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This whole package was sold to me as an energy/money saver in that the HP is more efficient. Also, the HP is mounted in the crawl space separate from the outside unit. Made sense to me since it blows air at about 90-95 degrees where as the gas auxiliary blows over 120. Thus the money/energy saving HP is primary and gas is auxiliary for colder temps, which is not a whole lot in AL. And yes, this disaster has cost me a small fortune to install and not much has gone right yet with it. Unfortunately the retard is the owner of the company. Nice guy and I still really do think he means well, he just can’t seem to get it right. Thanks for the continued replies, I really do appreciate the advice
Where in Bama I know a guy around Albertville who could probably fix your issue.
 
This whole package was sold to me as an energy/money saver in that the HP is more efficient. Also, the HP is mounted in the crawl space separate from the outside unit. Made sense to me since it blows air at about 90-95 degrees where as the gas auxiliary blows over 120. Thus the money/energy saving HP is primary and gas is auxiliary for colder temps, which is not a whole lot in AL. And yes, this disaster has cost me a small fortune to install and not much has gone right yet with it. Unfortunately the retard is the owner of the company. Nice guy and I still really do think he means well, he just can’t seem to get it right. Thanks for the continued replies, I really do appreciate the advice
your system isnt your everyday run of mill HP the majority of contactors might be lucky to put in 1 or 2 a year...you cant just throw these in like other systems you have to set these up and program the humidistat so the condenser and evaporator is maximized to get you high efficiency and seer rating

I never installed one.. this was just how the guys always explained it to me I guess you could do it that way if you wanted.. I wouldn't id to use the furnace to heat the house quick.. depending on tonnage its blowing out around 100,000 BTU's that's moving some heat around... then have the heat pump come in and kick on and off when needed to maintain the set temp longer without constant running all night giving you the efficiently

People get natural gas installed in their home for the only purpose cause its the best and cheapest way to heat a house. the HP is located in your outdoor condenser by the compressor and reversing valve.. its purpose is to move the heat around through the indoor and then back out your return vent. HPs are the main reason units don't run 24/7 in the winter time

I think maybe the issue is your HVAC man didn't really know what he was selling or about to get himself into but also wasn't gonna turn down that payday lol. If he literally threw on an ecobee 3 bc he couldn't figure out the 5 .. then lets hope you dont have any more issues with that system bc hes real retarded
 
your system isnt your everyday run of mill HP the majority of contactors might be lucky to put in 1 or 2 a year...you cant just throw these in like other systems you have to set these up and program the humidistat so the condenser and evaporator is maximized to get you high efficiency and seer rating

I never installed one.. this was just how the guys always explained it to me I guess you could do it that way if you wanted.. I wouldn't id to use the furnace to heat the house quick.. depending on tonnage its blowing out around 100,000 BTU's that's moving some heat around... then have the heat pump come in and kick on and off when needed to maintain the set temp longer without constant running all night giving you the efficiently

People get natural gas installed in their home for the only purpose cause its the best and cheapest way to heat a house. the HP is located in your outdoor condenser by the compressor and reversing valve.. its purpose is to move the heat around through the indoor and then back out your return vent. HPs are the main reason units don't run 24/7 in the winter time

I think maybe the issue is your HVAC man didn't really know what he was selling or about to get himself into but also wasn't gonna turn down that payday lol. If he literally threw on an ecobee 3 bc he couldn't figure out the 5 .. then lets hope you dont have any more issues with that system bc hes real retarded
This is his reply to stat 3

The 3 is not discontinued and it runs off your weather data just like the 5. The only difference is it doesn’t have Alexa or come with the sensor.
 
This is his reply to stat 3

The 3 is not discontinued and it runs off your weather data just like the 5. The only difference is it doesn’t have Alexa or come with the sensor.
pulling the weather data quick sets your temps he just doesn't know how to setup the tstat Idk tho hell its not looking good for that guy but he installed it so he better figuring it out
 
Do not underestimate Russia's willingness to fight. They broke Hitlers back, not us. They suffered 25M war dead to beat Hitler. America and all our allies less than 1M.
Russia killed over 900,000 Germans in Stalingrad alone.
And Russia can pretty much match America warhead for warhead.
And America has never had so many Traitors Criminals and MORONS in the WH, The Capitol and the Military.
A Black Swan.
Not to mention we are discharging our best and brightest over a shot.
 
