Biblical Prophecy Thread

[AgEngDawg]

Must watch to correct some errors in this thread from Pastor John Piper.

 

[Joe Kings]

cool, show me. I am not interested in bickering, I am interested in the truth. Please show me in the King James were it says there will be An Antichrist, meaning a singular person as is commonly thought.

Sorry My point is, it doesnt matter. Just like the Arguement of when Christ was born. It doesnt matter. Im not intrested in proving you right or wrong. Its really inconquensial in the big picture.

1. 1 John 2:18
   Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.
   
   
2. 1 John 2:22
   Who is the liar except the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.
   
   
3. 1 John 4:3
   and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and now it is already in the world.
   
   
4. 2 John 1:7
   For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist

5. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4​

   Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
   
   

   Daniel 7:24-25 ESV / 120 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful​

   As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise, and another shall arise after them; he shall be different from the former ones, and shall put down three kings. He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
   
   Theres a lot. I guess youre interupting them differently.
   
   What are you saying is going on? No antichrist Or evil one. Satan will come to earth as man and deceive. No?
   
   I havent followed all your posts bc you guys were just talking smack.
   
   Youre just stuck on something that doesnt matter.
   
   
   
   
   
   

 

[ETNVol]

Must watch to correct some errors in this thread from Pastor John Piper.

 

[Joe Kings]

Some crazy ideas that don’t come from the Bible.

Like you said. Seek the lord accept JEsus and live for Him. the other stuff doesnt matter. ! antichrist or more when the stuff happens and how doesnt matter. Much love to you

 

[Joe Kings]

You guys are going back and forth about scripture and what it says then debating how you interpret it.

 

[Joe Kings]

What is dead in Christ will rise first mean?

 

[ETNVol]

What is dead in Christ will rise first mean?

Exactly what it says. Believers who are dead will be resurrected and then given a new body before believers who are still alive will.

 

[ETNVol]

You guys are going back and forth about scripture and what it says then debating how you interpret it.

Studying scripture, I can come to no other conclusion, I've tried. I've found no way to reconcile numerous passages with each other without there being a pre-tribulational rapture.

As an example, when John gets to Heaven in Rev. 4. the elders toss their crowns at Christ's feet. They would only have their crowns if the judgment of believers (referred to often as the Bema judgment) had aready taken place. People don't have a new body and their crowns until Christ gives it to them at the rapture ("My reward is with me"). In other words, John sees a Heaven that is post-rapture, yet the Tribulation is only just beginning.

Most of the scripture is written to Israel or the Jews, or is about them. Most of it is not about us gentiles. It's for us, but it's not directly to us, outside of the epistles. People read Revelation, Matthew 24, etc and insert Christians into passages that are undeniably about national Israel, we've seen it even in this thread. Paul told us to comfort one another with the promise of the rapture. The Tribulation will be literal hell on earth. At one point, people will seek to die and will be unable to do so. What is the comfort in that? "Don't worry, you'll have to suffer hell for 7 years then God will rescue us. God will pour out his wrath on us, even though that was supposed to take place for the believer on the cross." Not a lot of comfort in that. Nor logic in a post or even mid tribulational belief.

 

[ETNVol]

 

[racernhra]

@catfishpunter @ETNVol and other contributors.

I have been asked to give the message at our church in 2 weeks and I’m asking for some help.

Although this is not my first message it is one of importance to me and I do not want to mislead the congregation.

I’m new to studying the Bible and recently completed the New Testament and starting on the old. So, I’m not nearly as educated as many are but I’m working on it.

I want to discuss following God’s law and how many times that is in conflict with what our government instructs, often through mandated, that are sometimes perceived as “law” from authoritative figures. Through controlled messaging from big tech and media, people often judge others based upon this messaging and fear, even to the point of allowing the non-compliant to be persecuted by whatever means authorities deem appropriate (quarantine camps, eating out, travel, etc.)

The following from James 3:1 weighs on my mind in my preparation:

“Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.”

I’m looking for some assistance in scripture to research explaining how my handle God’s law when it conflicts with man’s law. Standing up against the majority to do what we feel God is instructing us to do even when unpopular or leads to pain and hardship.

And direction would be greatly appreciated.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Rapture Doctrine invented by John Darby in 1830 AD

John Nelson Darby - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you were to bring up this "rapture" to preachers 200 years ago, they would not know WTF you were talking about.

What happened to those left behind during the flood? I suspect the same thing that will happen the second time.

 

[Goat]

@catfishpunter @ETNVol and other contributors.

I have been asked to give the message at our church in 2 weeks and I’m asking for some help.

Although this is not my first message it is one of importance to me and I do not want to mislead the congregation.

I’m new to studying the Bible and recently completed the New Testament and starting on the old. So, I’m not nearly as educated as many are but I’m working on it.

