Your Race - Left Understands - Do You?

[TheFiend]

How is it funny? I'm still posting at Resisters and they have an impartial admin over there so that you are on level ground. Who ran away like a scalded dog?

Oh ya must be meaning how you packed a tantrum and fled after a week of your failed attempts to bully that one particular member of my forum completely backfired on ya... which is even funnier considering that you have since lied about & blamed me for all of your own stupid actions.

Now regarding your claims of admin impartiality at Resisters....yeah sure thing mate. I totally believe ya...lmfao.

 

[TheFiend]

You're very good at posting bullshit; not very competent when it comes to civil discussion and honest debate. I'm sure you'll find some support from the far far far left.

Ain't that cute. Coming from a guy who compulsively bullshits.

 

[TheResister]

Oh ya must be meaning how you packed a tantrum and fled after a week of your failed attempts to bully that one particular member of my forum completely backfired on ya... which is even funnier considering that you have since lied about & blamed me for all of your own stupid actions.

Now regarding your claims of admin impartiality at Resisters....yeah sure thing mate. I totally believe ya...lmfao.

I have never backed away from a fight sport. You got your facts a little wrong. You fled Resisters, made a Mickey Mouse board and tried to dominate the new board with bullshit, but never returned to Resisters where it is a level playing field.

You're a lying mother fucker if you claim that any post you ever made at Resisters was deleted at any time. Even off topic posts are never deleted there and if you're in a debate, both sides are fairly heard there, but you can't make the same point over and over. At some point the people get to decide the issue at Resisters. Your bloviating with non topical matter and spewing shit you are too much of a coward to say to my face just isn't worth my time... not here and not on your board,.

You have this idea that if you continue to badger people that will make you right. Well, "mate" when I call people like that, it's because I want a face to face with them. You don't so you haven't earned the right to talk down to a swinging dick on the face of this earth. The only people that would back your approach against me are feds, commies and outright cowards. Don't talk shit to a man unless you're calling him out and you let him name the time and place.

If you want to have a conversation with me, you'd better pull your head out of your ass. You can be put on ignore just like a couple other trolls here. Then all that time wasting cowardly bullshit will be wasted time for you.

 

[TheFiend]

If people aren't going to accept the source NOR the link, the onus is on them to prove that both are incorrect. To disbelieve is not the same as to disprove.

Just can't seem to help yourself can ya.

The onus for the burden of proof lies with the party initiating the claim.

If your "sources" & links are inadequate to prove your claims, that's a you problem. Not anyone elses.

 

[TheResister]

Everyone here has been invited to Resisters to see that nobody bullied Fiend there and I didn't have the ability to bully a damn soul on a site I've never held a moderator or admin position on. And, insofar as to the credibility of sources, I am content to let YOU, the readers decide... NOT my critics. Fiend is a pathological liar. But, back to basics:

There are anti-White trolls and double agents all around us when we talk about race. It is a taboo subject, the best way to derail the discussion is to change the subject. Again, America was founded on the twin pillars of race and religion. Rare is the Black person that won't jump on a bandwagon to hate the Whites for the fact that America had a racial policy.

It wasn't until 1967 in the United States that the ban on interracial marriage was over-turned. And what do you think was driving a ban on interracial marriages? Earlier I posted a video of Jimmy Venable. In his heyday Venable would tell you that resistance to mixed marriages was in keeping with the word of God. It's almost funny that Whites (hoping to become the best negrophilist) are denying what everybody else ends up admitting. Cultural integrity matters. Our racial policies are driven by Bible law. The left has been unable to this point to brainwash everyone in the U.S. regarding racial / cultural integrity and if you ask those resisting the left, the Bible keeps coming up.

Without moral absolutes there is nothing saving America from becoming a Democratic Socialist cesspool.

 

[TheFiend]

I have never backed away from a fight sport. You got your facts a little wrong. You fled Resisters, made a Mickey Mouse board and tried to dominate the new board with bullshit, but never returned to Resisters where it is a level playing field.

We both know that is a straight up lie.

You're a lying mother fucker if you claim that any post you ever made at Resisters was deleted at any time.

Well its a good thing I have never claimed anything of the sort.

I'm curious why you've suddenly made up such an oddly specific load of nonsense.
Are you messing with my old posts or something?

Even off topic posts are never deleted there and if you're in a debate, both sides are fairly heard there, but you can't make the same point over and over. At some point the people get to decide the issue at Resisters. Your bloviating with non topical matter and spewing shit you are too much of a coward to say to my face just isn't worth my time... not here and not on your board,.