Who do you do that for? I deal with some of those and contamination issues.
Rebuild gas turbines, etc? This one had more than a contamination issue. Contamination we would usually just run some walnut shell through and clean up the compressor etc. The GE Engineer wanted it sent out to GE to have the runout checked because of a vibration problem.
I diagnosed it as a over fueling issue, real orange flame, the main gas valve was over fueling.
The high tech guru's forget the simple things like a gas turbine is an internal combustion engine. This was a real old GE Frame 5 out of Hickham's shop in Texas.
And Hey I was right. Pissed off the young Engineer. Told me I hate you old bastard's. I laughed in his face and said thanks.
Because that is what I used to get paid to do, oversee installs, and repair of heavy industrial machinery. centre drum section in and tacking up.jpg
 
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This is true, a solid sign of the end of Empire.
I bring up the end of civilizations topic once in awhile at home. it’s true...most empires from history rot from within rather than being taken over. The people get fat, lazy, comfortable, and debauched then start feeling sorry for others that are weak. Then every vice becomes acceptable and the destruction begins.
 
Funny enough....had this moment this weekend.


We're at a lax tournament (Max's team won) . So between games, we all go next door (same building ) to the bar for the Bengals game. I was given instructions to get over there and get tables for everyone. I understood my assignment.


Welp, a family made it over and their son had rolled his ankle in the game he had just lost to Max's team. (And be sure I was not happy to see the young man injured. I don't play that way. It could easily be my kid. I pray before every game for every player's health and safety).


They sit down at a bar top table in front of us (we have about 20 people) but it's fine. The TVs are high enough that everybody can see.

And then this Dad realizes who's sitting behind him and decides to stand and move back and forth to purposely block anybody from watching. All the men are loudly telling him to sit down or move, but he developed sudden deafness.


So, me, being me, I went up to him and asked if he could pick a spot, scrunch down, or sit (and I promise, I was nice, smiling and charming. His wife was smiling back at me as I was asking). He turned around with a raised hand and said, "I was here first. Go sit down and shut up". I laughed, thinking he was joking because do what, now? He wasn't, but that was irrelevant and surely he didn't pull that as an excuse and SURELY he didn't turn around with that hand raised ....he did.


Everybody froze. Except me. I'm wearing him out 😂.....and then my husbsnd made it clear from his seat that little dude needed to think about his next move and words very carefully. This dude actually challenged my husband "to take this outside, he's not fucking listening to your shit. We'll settle this outside. Right now, bitch.".


I'm still standing in front of this guy and trying to warm him that this is not a path he wants to go down while trying to keep my husband and son settled. (This is truly for asshat's own good). Meanwhile, his wife grabbed her youngest kids and left with quite the look of death at her husband.


He stupidly kept going. And then my husband stood up. My 6'4, 230 lb husband. (He's the most easy going, friends with anybody and everybody guy. Everybody loves him. And he generally loves everybody. I'm not kidding. He makes friends everywhere he goes..... There are a couple of few people on OB and Mb and maybe here who know him.....Until he decides he needs to step in. A man raising his hand and getting shitty at me will do it...quick like. Very rare occurence) Msx stood up. (Same. Don't fuck with his mama, sisters or, really, any girl) This dude might have been 5'8/160. But no backing down now. I moved back to the table and told the asshat he was a jackass and just stop talking.....great role model for his sons. He said 'you heard what I said'. Yep, punkin, everybody heard what you said. There's a reason your friends, wife and kids aren't backing you up. I suggest you sit down. (As I'm grabbing and forcing my husband and son to sit their assess down)


So, got everybody calmed down, he stood for another 5 minutes to make his whateverthatpointwas and then sat his skinny ass down. Another dad went over to talk to him for a few minutes and apparently, he was feeling embarrassed and knew he was way out of line and was upset his kid was hurt (so was I. I talked to his son earlier) and just pissed off. He wanted to apologize to me..And then....he just left. I'm pretty sure his wife got hold of and made him leave.


And my (and everybody else's) lasting impression is he's a coward.


I would have accepted his apology and we would have bought him a drink. And my husband would have made it all okay while making it clear there are limits to shittiness....and a threat, real or implied, at me is the absolute limit.
 
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