I want to discuss following God’s law and how many times that is in conflict with what our government instructs, often through mandated, that are sometimes perceived as “law” from authoritative figures. Through controlled messaging from big tech and media, people often judge others based upon this messaging and fear, even to the point of allowing the non-compliant to be persecuted by whatever means authorities deem appropriate (quarantine camps, eating out, travel, etc.)

The following from James 3:1 weighs on my mind in my preparation:

“Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.”

I’m looking for some assistance in scripture to research explaining how my handle God’s law when it conflicts with man’s law. Standing up against the majority to do what we feel God is instructing us to do even when unpopular or leads to pain and hardship.

And direction would be greatly appreciated.

Get the prey mat out and cuddle thy goat. The God's, there very many but due to financial constraints you lot have God, the bearded lady and the muslimes have Allahn and Mohammerhead. I'd give up and watch Xhampster, just an opinion but hey ho

 

[weaponoffreedom]

@catfishpunter @ETNVol and other contributors.

I have been asked to give the message at our church in 2 weeks and I’m asking for some help.

Although this is not my first message it is one of importance to me and I do not want to mislead the congregation.

I’m new to studying the Bible and recently completed the New Testament and starting on the old. So, I’m not nearly as educated as many are but I’m working on it.

I want to discuss following God’s law and how many times that is in conflict with what our government instructs, often through mandated, that are sometimes perceived as “law” from authoritative figures. Through controlled messaging from big tech and media, people often judge others based upon this messaging and fear, even to the point of allowing the non-compliant to be persecuted by whatever means authorities deem appropriate (quarantine camps, eating out, travel, etc.)

The following from James 3:1 weighs on my mind in my preparation:

“Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.”

I’m looking for some assistance in scripture to research explaining how my handle God’s law when it conflicts with man’s law. Standing up against the majority to do what we feel God is instructing us to do even when unpopular or leads to pain and hardship.

And direction would be greatly appreciated.

I think that you would be better served by reading the bible than by asking these idiots about it. They shy away from the truth when in conflict with their opinions. Break the cycle.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Like you said. Seek the lord accept JEsus and live for Him. the other stuff doesnt matter. ! antichrist or more when the stuff happens and how doesnt matter. Much love to you

I agree, but some if not many do not, and will not seek until it is too late. Truth is all important. The last time I chimed in, I got called all kinds of names and such. Anger is a manifestation of weakness, and if the truth is on your side, there is not weakness. I have posed to them several questions, and have not got one concrete answer.

 

[Joe Kings]

Studying scripture, I can come to no other conclusion, I've tried. I've found no way to reconcile numerous passages with each other without there being a pre-tribulational rapture.

As an example, when John gets to Heaven in Rev. 4. the elders toss their crowns at Christ's feet. They would only have their crowns if the judgment of believers (referred to often as the Bema judgment) had aready taken place. People don't have a new body and their crowns until Christ gives it to them at the rapture ("My reward is with me"). In other words, John sees a Heaven that is post-rapture, yet the Tribulation is only just beginning.

Most of the scripture is written to Israel or the Jews, or is about them. Most of it is not about us gentiles. It's for us, but it's not directly to us, outside of the epistles. People read Revelation, Matthew 24, etc and insert Christians into passages that are undeniably about national Israel, we've seen it even in this thread. Paul told us to comfort one another with the promise of the rapture. The Tribulation will be literal hell on earth. At one point, people will seek to die and will be unable to do so. What is the comfort in that? "Don't worry, you'll have to suffer hell for 7 years then God will rescue us. God will pour out his wrath on us, even though that was supposed to take place for the believer on the cross." Not a lot of comfort in that. Nor logic in a post or even mid tribulational belief.

Agree with this.

 

[Joe Kings]

@catfishpunter @ETNVol and other contributors.

I have been asked to give the message at our church in 2 weeks and I’m asking for some help.

Although this is not my first message it is one of importance to me and I do not want to mislead the congregation.

I’m new to studying the Bible and recently completed the New Testament and starting on the old. So, I’m not nearly as educated as many are but I’m working on it.

I want to discuss following God’s law and how many times that is in conflict with what our government instructs, often through mandated, that are sometimes perceived as “law” from authoritative figures. Through controlled messaging from big tech and media, people often judge others based upon this messaging and fear, even to the point of allowing the non-compliant to be persecuted by whatever means authorities deem appropriate (quarantine camps, eating out, travel, etc.)

The following from James 3:1 weighs on my mind in my preparation:

“Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.”

I’m looking for some assistance in scripture to research explaining how my handle God’s law when it conflicts with man’s law. Standing up against the majority to do what we feel God is instructing us to do even when unpopular or leads to pain and hardship.

And direction would be greatly appreciated.

It is sinful to break mans law unless it is against Gods law or requires you to sin. I dont believe you by the way, but thats the answer. Teaching is like judging. The Bible says Judge least you be judged. Never says dont judge says you better be clean in the areas you judge or teach.

