like that or heard that term until the media told you what it was? Have they even really TOLD us what that means?? Racism is everywhere and has been since 2 different races met for the first time. You’re not going to just END it and especially with a movement that is actually RACIST itself! black lives matter is a racist organization that promotes violence, it is extreme left like the kkk is on the extreme right. They are both fucking wrong and anyone who supports them is either clueless or a racist themselves. There is no way around that. If you want to stand up against racism, go protest peacefully, that’s fine, you have that right, but again...supporting black lives matter is supporting racism. Looting a s Burning down businesses and cities is anarchy and does nothing to stop racism. If you believe that it does, you are ignorant.

socialism - you obviously haven’t been following what’s going on in Canada, have you? Canadians are literally at the border as we speak claiming they’re being held hostage. All your “free” stuff is destroying the economy and weakening your country as a whole in every way. Again, this is a democratic republic. Our founding principal is freedom. And again, if you don’t like your freedom, if you don’t want your freedom, if you want to be controlled, then take your ass up to Canada if that’s what you so choose.

MSM- fox is absolutely left! They just pretend to be right so the globalists that run it all can say they have alternate views (for ratings $$$)After the election was stolen, they went with everyone else and turned their back on the democratic process. Tucker Carlson and Hannity are fine but the rest of the network is completely left now. Turn it on, you’ll get the news you people enjoy.
 
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I'll have to read your article. Thanks for all this stuff to consider. I won't reply to it all, but I'll hit a few points.

Abortion: There are lots of women and girls out there whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted child, not to mention the child's life growing up unwanted in bad conditions for someone who can't care for them. Planned Parenthood might not be perfect (who is?) but they provide that service.

As for BLM, sure they aren't a perfect organization either but they are a needed response to systematic racism. If there was a better group doing that work, I'd be happy to support them. I can't just stand by and let people be killed because of the color of their skin.

Socialism: I get that it sounds scary, but look at Canada. They pay taxes and actually get something for it! They get health care, great unemployment support, and a number of other things. They aren't as socialist as they could be, but they are leaps and bounds better off than we are here.

Mainstream media: There's no way you're telling me that Fox News is left leaning?
Sounds to me like you should move to Canada. And that nonsense you spew about systemic racism is utter brainwashing bullshit that you've bought hook line and sinker due to the Communist Corporate Media.
 

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While I still feel strong about being able to converse with our enemies, I also still say fuck them kids...

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I'm not opposed to facts, by any means, but is it such a bad thing to also consider feelings? Think about any memory you have, do you actually remember an event or how you felt about that event? It is usually our feelings, good or bad, that leave the largest impression on us. I'm by no means suggesting we should let feelings supersede facts, but I think they deserve a seat at the table. They are not unimportant.
When it comes to policy, fuck your feelings.
 

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I'll have to read your article. Thanks for all this stuff to consider. I won't reply to it all, but I'll hit a few points.

Abortion: There are lots of women and girls out there whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted child, not to mention the child's life growing up unwanted in bad conditions for someone who can't care for them. Planned Parenthood might not be perfect (who is?) but they provide that service.

As for BLM, sure they aren't a perfect organization either but they are a needed response to systematic racism. If there was a better group doing that work, I'd be happy to support them. I can't just stand by and let people be killed because of the color of their skin.

Socialism: I get that it sounds scary, but look at Canada. They pay taxes and actually get something for it! They get health care, great unemployment support, and a number of other things. They aren't as socialist as they could be, but they are leaps and bounds better off than we are here.

Mainstream media: There's no way you're telling me that Fox News is left leaning?
Nice try. You're either a weak assed troll or a moron.
 

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I'll have to read your article. Thanks for all this stuff to consider. I won't reply to it all, but I'll hit a few points.

Abortion: There are lots of women and girls out there whose lives would be ruined by an unwanted child, not to mention the child's life growing up unwanted in bad conditions for someone who can't care for them. Planned Parenthood might not be perfect (who is?) but they provide that service.

As for BLM, sure they aren't a perfect organization either but they are a needed response to systematic racism. If there was a better group doing that work, I'd be happy to support them. I can't just stand by and let people be killed because of the color of their skin.

Socialism: I get that it sounds scary, but look at Canada. They pay taxes and actually get something for it! They get health care, great unemployment support, and a number of other things. They aren't as socialist as they could be, but they are leaps and bounds better off than we are here.

Mainstream media: There's no way you're telling me that Fox News is left leaning?
Holy shit, we should kill babies because they might ruin the mother's life even though she made the decision to have unprotected sex? Do you even hear yourself? I guess that explains why Cuomo savaged all the nursing homes. Those unwanted elderly ppl were just a burden so he had to off them.

BLM - we don't need domestic terrorism in our country.

Oh, and by all means, move to Canada where they have that luxurious healthcare system. Just hope you don't get acute appendicitis or something similar. You'll die of sepsis before your condition can be treated. Socialized medicine sounds great until you're sick.

Good Gawd, I hope you're not a troll. I bit that hook hard if so.
 
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