Fortunately I just don't believe anything you say because of the consistent lying and cowardice demonstrated by yourself.

You have this idea that if you continue to badger people that will make you right. Well, "mate" when I call people like that, it's because I want a face to face with them. You don't so you haven't earned the right to talk down to a swinging dick on the face of this earth. The only people that would back your approach against me are feds, commies and outright cowards. Don't talk shit to a man unless you're calling him out and you let him name the time and place.

Yeah righto mate.

If you want to have a conversation with me, you'd better pull your head out of your ass. You can be put on ignore just like a couple other trolls here. Then all that time wasting cowardly bullshit will be wasted time for you.

Harden up cunt.

 

[TheFiend]

Everyone here has been invited to Resisters to see that nobody bullied Fiend there and I didn't have the ability to bully a damn soul on a site I've never held a moderator or admin position on. And, insofar as to the credibility of sources, I am content to let YOU, the readers decide... NOT my critics. Fiend is a pathological liar. But, back to basics:

Jfc mate. If you're going to continue to lie, at least try to make your lies a little less blatantly obvious.

Oh ya must be meaning how you packed a tantrum and fled after a week of your failed attempts to bully that one particular member of my forum completely backfired on ya... which is even funnier considering that you have since lied about & blamed me for all of your own stupid actions.

 

[TheResister]

We both know that is a straight up lie.


Well its a good thing I have never claimed anything of the sort.

I'm curious why you've suddenly made up such an oddly specific load of nonsense.
Are you messing with my old posts or something?


Fortunately I just don't believe anything you say because of the consistent lying and cowardice demonstrated by yourself.


Yeah righto mate.


Harden up cunt.

No matter how big you make your letters you fled Resisters and anybody here can go back there and see where you left off.

You are a liar and a coward.

 

[TheResister]

Jfc mate. If you're going to continue to lie, at least try to make your lies a little less blatantly obvious.

You are the liar "mate." Aye, you are. The only people that will believe you and join in your trash talk and NO ACTION are communists, faggots and feds.

You are the one who fled a discussion board. I tend to just quit the back and forth bullshit. You called me out not expecting me to accept the challenge. When I did, you had to create a board to keep the argument going.

The difference between you and I is that I post what I have to say and let it stand. I don't try to play popularity politics nor try to tell people what the other guy says. I say what I have to say and allow people to make up their own minds. You just keep rehashing the same shit. You never bring anything new to the table. It's about personalities and popularity. Sooo... after today I'll treat you like the other two bitches that whined and complained, but didn't want a piece of the action. You can be put on ignore, just like they are.

 

[TheFiend]

No matter how big you make your letters you fled Resisters and anybody here can go back there and see where you left off.

You are a liar and a coward.

Left off what?

 

[TheFiend]

You are the liar "mate." Aye, you are. The only people that will believe you and join in your trash talk and NO ACTION are communists, faggots and feds.

You are the one who fled a discussion board. I tend to just quit the back and forth bullshit. You called me out not expecting me to accept the challenge. When I did, you had to create a board to keep the argument going.

The difference between you and I is that I post what I have to say and let it stand. I don't try to play popularity politics nor try to tell people what the other guy says. I say what I have to say and allow people to make up their own minds. You just keep rehashing the same shit. You never bring anything new to the table. It's about personalities and popularity. Sooo... after today I'll treat you like the other two bitches that whined and complained, but didn't want a piece of the action. You can be put on ignore, just like they are.

Cool story.

 

[TheFiend]

You are the liar "mate."

Ya keep projecting that same retarded accusation, yet ya still ain't ever backed it up with nothing other than even more baseless accusations.
Eye wonder why...

Aye, you are. The only people that will believe you and join in your trash talk and NO ACTION are communists, faggots and feds.

Oh yeah, believe what?

That I busted you attempting to lie again.

Or that everyone can see your failed lie for themselves.

You are the one who fled a discussion board.

Prove your claim then.

I tend to just quit the back and forth bullshit.

Of course your preceding posts would support that claim too aye, lol.

You called me out not expecting me to accept the challenge.

Interesting. Do tell more.

When I did, you had to create a board to keep the argument going.

Well I guess if what you say were true, then I'm sure @shiv & @weaponoffreedom would be able to confirm your claim aye.

What do you guys reckon?

The difference between you and I is that I post what I have to say and let it stand.

Ffs we both do that ya knucklehead.