 

[Joe Kings]

Get the prey mat out and cuddle thy goat. The God's, there very many but due to financial constraints you lot have God, the bearded lady and the muslimes have Allahn and Mohammerhead. I'd give up and watch Xhampster, just an opinion but hey ho

You struggle with porn addiction?

 

[racernhra]

It is sinful to break mans law unless it is against Gods law or requires you to sin. I dont believe you by the way, but thats the answer. Teaching is like judging. The Bible says Judge least you be judged. Never says dont judge says you better be clean in the areas you judge or teach.

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it. What do you mean when you say you don’t believe me?

 

[ETNVol]

 

[kingsolomon1.0@protonmail]

Studying scripture, I can come to no other conclusion, I've tried. I've found no way to reconcile numerous passages with each other without there being a pre-tribulational rapture.

As an example, when John gets to Heaven in Rev. 4. the elders toss their crowns at Christ's feet. They would only have their crowns if the judgment of believers (referred to often as the Bema judgment) had aready taken place. People don't have a new body and their crowns until Christ gives it to them at the rapture ("My reward is with me"). In other words, John sees a Heaven that is post-rapture, yet the Tribulation is only just beginning.

Most of the scripture is written to Israel or the Jews, or is about them. Most of it is not about us gentiles. It's for us, but it's not directly to us, outside of the epistles. People read Revelation, Matthew 24, etc and insert Christians into passages that are undeniably about national Israel, we've seen it even in this thread. Paul told us to comfort one another with the promise of the rapture. The Tribulation will be literal hell on earth. At one point, people will seek to die and will be unable to do so. What is the comfort in that? "Don't worry, you'll have to suffer hell for 7 years then God will rescue us. God will pour out his wrath on us, even though that was supposed to take place for the believer on the cross." Not a lot of comfort in that. Nor logic in a post or even mid tribulational belief.

Jew or Judaism is a man made religion that has nothing to do with blood but the man made religion that believes not in christ and their GOD is the devil as it's an antichristian belief system. Gentile was a term created in the and used to deceive the masses. Within the original Greek translation it the word was nation or nations of Israel. This is why when Yashua said he only came for the lost sheep of Israel he told his apostles (NOT FALSE APOSTLE PAUL) to go and spread the news to the nations of the lost sheep of Israel. At that time these lost sheep were in Europe and Asia minor as the Israelites are white. The thirteen tribes have always been white and will always be white.

As for the pre, mid or post trib rapture or no rapture I've seen many debates going back and forth on this. To me it's irrelevant. Salvation is by your belief and faith in Yahshua, follow the law and being a pureblood Israelite as well as repentance for one's sins. Would it be great to avoid suffering on earth? Sure, but it's nothing in comparison to eternal life in paradise.

Check out the book traced by Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson. You can order your own DNA test to see what son of Noah you come from as well if you come from the lineage of Abraham's seed. Then if you have no Edomite blood or any other race then you're a pureblood Israelite. It's the best test we have to date to make this determination. I found out I am from Abraham and have no Edomite blood or any other race therefore I can receive salvation. Again, do not follow the false apostle Paul who contradicts the scriptures. He does this because he's an Edomite and does not receive the promises of YHWH. He admits to lying in the bible and intentionally misinterpreted the old testament scriptures many times to deceive the masses especially where he states anyone who believes in Yashua will receive salvation but that's a lie. Salvation and all the promises are for pureblood Israelites and nobody else. Everyone else was created to be destroyed.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Jew or Judaism is a man made religion that has nothing to do with blood but the man made religion that believes not in christ and their GOD is the devil as it's an antichristian belief system. Gentile was a term created in the and used to deceive the masses. Within the original Greek translation it the word was nation or nations of Israel. This is why when Yashua said he only came for the lost sheep of Israel he told his apostles (NOT FALSE APOSTLE PAUL) to go and spread the news to the nations of the lost sheep of Israel. At that time these lost sheep were in Europe and Asia minor as the Israelites are white. The thirteen tribes have always been white and will always be white.

As for the pre, mid or post trib rapture or no rapture I've seen many debates going back and forth on this. To me it's irrelevant. Salvation is by your belief and faith in Yahshua, follow the law and being a pureblood Israelite as well as repentance for one's sins. Would it be great to avoid suffering on earth? Sure, but it's nothing in comparison to eternal life in paradise.

Check out the book traced by Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson. You can order your own DNA test to see what son of Noah you come from as well if you come from the lineage of Abraham's seed. Then if you have no Edomite blood or any other race then you're a pureblood Israelite. It's the best test we have to date to make this determination. I found out I am from Abraham and have no Edomite blood or any other race therefore I can receive salvation. Again, do not follow the false apostle Paul who contradicts the scriptures. He does this because he's an Edomite and does not receive the promises of YHWH. He admits to lying in the bible and intentionally misinterpreted the old testament scriptures many times to deceive the masses especially where he states anyone who believes in Yashua will receive salvation but that's a lie. Salvation and all the promises are for pureblood Israelites and nobody else. Everyone else was created to be destroyed.

you are an idiot