Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!

Master Thread Dance Your Cares Away/Fraggle/Law Abiding Citizens

Master Threads

t_money86

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
3,478

tenor.gif
 

Jayhox

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
5,131
OK, don’t. We make a shit ton of money with Tier 3 TV rights due to basketball. If we go to the B1G, the conference gets that $ and can build on it with our proven streaming revenue the last two years. Same with the ACC. There is a reason the remaining Big12 teams not named KU are shitting themselves right now. They either don’t qualify academically or have no revenue streams to offer. KU does.
 

Jayhox

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
5,131
Basketball is not going to get them into the big. A fraction of what football brings in for big ten schools. Only thing that would get them in is football viewership in the kc area, and not sure how that is with k-state and the chiefs.
Even K-State football doesn’t draw shit in the KC area compared to KU basketball. And the future revenue streams will have more of a basketball component than now when they wrestle the NCAA basketball tournament away from the NCAA like they did with football. FOX and ESPN understand that and are going into the next round of negotiations with the conferences right now. Even with shit football we still blow away K-State in revenue generation. Get football going and we go from a good middle of the road asset to a top 4 asset in the B1G.
 

s-ou-thern

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
3,955
That simplistic scenario is about as far away from how this stuff happens as it gets. KU provides value for future basketball revenue when the schools break from the NCAA control. KU also owns the KC metro. Only the Chiefs and (occasionally) the Royals draw more viewers. MU and K-State are about 1/3 the interest combined in the KC market.

It’s not arrogance. It’s facts that matter and the networks value what KU basketball brings to the future of television broadcast/streaming and they are selling us to both the B1G and the ACC for the upcoming contract renewals in 2023 and 2025, respectively.
You probably have to roll up how many times KU basketball is on a national broadcast and come up with a football equivalency. There are no great direct comparisons to football because one basketball broadcast doesn’t equal one football broadcast. Is it three to one for value (national football to basketball)? Maybe four at worst? KU basketball gets a ton of broadcast time. Many weeks KU has two national games in basketball season. That has to equal network value.
 

Jayhox

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
5,131
You probably have to roll up how many times KU basketball is on a national broadcast and come up with a football equivalency. There are no great direct comparisons to football because one basketball broadcast doesn’t equal one football broadcast. Is it three to one for value (national football to basketball)? Maybe four at worst? KU basketball gets a ton of broadcast time. Many weeks KU has two national games in basketball season. That has to equal network value.
Name me two or three B1G conference basketball matchups that excite anyone. Now think of how many great matchups there would be against KU. KU fills arenas and gets national games against everyone in the Big12 that otherwise don’t happen when KU isn’t the opponent. There is value there in a conference that cares about basketball.
 

Jayhox

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
5,131
@Jayhox when is your next race? Keep us in the loop on your comeback. Need to get you signed up to the FSF race team. If there isn’t such a thing there should be. SKOLPatriot!
Some local races this year to continue to get back into the groove. Next year is when I hope to get back to nationals and shoot for a Team USA spot. Maybe a half Ironman or two to try and get back to Worlds, but that is probably a 2023 goal.
 

s-ou-thern

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
3,955

Manbearpig

Poster
Joined
Jan 9, 2021
Messages
34
Name me two or three B1G conference basketball matchups that excite anyone. Now think of how many great matchups there would be against KU. KU fills arenas and gets national games against everyone in the Big12 that otherwise don’t happen when KU isn’t the opponent. There is value there in a conference that cares about basketball.

Not one remaining team in the big 12 will add additional tv revenue per school to a different power 5 conference. The fact that you think KU has a snowball in hells chance is laughable and arrogant.

KU has the worst power 5 football program in college football history, if not the worst program in college football history. KU’s big 12 record from 2010-2020 was 6-83. From the year 2010-2020, KU lost 99 football games, and it would have been 100 if their last game did it get cancelled in 2020 due to covid against Texas. KU has not won a road football game in over 13 years.

Basketball does not matter in conference realignment, and if it did do you think a program with 5 pending level 1 NCAA violations would be a good add for any conference?
 

s-ou-thern

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
3,955
Name me two or three B1G conference basketball matchups that excite anyone. Now think of how many great matchups there would be against KU. KU fills arenas and gets national games against everyone in the Big12 that otherwise don’t happen when KU isn’t the opponent. There is value there in a conference that cares about basketball.
I’m not terribly familiar with Big basketball on a yearly basis. It seems that there are some schools that are very relevant most of the time, some about 50/50, some less, and many with a strong basketball tradition.

Big fans don’t get defensive because I already said I’m not greatly familiar. However, it seems those are

nationally revenant most years (top 15 or so)
Wisconsin
Ohio St
MSU
Michigan

Close
Iowa
Purdue

50/50
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern?

All of the above against KU would he a big broadcast. Most years only games between those top four would be the same in viewership.
 

Phillip McKraken

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 2, 2020
Messages
1,218
I've thought the same thing for a while. While there is no doubt you have to be intelligent to be a doctor, I agree with your saying that they are less about critical thinking and more about if "a" happens then this is how you treat it rather than trying to prevent "a" in the first place. I follow some doctors for weight lifting information and they fell right in line with the jab stuff and don't entertain ivermectin, etc. due to there not being enough information with respect to covid. Granted they are definitely evidence based in all things they do so I understand their opinion on the matter, but they almost took the stance of "I'm a doctor so I'm right and you're wrong". Rubbed me the wrong way for sure.