However one big difference between you and I...is that I'm not a pathological liar aye matey.

I don't try to play popularity politics nor try to tell people what the other guy says.

Only problem with that claim, is the fact everyone can read your posts and see that's exactly what you do-do.

I say what I have to say and allow people to make up their own minds.

Yeah you certainly do say stuff, butt you also definitely do effort manipulating other people's minds very often too don't cha.

You just keep rehashing the same shit.

Come again.

You never bring anything new to the table.

And again.

It's about personalities and popularity.

And again.

Sooo... after today I'll treat you like the other two bitches that whined and complained, but didn't want a piece of the action.

Oooh goodie.

You can be put on ignore, just like they are.

Go on then tough guy, prove your toughness...by fleeing like a little bitch—again.

 

[TheResister]

Ya keep projecting that same retarded accusation, yet ya still ain't ever backed it up with nothing other than even more baseless accusations.
Eye wonder why...


Oh yeah, believe what?

That I busted you attempting to lie again.

Or that everyone can see your failed lie for themselves.


Prove your claim then.


Of course your preceding posts would support that claim too aye, lol.


Interesting. Do tell more.


Well I guess if what you say were true, then I'm sure @shiv & @weaponoffreedom would be able to confirm your claim aye.

What do you guys reckon?


Ffs we both do that ya knucklehead.

However one big difference between you and I...is that I'm not a pathological liar aye matey.


Only problem with that claim, is the fact everyone can read your posts and see that's exactly what you do-do.


Yeah you certainly do say stuff, butt you also definitely do effort manipulating other people's minds very often too don't cha.


Come again.


And again.


And again.


Oooh goodie.


Go on then tough guy, prove your toughness...by fleeing like a little bitch—again.

I don't do multi - quotes. They are for people with a limited IQ. Everybody is welcome to go to Resisters and see where you tapped out.

Trying to badger and bait me by calling me a liar will not get your posts read. You are what you are and NO amount of projection on your part will change that. You called me out. I took the challenge. YOU TAPPED OUT. Nothing changes those facts. If you want to call me a liar, then the onus is now on you to tell me to name the time and the place.

Other than that, this back and forth bullshit is just for you to be able to whack off to. I'm not into it. You are put on ignore. Pull your head out of your ass and prove you're a man. Otherwise, the only friends you have are you and maybe a couple of liberal bedwetters, a fed and your many sock-puppets you created to try and bait me with. Good riddance to bad trash.

 

[TheFiend]

I don't do multi - quotes. They are for people with a limited IQ. Everybody is welcome to go to Resisters and see where you tapped out.

Trying to badger and bait me by calling me a liar will not get your posts read. You are what you are and NO amount of projection on your part will change that. You called me out. I took the challenge. YOU TAPPED OUT. Nothing changes those facts. If you want to call me a liar, then the onus is now on you to tell me to name the time and the place.

Other than that, this back and forth bullshit is just for you to be able to whack off to. I'm not into it. You are put on ignore. Pull your head out of your ass and prove you're a man. Otherwise, the only friends you have are you and maybe a couple of liberal bedwetters, a fed and your many sock-puppets you created to try and bait me with. Good riddance to bad trash.

Run along then.

 

[TheResister]

Working beyond the troll that amuses no one except maybe himself and liberal scum, we can return back to the discussion:

Liberals and non-Whites have obsessed over White peoples supposed "white privilege." Liberal Blacks define that so - called "privilege:"

Whiteness and white racialized identity refer to the way that white people, their customs, culture, and beliefs operate as the standard by which all other groups of are compared. Whiteness is also at the core of understanding race in America. Whiteness and the normalization of white racial identity throughout America's history have created a culture where nonwhite persons are seen as inferior or abnormal.

...Since white people in America hold most of the political, institutional, and economic power, they receive advantages that nonwhite groups do not. These benefits and advantages, of varying degrees, are known as white privilege. For many white people, this can be hard to hear, understand, or accept - but it is true. If you are white in America, you have benefited from the color of your skin."

Whiteness

Socially and politically constructed, whiteness is not simply referring to skin color but is an ideology that reinforces power at the expense of others and strengthens systems of oppression. Let’s dig deeper.

nmaahc.si.edu

Black liberals tell people up front that there is a White culture. On that point we agree. As Whites we do use that as a standard when examining other races. When non-Whites have different customs, we find that "abnormal" as we have our own culture that defines what is good, bad, evil, acceptable, etc., etc. Big deal. EVERY race uses the same standard in judging Whites.

