Food for thought for those of you engaged in the man/woman debate of the last few pages.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Where did Adam get this notion? Did he make it up himself? No, it came directly from God. Jesus quoted Adam, also saying "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Adam was "one flesh" with Eve. God told him to "cleave" to her, meaning to hold onto her, and at that point, we're told of no outs, no exceptions. 4,000 years later, Christ confirmed that there was only one exception, adultery.
Considering all of the above, and what happened with the serpent, did Adam have a choice? Was Eve and the fruit his Kobayashi Maru? He was commanded by God to hold onto Eve. Then Eve sinned, she was going to be expelled from the Garden. Having sinned she could no longer remain in God's presence. Eating the fruit was forbidden, it was a sin. Would leaving Eve to be exiled alone also have been a sin, considering what God had already declared concerning marriage?
Food for thought
Food for thought for those of you engaged in the man/woman debate of the last few pages.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Where did Adam get this notion? Did he make it up himself? No, it came directly from God. Jesus quoted Adam, also saying "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Adam was "one flesh" with Eve. God told him to "cleave" to her, meaning to hold onto her, and at that point, we're told of no outs, no exceptions. 4,000 years later, Christ confirmed that there was only one exception, adultery.
Considering all of the above, and what happened with the serpent, did Adam have a choice? Was Eve and the fruit his Kobayashi Maru? He was commanded by God to hold onto Eve. Then Eve sinned, she was going to be expelled from the Garden. Having sinned she could no longer remain in God's presence. Eating the fruit was forbidden, it was a sin. Would leaving Eve to be exiled alone also have been a sin, considering what God had already declared concerning marriage?
Food for thought.
Good question.
I look at this one through the order of operations. God commands us to follow him first and foremost. To not sin. To do everything else. If we do something else, but it is out of sin (disobedience) we mess it up. Sex itself being a prime example.
I also look at what Jesus said about "flesh" and it's relation to sin.
Matthew 5:29-30
29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
From this, given that Jesus is God, I would infer your answer to the question to be that God created man & woman to continue to create humans., God's own work. To do that required them to become one flesh, physically, in order to take on that responsibility. Adam should've led his wife better. He failed, thus sin entered into the world. It was also a complete violation of the order God established in Genesis 1.
God --> Man --> Woman --> rest of Creation
In the Fall, the order of authority was completely inverted.
Creation (an animal) --> Woman --> Man --> God.
This also spark another question for me re: the Trinity and the concept of Creation.
If we know that God is eternal, and thus by definition, eternal, He has always been and always will be. He can't "die" by definition. If God, through his gift of grace, pours out the Holy Spirit (himself) on those who repent of their sins and follow Jesus, God literally lives in each of those Believers via the Holy Spirit. By definition, they cannot be killed (spiritually) because God is eternal, and God won't destroy himself. Thus a further demonstration of God's perfect plan & design via the Trinity (God himself).
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