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Master Thread Dance Your Cares Away/Fraggle/Law Abiding Citizens

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ETNVol

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Sounds like I'm gonna have to learn to live off the land asap. I bought myself/family 21 acres in East Texas last summer. Maybe time to move out there and make it the homestead now, instead of in 5 years as is the current plan.
Being remote and farming offers only so much protection. If we get real food shortages, gangs of starving people will come to loot and kill. It would take less than a week for the big cities to collapse and the country to fall into anarchy. It'd be a post-apocalyptic movie without the heroic ending.
 

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Being remote and farming offers only so much protection. If we get real food shortages, gangs of starving people will come to loot and kill. It would take less than a week for the big cities to collapse and the country to fall into anarchy. It'd be a post-apocalyptic movie without the heroic ending.
You are west of the Mississippi R. Big bonus, Do the tank of gas exercise. How far can they travel on 1 tank of gas? It is shocking when you do this exercise. In AR inside the 300M circle around my home there lived 8M people.
How far can a person walk in 3 days without food and water?
Lines of drift? Choke points.
Lot of things to examine.
 

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Being remote and farming offers only so much protection. If we get real food shortages, gangs of starving people will come to loot and kill. It would take less than a week for the big cities to collapse and the country to fall into anarchy. It'd be a post-apocalyptic movie without the heroic ending.


This fall, definitely everyone who got the booster but the jabbed will start getting full blown aids.

All these things are coming to a head at the same time.

I am getting chickens. Will keep a 6 month supply of food for them and I have 150 lbs so far of dried beans and rice for my family. Probably going to buy more dried food stuff while I can.


Also a 3 liter tin of olive oil is cheap and has 24k calories.
 
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Boycott List. Start by cancelling everything Disney you can find.
Have a Disney Burning Bonfire.
 

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Putin put a floor under gold. The Russian Central Bank is buying Physical Gold from Russians.
The Ruble is a commodity backed currency now. Biden shot off both his feet with a shotgun, then started shooting his legs off.
The USA/UK/EU/Canada just cancelled half the world's population out of their market place with all their idiot sanctions, most of them illegal under International Law.
When Putin demanded Rubles or Gold for natural gas or oil from the EU/USA that stabilized the Ruble. Now he will extend this demand to all Russian Commodities ie wheat etc.
 

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You are west of the Mississippi R. Big bonus, Do the tank of gas exercise. How far can they travel on 1 tank of gas? It is shocking when you do this exercise. In AR inside the 300M circle around my home there lived 8M people.
How far can a person walk in 3 days without food and water?
Lines of drift? Choke points.
Lot of things to examine.
Sounds Like You Will Need Around 7,999,900 Rounds (Spare the Best 100 Looking for Re-population Purposes)
 

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This fall, definitely everyone who got the booster but the jabbed will start getting full blown aids.

All these things are coming to a head at the same time.

I am getting chickens. Will keep a 6 month supply of food for them and I have 150 lbs so far of dried beans and rice for my family. Probably going to buy more dried food stuff while I can.
Need some more recommendations on food variety that will last without refrigeration.

I have been accumulating things that I may eventually eat anyway. Some may not be an item of choice but it’s something.

Meat
Have canned chicken and canned tuna
Tried canned ground beef but not very good
Canned tamales are okay
Haven’t eaten it in forever but bought dinty Moore beef stew
Variety of soups with meat

Assorted pastas and sauce
Rice
Beans (dry and canned)
Powdered/dry milk
All sorts of canned veggies
Ghee (instead of butter) keeps at room temp

Any more ideas appreciated
 

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Need some more recommendations on food variety that will last without refrigeration.

I have been accumulating things that I may eventually eat anyway. Some may not be an item of choice but it’s something.