Now, let's see where the Black liberals and I disagree according to the above article:

They say:

"Here are some examples she gives on what white privilege looks like in day to day living":

• I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
• I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
• If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
• I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
• I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed
• I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

RESPONSE: On the street I live on, I'm counting 23 houses. Of those there are at least two non-White gay couples, eight Black families, six Hispanic families and I only know of five White families (counting my own). As a matter of fact, in the city I went to school at, some Black girls were on social media, bitching about a White girl in "their" pool. So, the pool, operated by the city is owned by Blacks and Whites have White privilege? Oh, I think I get it. Blacks have Rights and Whites have privileges.

Where I live, Whites cannot arrange to be in the company of other Whites. That would be construed as racist AND there aren't very many Whites around here in the same age groups. Blacks and other non-Whites can safely move to any house they want in America. I'm not seeing an issue there.

The only way I can avoid daily contact with primarily non-Whites and foreigners is to take a two hour drive up into the country. Blacks deny Whites the "privilege" of hanging together. On tv here, the news is dominated by Black newscasters; most of the politicians are Black; the hospitals are staffed by predominantly Blacks and foreigners and most doctors, nurses, aides, etc. are NOT White. I don't have any privilege there.

We can't complain about the situation. That is interpreted as racism and anybody involved in that is censored, ostracized and permanently banished from the community. Most of what those people complain about are things that Whites have to face in 85 percent of the world. Whites only make up 15 percent of the world's population and world-wide have fewer Rights than any other race or culture on the face of this earth. Just saying.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Well I guess if what you say were true, then I'm sure @shiv & @weaponoffreedom would be able to confirm your claim aye.

What do you guys reckon?

I dont remember seeing anything like that.

 

[TheResister]

I dont remember seeing anything like that.

shiv posts on Resisters? And weaponoffreedom... fess up boy. Who got me posting on this site when you and I were on opposite sides at Resisters? Even after they got a full time admin, you took a hike too. Just like by faggot with his own bully pulpit.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

shiv posts on Resisters? And weaponoffreedom... fess up boy. Who got me posting on this site when you and I were on opposite sides at Resisters? Even after they got a full time admin, you took a hike too. Just like by faggot with his own bully pulpit.

I invited you here, as you have brought up before. You should be proud of that fact you boast. To be honest, I have no idea what you all were talking about....I thought you were all speaking of @TheFiend website, not yours.

It is yall arguement, not mine.

 

[TheFiend]

I invited you here, as you have brought up before. You should be proud of that fact you boast. To be honest, I have no idea what you all were talking about....I thought you were all speaking of @TheFiend website, not yours.

It is yall arguement, not mine.

Yep, we actually are talking about my forum.

Not sure why TheResister keeps trying to switch out nzfsf for Resisters.

 

[TheResister]

I invited you here, as you have brought up before. You should be proud of that fact you boast. To be honest, I have no idea what you all were talking about....I thought you were all speaking of @TheFiend website, not yours.

It is yall arguement, not mine.

Fiend didn't like an even playing field so he started his own Mickey Mouse board and after exiting Resisters, invited me to his board. I actually didn't realize he had some kind of ax to grind just because we disagreed. He started a few sock puppet accounts on his site and started bullying me and badgering me.

I made my points and at some point, I got tired of the back and forth personality shit and childish memes, so I left. He didn't post on boards, especially Resisters, where people have to make a point outside of memes and childish allegations that Fiend thrives off of. IF Fiend had been fair and honest, I would have faced off against him on both sites. He obviously has a cheering section here, but his primary support is from feds and faggots - maybe communists. So, beware of taking sides between us.

 

[TheFiend]

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Fiend didn't like an even playing field so he started his own Mickey Mouse board and after exiting Resisters, invited me to his board. I actually didn't realize he had some kind of ax to grind just because we disagreed. He started a few sock puppet accounts on his site and started bullying me and badgering me.

I made my points and at some point, I got tired of the back and forth personality shit and childish memes, so I left. He didn't post on boards, especially Resisters, where people have to make a point outside of memes and childish allegations that Fiend thrives off of. IF Fiend had been fair and honest, I would have faced off against him on both sites. He obviously has a cheering section here, but his primary support is from feds and faggots - maybe communists. So, beware of taking sides between us.

@TheResister
@TheFiend

Yall call yourself Christians correct? If that is the case, lets bury the hatchet, and start some conversations about some good stuff.

 

[TheResister]

@TheResister
@TheFiend

Yall call yourself Christians correct? If that is the case, lets bury the hatchet, and start some conversations about some good stuff.

I'm pretty comfortable with my position, so I have no hatchet to bury. Fiend, having conceded defeat by resorting to memes and accusations he can't back up and tapped out when I accepted his challenge is fully discredited from my vantage point. Is he a Christian?

How many atheists, communists and other vermin along those lines are supporting his attacks?

I've never drawn first blood in these exchanges. I've met people on their turf and stayed the course until a critic resorts to memes, false allegations and personality contests. Then the critics usually have the worst forms of life supporting their false claims.

I'm now back on track to talk about the OP. If you have any other conversation you want to engage in, I will be happy to accommodate, but IGNORE works wonders when you run into people that love to entertain themselves by posting to people that don't read their posts. Some of these people have had it too easy all their life and you can't earn their respect via the Internet. Sometimes it comes down to face to face and watch them squirm.

 

[TheResister]

I began this thread in a very specific place. I want to post again along the lines in my first posting.

Back in 1977 Duke Duke organized Border Watch. This was the first effort of its kind and Duke did it under the banner of the Ku Klux Klan. Now, make no mistake. Duke was (is ?) a former Nazi that founded his own branch of the KKK. It would be academically dishonest to blame that iteration of the KKK on the Masons.

Personally, I have issues not related to his ideology, but rather business practices. Be that as it may, the Ku Klux Klan, under Duke, pioneered the idea of citizens taking an active part if protecting the border even if they had to be armed to do so.

To hear phony right wingers claim they care about our country, advocate manning the border and then denounce the KKK as a hate group is hypocritical IN MY OPINION. Those not IN the fight probably never knew anyone in Duke's faction nor the kind of people he relied on in developing his political views. You have to give the devil his due.

Duke was well acquainted with Donald Trump. Trump left the Reform Party after being considered as their presidential nominee when David Duke's name started coming up. BTW, in 2000 Trump was a self described "progressive" and was in favor of having gays in the military. Later Trump would deny ever having met Duke in his 2016 bid as a presidential candidate.

Then Duke endorsed Trump and even sent letters out about an event Duke was holding to help people learn how to become an elector for Trump. And there is the rub. Trump, like so many fake conservatives, denying the people that pioneered the political platform they adopted and denouncing people that are exactly like them. The challenge to find common ground and not allow the far left to divide our White culture should be a topic that we can address.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

I began this thread in a very specific place. I want to post again along the lines in my first posting.

Back in 1977 Duke Duke organized Border Watch. This was the first effort of its kind and Duke did it under the banner of the Ku Klux Klan. Now, make no mistake. Duke was (is ?) a former Nazi that founded his own branch of the KKK. It would be academically dishonest to blame that iteration of the KKK on the Masons.

Personally, I have issues not related to his ideology, but rather business practices. Be that as it may, the Ku Klux Klan, under Duke, pioneered the idea of citizens taking an active part if protecting the border even if they had to be armed to do so.

To hear phony right wingers claim they care about our country, advocate manning the border and then denounce the KKK as a hate group is hypocritical IN MY OPINION. Those not IN the fight probably never knew anyone in Duke's faction nor the kind of people he relied on in developing his political views. You have to give the devil his due.

Duke was well acquainted with Donald Trump. Trump left the Reform Party after being considered as their presidential nominee when David Duke's name started coming up. BTW, in 2000 Trump was a self described "progressive" and was in favor of having gays in the military. Later Trump would deny ever having met Duke in his 2016 bid as a presidential candidate.

Then Duke endorsed Trump and even sent letters out about an event Duke was holding to help people learn how to become an elector for Trump. And there is the rub. Trump, like so many fake conservatives, denying the people that pioneered the political platform they adopted and denouncing people that are exactly like them. The challenge to find common ground and not allow the far left to divide our White culture should be a topic that we can address.

Duke did not pioneer guarding the border, Cesar Chavez was doing it in the late 60's and early 70's keeping migrants from coming over the border to take jobs in the wine and farm fields.