My view has also shifted closer to your last paragraphs. I use to pfft when someone said big pharma but then I started paying attention. Covid was as eye opening as anything could be if you were paying attention. Healthy people don't make them money. Now I'm not saying that there is a cure for cancer out there and it's being hidden (certainly could be true) but I also know that medical school teaches close to nothing on weight training, adequate sunlight exposure, what to eat for fiber, etc., things that would prevent a large majority of the health issues plaguing our country right now.
Life can be fairly simple if you want it to be but we muck it up for ourselves me probably more than others. If you’re relatively nice to people, eat right, get enough sleep, exercise, have a little fun, have a couple close friends, have a significant other/family, and make enough money to save a bit and afford food and normal expenses, that’s all you need. Oh and porn. Tons of it. And you need to average one good shit a day.

We complicate it by distracting ourselves from fairly simple principles. We’re fat, lazy, don’t take care of ourselves, eat crappy and do whatever people tell us because they are in a position of pseudo authority.

im that chunky dad, who eats horribly, hardly exercises, am sleep deprived, I ignore my friends. The only person I listen to is myself and I seem to have a constant level of anxiety. We make life harder than it needs to be.
 

MortgageHorn

Your Favorite Loan Officer
Founder
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
27,242
Life can be fairly simple if you want it to be but we muck it up for ourselves me probably more than others. If you’re relatively nice to people, eat right, get enough sleep, exercise, have a little fun, have a couple close friends, have a significant other/family, and make enough money to save a bit and afford food and normal expenses, that’s all you need. Oh and porn. Tons of it. And you need to average one good shit a day.

We complicate it by distracting ourselves from fairly simple principles. We’re fat, lazy, don’t take care of ourselves, eat crappy and do whatever people tell us because they are in a position of pseudo authority.

im that chunky dad, who eats horribly, hardly exercises, am sleep deprived, I ignore my friends. The only person I listen to is myself and I seem to have a constant level of anxiety. We make life harder than it needs to be.


IMO Where Trump Messed Up

It Was Perfect Time to Point Out if You Don't Take Care Of Yourself You Are at a High Risk of Dying

Diet & Excercise is the Only Way
 

thenick_ttu

Elite
Founder
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
1,020
The only way the PAC takes a single Big 12 school is if we're splitting off from the NCAA and it's required to form whatever hell on earth CFB league they try and create. Barring that - PAC Presidents are not taking on non AAU schools (regardless of what the commissioner said last week and obviously not including KU/ISU). No one moves the needle and PAC Presidents are an elitist bunch. They had major issues with Lite the first time, but were willing if Texas came along too. Still trying to figure out where Tech got their rumors from. That ain't happening either.

I hope you’re right. The very last thing I want for Tech is to go to the PAC.
 

Jayhox

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
5,131
Not one remaining team in the big 12 will add additional tv revenue per school to a different power 5 conference. The fact that you think KU has a snowball in hells chance is laughable and arrogant.

KU has the worst power 5 football program in college football history, if not the worst program in college football history. KU’s big 12 record from 2010-2020 was 6-83. From the year 2010-2020, KU lost 99 football games, and it would have been 100 if their last game did it get cancelled in 2020 due to covid against Texas. KU has not won a road football game in over 13 years.

Basketball does not matter in conference realignment, and if it did do you think a program with 5 pending level 1 NCAA violations would be a good add for any conference?
K-State fan? LOL
 

Emmo496

Elite
Founder
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
183
OK, don’t. We make a shit ton of money with Tier 3 TV rights due to basketball. If we go to the B1G, the conference gets that $ and can build on it with our proven streaming revenue the last two years. Same with the ACC. There is a reason the remaining Big12 teams not named KU are shitting themselves right now. They either don’t qualify academically or have no revenue streams to offer. KU does.
I can bet you $$$ to donuts that OSU isn’t shitting itself right now. Your basketball revenue is great, don’t get me wrong, but football is king these days and your program is a dumpster fire right now.
Also, Kansas basketball is under investigation right now for FIVE Level 1 violations, and charges of lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility. Things could get a lot worse before they get better.
You do have the Academic chops to appeal to the B1G, but this may be the one time that this simply doesn’t matter.
 

BamaRidger

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
15,373

Jayhox

Legendary
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
5,131
I can bet you $$$ to donuts that OSU isn’t shitting itself right now. Your basketball revenue is great, don’t get me wrong, but football is king these days and your program is a dumpster fire right now.
Also, Kansas basketball is under investigation right now for FIVE Level 1 violations, and charges of lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility. Things could get a lot worse before they get better.
You do have the Academic chops to appeal to the B1G, but this may be the one time that this simply doesn’t matter.
What are OSU’s options?

SEC? Nope
B1G? Not qualified
PAC? Not qualified and can’t use OU to drag them over an exemption
ACC? Nope

Only option is a huge Hail Mary with the PAC and suffer a significant revenue drop, or cobble together a shit Big12 from G5 schools that cuts the TV revenue in half or worse.
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom