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ETNVol

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Yes, because the man who wrote the Art of the Deal would've have asked Gates for anything in return?

You lose what little credibility you have here when you can't connect more than one dot.

Of course he offered. What he asked for in return is the much more interesting question. And why didn't Gates accept?

Must've offered him the billion $+ the Trump Administration gave to Bill Gates Global Vaccine Initiative. Connect what dots (in other words, made up guesses) you will while I read reports of how many people Trump's vaccine has killed and disabled.
 

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Trump also had Larry Fink at the White House a advising him on covid. And no one complained because it was Trump.
Did you ever complain about anyone in bidens cabinet? You just can't bring yourself to do it cause your dug in on Biden. Hypocrite.
And this is 1 of many. Basically all of them are pitiful.
 

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Trump also had Larry Fink at the White House a advising him on covid. And no one complained because it was Trump.
I may have had a few words about that.

It is tragic that we only get the candidates that we do. As Americans, we should be embarrassed. When was the last time a president of this country was liked, at least in part, by people from both sides of the political spectrum? Seriously, we had Joe Biden running against Donald Trump for leader of the free world. That is terrible IMO. Trump was the better choice, and I am not sure that is saying much about Trump as much as it is about how disgusting Joe Biden is.
 
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Did you ever complain about anyone in bidens cabinet? This guy's a pedo so you must be one also.
This poster ^^^ wants trump to fuck him.

Everyone knows Biden is a fucking retard and everyone thats working for him is deranged.
 

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Must've offered him the billion $+ the Trump Administration gave to Bill Gates Global Vaccine Initiative. Connect what dots (in other words, made up guesses) you will while I read reports of how many people Trump's vaccine has killed and disabled.

research how easy, I mean impossible it is to fire civil service employees in the federal government. That is the deep state. He was constantly under attack by Ben before he won. Please tell me, how was he supposed to do any better when they were trying and did impeach him twice since his first day in office. As soon as he left they began the indict and prosecute campaign. Who should he have trusted? He was an outsider, unfortunately he got terrible advice and didn’t really learn from some of those mistakes. On the vax, he never made it mandatory, and he didn’t hold a gun to anyone’s head to take it. Those are all facts that you cannot disprove, at all. Not sure why your TDS has reached hospice level, but you would be much better served to learn how to have a debate and not be such a fucking asshole.
 

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Ooopsie!

[Brian Cates]

Bill Barr confirms that the investigation into the $5 million Biden bribery scheme was not shut down, as lying Jamie Raskin claimed.

He also confirmed that it was handed off to investigators in Delaware.

Raskin stupidly walked right into a trap.

The FBI has now publicly stated the document and the informant who provided it are part of an ongoing, not closed, criminal investigation.

Raskin claimed on camera that this investigation of The Biden Crime Family was CLOSED under Bill Barr.

Barr has now reappeared publicly to call Raskin a liar, and to CONFIRM that he had not closed this Biden Crime Family investigation. It was still active when he left the AG’s office in Dec 2020.

The question now is…which nobody seems to be asking…is why didn’t current AG Merrick Garland shut this thing down years ago?


Do you all realize how this makes Garland look now that BOTH the FBI and Bill Barr had to come out publicly and stated the investigation was NEVER closed after Raskin lied to the media about it?

All of a sudden EVERYBODY is looking at Merrick Garland and wondering why he didn't shut that freaking thing down 3 1/2 years ago.

A sitting President's family has been under CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION at the DOJ/FBI since even BEFORE Biden started his 2020 Presidential campaign, then all through the campaign, then while he's been in the White House all this time?

Garland is about to be asked some POINTED QUESTIONS about why he allowed this.

And remember, the criminal case that the bribery allegations are part of is SEPARATE from the CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SCANDAL, where Garland appointed a Special Counsel to investigate how these still-classified documents got to Biden's house and think tank.

Its now confirmed that The Biden Crime Family is the target in MULTIPLE federal investigations.


 

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I guess we have different definitions of "effective". If by "effective" you mean put Mitch McConnell's judges on the bench, ballooned the deficit to unbelievable levels, while doing zip to fix election integrity, nothing to expose the mountain of dem scandals, Weiners laptop, Clinton foundation, all while paving the road for the elitists to unleash their killshot, then, yeah, effective. To say nothing of his continued softening on abortion and his embrace of the gay takeover.

Your president:

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None of these sources are Trump supporters yet look what they have to admit.

He failed on the Vax. I agree with that statement. I don't get his position. But he was still the best President since Reagan and it isn't close.
 

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Did you ever complain about anyone in bidens cabinet? You just can't bring yourself to do it cause your dug in on Biden. Hypocrite.
And this is 1 of many. Basically all of them are pitiful.

No idea what you're talking about, and clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about either. About as confusing as a Biden pc.

We're not discussing Biden. Biden wasn't part of Trump's administration. It's sad that the only way you have to paint Don Trump in a positive light is to compare him to Joe Biden.
 

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No idea what you're talking about, and clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about either. About as confusing as a Biden pc.

We're not discussing Biden. Biden wasn't part of Trump's administration. It's sad that the only way you have to paint Don Trump in a positive light is to compare him to Joe Biden.
You really aren't paying attention.
 

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None of these sources are Trump supporters yet look what they have to admit.

He failed on the Vax. I agree with that statement. I don't get his position. But he was still the best President since Reagan and it isn't close.
100% this!
 

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100% this!
Trump is more conservative than many conservatives now but no way has he passed Reagan for most conservative. Maybe in 2016 thru 2018 based on his words. However not before or since that point. That doesn't mean he doesn't have conservative views, he certainly does, but he also has liberal takes as well. (he was a registered democrat and donor for many years) He is more middle of the road IMO, which is not a bad thing at all. We should have those types running for and winning elections. Too far either way and it is a shit show. JMO.

*I know this article is from 2018, but it still has its good points that are true today.
 
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You are pretty thin-skinned to internalize this sort of discourse as "jumping down your throat." I get ad hominems tossed at me daily and don't bristle one bit.

We've seen what Trump can do. He can whip votes for the aforementioned Paul Ryan. He can grow the footprint of the government more than any president since FDR. His pathologies are well-documented, with his need to be liked by the media and the establishment driving his judgments. It's why Maggie Haberman continues to have such access, why he will whip votes for whichever GOP nominee for speaker or RNC chair the establishment pushes. To believe that Donald Trump will suddenly be a trailblazing warrior for the common man requires one to completely ignore his actual record. That is where I take issue.

My question for you is do you think Desantis would be different? Do you believe he will reform our government? Do you think he could keep us out of war for 4-8 years.

I like Ron a lot. His military, Harvard, establishment pedigree is of concern. Rightly or wrongly so. Just so happens a lot of our ex presidents served and attended these same universities. Joined the same clubs…. It’s not hard to figure out why one would be skeptical considering most of those who support Desantis are cut from the same cloth and largely huge pieces of shit
 

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None of these sources are Trump supporters yet look what they have to admit.

He failed on the Vax. I agree with that statement. I don't get his position. But he was still the best President since Reagan and it isn't close.

You got me there, he was the best president since Reagan. Because all of the other presidents since have been anti-American globalists who were clandestinely trying to soften and prepare the country for totalitarian takeover. Using them for comparison is setting the bar at its lowest position.

Even given that, considering the vaccine and its long-term consequences, a long view of Trump may be that he's worse than all of them, combined. If the vax is as bad as I think it was, it will deal a body blow that the country will never recover from.

So pardon me if I don't support, celebrate, worship Trump as many here do. In a mythical world where elections actually mattered, we could do a whole lot better than Don Maga and his pride movement for president.
 

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Drove by Murphy Gas (Walmart) a week or two ago. Gas was $3.10/gallon and diesel was $3.06/gallon. Now there is only a couple of cents difference above or below gas.
Ranges (diesel) from $2.89-$3.49 in my area. Not sure how that relates to gas prices as I generally don't pay attention to them.
 
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You got me there, he was the best president since Reagan. Because all of the other presidents since have been anti-American globalists who were clandestinely trying to soften and prepare the country for totalitarian takeover. Using them for comparison is setting the bar at its lowest position.

Even given that, considering the vaccine and its long-term consequences, a long view of Trump may be that he's worse than all of them, combined. If the vax is as bad as I think it was, it will deal a body blow that the country will never recover from.

So pardon me if I don't support, celebrate, worship Trump as many here do. In a mythical world where elections actually mattered, we could do a whole lot better than Don Maga and his pride movement for president.
I think this is the issue that many people on here have with some people on this board. You spend a lot of your time criticizing Trump and pointing out how bad he was, but then have to admit that he's better than almost every other recent president.

I think we all agree that Trump had some major struggles when in office, but despite that, he did a lot of good things. Anyone that's serious will also admit that he was hamstrung pretty much his whole tenure in office. Maybe now he has a better idea of who he can trust and would make better decisions on people to bring in. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the career politicians, officials, and even military high end guys may be swampy. Tough to verify where these guys stand, which makes it hard to appoint non-swampy people.
 

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My question for you is do you think Desantis would be different? Do you believe he will reform our government? Do you think he could keep us out of war for 4-8 years.

I can't answer for Hoppo, but personally, no, I don't think Desantis will be different. I think if he got in office, they'd find a way to own or corrupt him (and if they couldn't, they'd kill him and/or his family).

That aside, every objection people have to Desantis, we've already seen with Trump, usually many times over. There is virtually no objection to DeSantis that someone not blinded by MAGAnetism wouldn't find in Trump. If Desantis was caught consulting with Bill Gates next week, it's all we'd see ITT. Trump did it, well he must've had a good reason or some such.

Set most everything aside, the good and the bad, 2 things with Trump. He let the vaccine in the door, and he's still promoting it. His hands are drenched in blood. Millions of people will die because they believed him. He also did nothing to secure elections. He gave McConnell and Ryan whatever they wanted, in some cases, even admitted giving the Dems what they wanted, but didn't fight them for election reform? If Trump had done these things, and remember, he's on the record a decade ago claiming elections were fixed, he'd still be in office. I can reach no other conclusion than he's grossly incompetent, or a globalist stooge.
 