Cesar chavez guarding the border

Cesar Chavez, a prominent labor leader and civil rights activist, had a complex history regarding immigration and border control. While he was a strong advocate for the rights of Latino farmworkers, he also took a hardline stance on illegal immigration. Early Stance In the early years of his...

search.brave.com

To hear a clown claim things about our country to fit his racial ideals by not knowing actual history says a lot. buttthatsjusme imjusayn

We know you know Duke, as he stayed at your family home when you were young. Its obvious you have racial views. SMFH

Duke even endorsed Tulsi Gabbard. SMFH

David Duke Endorses Tulsi Gabbard 2020 Campaign

White supremacist and former GOP Louisiana state senator David Duke appeared to endorse Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard's 2020 campaign for president as she and other Democrats are being blasted by pro-Israel lobbyists and publications.

www.newsweek.com

You sure like to play guilt by association.

 

[TheFiend]

@TheResister
@TheFiend

Yall call yourself Christians correct? If that is the case, lets bury the hatchet, and start some conversations about some good stuff.

Aye? Eye ain't no cultist brah!

 

[weaponoffreedom]

I have no hatchet to bury

Aye? Eye ain't no cultist brah!

So you just want to argue about nothing, and not continue with some interesting topics that are not of the ultra racial \ political or super psychedelic?

 

[TheResister]

So you just want to argue about nothing, and not continue with some interesting topics that are not of the ultra racial \ political or super psychedelic?

In what sentence, in what paragraph, on what board and in what lifetime did I say that?

This thread happens to be about the left understanding that there is a White culture and it is under attack. Many Whites don't even seem to comprehend that there IS a racial culture. As such, they try to distance themselves from people they have been brainwashed, Pavlovian style to believe are mere hatemongers. I'm pushing for unity and understanding.

In the other corner, you will find people like Fiend that are casting aspersions, making things up, projecting and outright lying. Other than them not wanting to be proven wrong and that there is a legitimate White culture, it's difficult to say what motivates him (and people like him IF you believe that his sock puppets might be other liberals that post on his board). the most important issues of the day generally cross roads with the race issue, so I can't pretend it doesn't exist.

On this board we've covered gun control. Nobody is interested. Due to the high number of homosexual / bisexual / Quadrasexuals on this board, I see no reason to discuss abortion. I'm not into wasting my time watching the monkeys chase the balls on tv, so I don't know enough about sports to discuss or argue over it. When you and I discussed the end times, you took a hike because there wasn't a cheering section for either of us in a forum that is more of a think tank as opposed to a bitch box. So, we're not going to have a thread about race. I don't know where you want to go, but as long as people are accessing this thread, this one will be about race. If you have another topic, post it and if I have something worthy to contribute, I will.

 

[TheResister]

To get back on point:

Most people who are obsessed with issues like the border and immigration or illegal drugs and gang violence (in general) are oblivious to the fact that people who were called White supremacists were leading the way in doing what the MAGA types are doing today.

In the years from around 1914 through the 1920s the United States saw a lot of violence when the government used force against miners. There was the Ludlow Massacre and the Blair Mountain incident and, in both instances, the government fired on the people, killing scores of men, women and children. Americans have been reluctant to use armed resistance to counter the government.

In 1977 David Duke organized Border Watch and that would be the first time armed citizens would attempt to enforce their will against people they characterized as "illegals." The MAGA crowd of today is merely enjoying the fruits of the labor of people they now want to call White supremacists. The issue is that the so - called "White supremacists" have earned their spot in history and deserve to be acknowledged for their work.

When you have people that hate others for the sake of hating, then yes, it should be approached a bit differently. If you stand, armed, as a sign of resistance after your nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress have been exhausted, then you should appreciate the efforts of people before you and acknowledge the sacrifices they made for the same reasons you are of the same political mindset. Build unity on understanding. Further, when people have to do extreme things in order to protect their Rights, don't assume it's being done on the basis of blind hate. You exhaust all of your nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress and then, if that fails, you resort to extraordinary actions that will ultimately culminate in resistance or submission to your political enemies.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

To get back on point:

Most people who are obsessed with issues like the border and immigration or illegal drugs and gang violence (in general) are oblivious to the fact that people who were called White supremacists were leading the way in doing what the MAGA types are doing today.

In the years from around 1914 through the 1920s the United States saw a lot of violence when the government used force against miners. There was the Ludlow Massacre and the Blair Mountain incident and, in both instances, the government fired on the people, killing scores of men, women and children. Americans have been reluctant to use armed resistance to counter the government.

In 1977 David Duke organized Border Watch and that would be the first time armed citizens would attempt to enforce their will against people they characterized as "illegals." The MAGA crowd of today is merely enjoying the fruits of the labor of people they now want to call White supremacists. The issue is that the so - called "White supremacists" have earned their spot in history and deserve to be acknowledged for their work.