Meat
Have canned chicken and canned tuna
Tried canned ground beef but not very good
Canned tamales are okay
Haven’t eaten it in forever but bought dinty Moore beef stew
Variety of soups with meat

Assorted pastas and sauce
Rice
Beans (dry and canned)
Powdered/dry milk
All sorts of canned veggies
Ghee (instead of butter) keeps at room temp

Any more ideas appreciated

How Long Does All That Canned Meat/Soups Last?

The Thing I Like About My Survival Food is the 25 Year Shelf Life - I Was Early On This Train and Have 15 of the 25 Years Left - Figure If Shit Hits the Fan It Will Be in Less Than 15 Years
 

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s-ou-thern

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How Long Does All That Canned Meat/Soups Last?

The Thing I Like About My Survival Food is the 25 Year Shelf Life - I Was Early On This Train and Have 15 of the 25 Years Left - Figure If Shit Hits the Fan It Will Be in Less Than 15 Years
Some of the sauces and dry milk have late ‘23 dates

The canned veggies are ‘24

I think if things happen it will be before then. If food shortages prolong over 3 months I’m not sure the country survives.
 

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I looked at those pumps, they have a solar package for that brand. If the well is too deep the solar package for anything over 1Hp motor is very expensive. In which case don' go solar. Get a storage tank and a gas or diesel generator to run your existing 1Hp plus pump.
Get a storage tank with gravity feed. Also build a cistern for rainwater collection
 

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Some of the sauces and dry milk have late ‘23 dates

The canned veggies are ‘24

I think if things happen it will be before then. If food shortages prolong over 3 months I’m not sure the country survives.
The wife when she was alive, was baking bread from 23 year old wheat stored in #10 cans.
We started using it because the cans had started to show rust on the outside.
It was excellent bread.
You used to be able to buy canned goods from the Mormon's who ran the Bishop's Pantries. Not sure if they still do this or not.
 

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Some of the sauces and dry milk have late ‘23 dates

The canned veggies are ‘24

I think if things happen it will be before then. If food shortages prolong over 3 months I’m not sure the country survives.


Jmo. This country still produces a ton of food. I bet we just have shortages, really expensive food and off and on products.

I talked to a bunch of Serbians about it when nato was sanctioning them and their currency hyperinflated.

I'm just glad I'm not in the northeast. Densely populated areas are going to get hit the hardest, especially combined with cold weather
 

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I think it’s a concerted effort by the cabal to destroy the $$ as the world’s default currency and destroy the global middle class. The first ball to drop will be detaching the dollar from all oil trades. That is such a big deal that most don’t understand the ramifications.

Next, you will see China selling their massive treasury holdings. In a debt market that is currently lacking bids of any volume that sell supply could take our 10 year to 4-5%. We are currently at 2.32 with a recent high of 2.5%.

Gasoline is another major bit of fuckery. I know the largest gasoline trucking company in Chicago. I’m good friends with the COO and have worked with him for 15 years. They have 46 tanker trailers. Those trailers do over 5 million miles annually delivering fuel in
Chicagoland. He’s running 29 right now. He is beside himself as to why he can’t get drivers. There is some major fuckery at work there. And it’s not just fuel logistics. It’s across the supply chain.

Now the important shit. Farmer input costs are getting extremely onerous. If you are a dairy farmer the cost of grain and hayage/silage you feed your cattle is through the roof. If you are a grain/silage farmer your fertilizer costs are up 100+% at least. Your fuel to run your equipment is up 200+%. If you are a chicken or hog farmer Covid literally and figuratively killed your labor base. Vax mandates were the extra 10 shells you pumped into the corpse. If you don’t have workers to process the meat, truckers to deliver it, or your fuel/grain costs continue to rise what are you gonna do as a businessman?

The destruction of our livelihood is well on its way. If you have $50mm+ you are good. If you can live off the land you are good. If you aren’t in those groups your life is about to get real fucking shitty.

I certainly hope I’m wrong.
And even 50MM+, you are only good in the short-term.

once people get desperate, no amount of money, or security, will do you any good.

So the question we must all ask is where is our hope?
 

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Is it just me or does she get uglier and nastier by the day?
 
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