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I’ve never said he can’t win. Between the fraud ballots and Donald also alienating a lot of potential votes by acting like a clown show, it’s extremely tough tho. He should have been able to garner enough votes last election to make a fix impossible, alas he thought it more important to get on Twitter and make fun how people look and other dumb shit.
Trumps no angel, BUT to even entertain that Biden won because of some Tweets is ludicrous. You put the blame on him for not overcoming wide spread cheating? GTFOH! Anyone pulling that out of their ass instantly loses credibility.
 
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Trumps no angel, BUT to even entertain that Biden won because of some Tweets is ludicrous. You put the blame on him for not overcoming wide spread cheating? GTFOH! Anyone pulling that out of their ass instantly loses credibility.
He couldn’t garner enough votes to make cheating an impossiblity while running against a vegetable. Yes, that’s on him for acting like a moron on Twitter and in interviews and alienating a ton of people who otherwise would have voted for him.
 

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Trumps no angel, BUT to even entertain that Biden won because of some Tweets is ludicrous. You put the blame on him for not overcoming wide spread cheating? GTFOH! Anyone pulling that out of their ass instantly loses credibility.
I agree. I think this is the most overhyped excuse ever. I have voted for people I dislike in the past and will in the future. Don't really care about twitter wars of words. Trump is usually on the winning end of those things and not for nothing, I do not blame Trump for going after those that go after him. Who was he going to rely on to defend him? The republican party in DC, the RNC? LOL. Those groups dislike his as much as the democrats do.
 

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He couldn’t garner enough votes to make cheating an impossiblity while running against a vegetable. Yes, that’s on him for acting like a moron on Twitter and in interviews and alienating a ton of people who otherwise would have voted for him.



You are a fucking idiot.

He was the first president in modern history to get more votes in his second election than the first.

Did you watch the election and what happened?
 

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I can't answer for Hoppo, but personally, no, I don't think Desantis will be different. I think if he got in office, they'd find a way to own or corrupt him (and if they couldn't, they'd kill him and/or his family).

That aside, every objection people have to Desantis, we've already seen with Trump, usually many times over. There is virtually no objection to DeSantis that someone not blinded by MAGAnetism wouldn't find in Trump. If Desantis was caught consulting with Bill Gates next week, it's all we'd see ITT. Trump did it, well he must've had a good reason or some such.

Set most everything aside, the good and the bad, 2 things with Trump. He let the vaccine in the door, and he's still promoting it. His hands are drenched in blood. Millions of people will die because they believed him. He also did nothing to secure elections. He gave McConnell and Ryan whatever they wanted, in some cases, even admitted giving the Dems what they wanted, but didn't fight them for election reform? If Trump had done these things, and remember, he's on the record a decade ago claiming elections were fixed, he'd still be in office. I can reach no other conclusion than he's grossly incompetent, or a globalist stooge.
I agree that Trump's current stance on the jab makes no sense. However, can you imagine what the push back would have looked like if he didn't do anything when Covid first came out? They probably would have tried to impeach him for not allowing the gov't to pay Pfizer, etc to develop their jabs. Re-election would have been impossible too, as the media was fully pushing the vax campaign.

I'm with you that he was far from perfect, but he was in a rough situation from the start.
 
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You are a fucking idiot.

He was the first president in modern history to get more votes in his second election than the first.

Did you watch the election and what happened?
And it should have been waaay more. He was running against a brain dead moron who couldn’t even form a single fucking sentence and people still chose to vote for Biden because of their hate for trump. He is a terrible leader who thought making fun of peoples looks was more important than being a respectable leader.

You are a fucking idiot if you don’t think trump turned off millions of voters by acting like a complete dipshit every time he spoke.

Then again you also believe trump somehow got bamboozled about the vaccine even though the average moron on here knew it was bullshit 😂😂
That fully confirms your idiocy.
 

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And it should have been waaay more. He was running against a brain dead moron and people still chose to vote for Biden because of their hate for trump. He is a terrible leader who thought making fun of peoples looks was more important than being a respectable leader.


Have You Ever Investigated The Real Ballot Count

It Was as You Wish It Was
 

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I think this is the issue that many people on here have with some people on this board. You spend a lot of your time criticizing Trump and pointing out how bad he was, but then have to admit that he's better than almost every other recent president.

I think we all agree that Trump had some major struggles when in office, but despite that, he did a lot of good things. Anyone that's serious will also admit that he was hamstrung pretty much his whole tenure in office. Maybe now he has a better idea of who he can trust and would make better decisions on people to bring in. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the career politicians, officials, and even military high end guys may be swampy. Tough to verify where these guys stand, which makes it hard to appoint non-swampy people.

Figuring out things like the vax being a massive threat to America is kind of like starting a nuclear war, it's the kind of thing a president can't be wrong about, and he was.

Hard to verify? Maybe, but then there's a truckload of appointments like Bill Barr. You mean the ex-CIA Bush appointee DC lifer was an untrustworthy swamper? How could anyone know that? Whether it's arrogance or incompetence, it lead to failure.
 

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