When you have people that hate others for the sake of hating, then yes, it should be approached a bit differently. If you stand, armed, as a sign of resistance after your nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress have been exhausted, then you should appreciate the efforts of people before you and acknowledge the sacrifices they made for the same reasons you are of the same political mindset. Build unity on understanding. Further, when people have to do extreme things in order to protect their Rights, don't assume it's being done on the basis of blind hate. You exhaust all of your nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress and then, if that fails, you resort to extraordinary actions that will ultimately culminate in resistance or submission to your political enemies.

White supremacists were not leading the way in anything other than promoting racial hatred and division. To conflate the actions and motivations of White supremacists with broader labor and economic issues is both historically inaccurate and morally misleading. Here are several reasons why:

1. Misrepresentation of Historical Context:
   • Labor Movements vs. White Supremacy: The early 20th-century labor movements, such as those involved in the Ludlow Massacre and the Battle of Blair Mountain, were fundamentally about workers' rights and economic justice. These movements sought fair wages, safer working conditions, and the right to unionize. In contrast, White supremacist groups, like those led by David Duke, were motivated by racial hatred and aimed at maintaining racial hierarchies. The two are not comparable and should not be conflated.
2. Historical Inaccuracies Regarding Armed Border Actions:
   • Citizens Along the Border: Armed citizen patrols along the U.S.-Mexico border have a long history that predates David Duke and his Border Watch. For instance, Hispanic communities and others were involved in such activities well before Duke's involvement. These actions were often driven by local concerns about crime and border security, not by the racist ideologies that motivated White supremacist groups.
   • Eisenhower's Border Policies: The issue of border security has been a significant concern for the U.S. since at least the 1950s. President Dwight D. Eisenhower implemented Operation Wetback in 1954, a controversial policy aimed at addressing illegal immigration. This was long before the rise of the modern MAGA movement and underscores that border issues are not a recent phenomenon or the result of White supremacist actions.
3. Rejection of Moral Equivalence and Justification of Extremism:
   • No Justification for Hate: White supremacists deserve no acknowledgment other than recognition of their racist and hateful ideologies. The contributions they made were not towards the betterment of society or the protection of rights, but rather towards the perpetuation of racial discrimination and violence.
   • Political Mindsets: The political mindset of White supremacists, which is rooted in racial hatred and the desire to maintain white dominance, is fundamentally different from the motivations of many in the MAGA movement, which, despite its controversies, includes a range of issues such as economic policy, immigration reform, and national sovereignty. It is crucial to differentiate between movements driven by hate and those driven by policy disagreements, even if one disagrees with those policies.
4. Building a Better Political Discourse:
   • Focus on Nonviolent and Legal Avenues: Effective political movements should prioritize nonviolent resistance and legal avenues to address their grievances. Resorting to violence, especially when inspired by groups with a history of racial hatred, undermines democratic principles and can lead to further societal division and conflict.
   • Rejecting Hate: It is essential to unequivocally reject any association with ideologies rooted in hate. Modern political movements should learn from the past to build a future based on justice, equality, and mutual respect.

In conclusion, the notion that contemporary political movements should acknowledge or appreciate the efforts of White supremacists is not only historically and morally flawed but also dangerous. By rejecting the ideologies of hate and focusing on constructive, nonviolent political engagement, we can work towards a more just and equitable society.

watafukn

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Aye? Eye ain't no cultist brah!

What does this mean?

 

[TheResister]

Donald Trump acknowledged that there were good people that participated in the rally at Charlottesville. He was right.

The head of the Ku Klux Klan (the real / original one) fought for and won cases for Black people. Did it for money? No, not always. He did his share of pro bono cases and won them.

William Bradford Shockley was awarded a Nobel for his work on transistors and that research culminated in the hotbed of electronic innovation known as Silicon Valley. Shockley was also a researcher in eugenics. He once stated:
"My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin and, thus, not remediable to a major degree by practical improvements in the environment."[49]



The point here is that there are a lot of good people in America that have racial views. For the government, media and special interest groups (like the Anti-Defamation League) to suggest that people are motivated by hate is unfounded. Are there bad people among them? Yes. Let's go a step further:

I have maintained all along that all people are due unalienable Rights. When Jefferson penned those words in the Declaration of Independence, there was no such thing as a citizen of the United States as no such country existed. Today, the anti-immigrant lobby accepts the left wing view about the universal equality of man. Then, they pretend that immigration is about human registration papers that are filed with a corrupt government operating out of Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption. Really?

Oh, we're told that the immigration laws exist for a reason. What might that reason be? Have you ever actually examined WHY those laws were passed to begin with? If you believe in the universal equality of man, what legitimate reason could one possibly have for denying people their unalienable Rights? Are we not a free country built on the premise of free trade? Does the free market not dictate how fast or slow the economy grows?

Suppose that employers were the sole determinants of who gets a job and who doesn't. If the employers are hiring Americans and people that look like the owners; if they get dibs on jobs, then what would drive foreigners to come here when we're looking out for each other first? And, why do we need a government god to tell us who we can and cannot hire? If property owners could exercise their private property Rights and rent / sell to the person (s) of their choice, and if those property owners didn't do business with the third world, what would drive them to come here in droves? Can the laws of supply and demand not be depended upon to drive our economy? Again, if there is this universal equality of man, how does MAGA justify their immigration policy? Are they closet socialists OR do they secretly practice cultural integrity because they want to perpetuate their culture and values? And if America is about language, culture and borders, what in the Hell does the phony right think distinguishes them from what used to be patriots and constitutionalists that are being called "White supremacists?" Think about it.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

Donald Trump acknowledged that there were good people that participated in the rally at Charlottesville. He was right.

The head of the Ku Klux Klan (the real / original one) fought for and won cases for Black people. Did it for money? No, not always. He did his share of pro bono cases and won them.

William Bradford Shockley was awarded a Nobel for his work on transistors and that research culminated in the hotbed of electronic innovation known as Silicon Valley. Shockley was also a researcher in eugenics. He once stated:
"My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin and, thus, not remediable to a major degree by practical improvements in the environment."[49]



The point here is that there are a lot of good people in America that have racial views. For the government, media and special interest groups (like the Anti-Defamation League) to suggest that people are motivated by hate is unfounded. Are there bad people among them? Yes. Let's go a step further:

I have maintained all along that all people are due unalienable Rights. When Jefferson penned those words in the Declaration of Independence, there was no such thing as a citizen of the United States as no such country existed. Today, the anti-immigrant lobby accepts the left wing view about the universal equality of man. Then, they pretend that immigration is about human registration papers that are filed with a corrupt government operating out of Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption. Really?

Oh, we're told that the immigration laws exist for a reason. What might that reason be? Have you ever actually examined WHY those laws were passed to begin with? If you believe in the universal equality of man, what legitimate reason could one possibly have for denying people their unalienable Rights? Are we not a free country built on the premise of free trade? Does the free market not dictate how fast or slow the economy grows?

Suppose that employers were the sole determinants of who gets a job and who doesn't. If the employers are hiring Americans and people that look like the owners; if they get dibs on jobs, then what would drive foreigners to come here when we're looking out for each other first? And, why do we need a government god to tell us who we can and cannot hire? If property owners could exercise their private property Rights and rent / sell to the person (s) of their choice, and if those property owners didn't do business with the third world, what would drive them to come here in droves? Can the laws of supply and demand not be depended upon to drive our economy? Again, if there is this universal equality of man, how does MAGA justify their immigration policy? Are they closet socialists OR do they secretly practice cultural integrity because they want to perpetuate their culture and values? And if America is about language, culture and borders, what in the Hell does the phony right think distinguishes them from what used to be patriots and constitutionalists that are being called "White supremacists?" Think about it.

Historical Context of Visas and Immigration Laws​

Your argument suggests that immigration control and laws are modern inventions that infringe on unalienable rights. However, historical evidence shows that systems of regulating entry into countries have existed for centuries, which aligns with the international principle of sovereignty.

• Historical Use of Visas: The concept of visas is not a modern creation. Visas have been used since ancient times as a means of controlling the entry and stay of foreigners. For instance:
  • Ancient Egypt: The Amarna letters (14th century BCE) include requests for safe passage, akin to modern-day visas.
  • Medieval Europe: Pilgrims and merchants often required letters of safe conduct from local lords or rulers, which functioned similarly to visas.
  • Ottoman Empire: Travel documents known as "tezkere" were issued to regulate and monitor travelers within and entering the empire.
• Sovereign Rights of Nations: The right of a sovereign nation to control its borders and regulate the entry of foreigners is a widely recognized principle in international law. This principle ensures that nations can maintain security, order, and the welfare of their citizens.

Unalienable Rights and Immigration​

The assertion that unalienable rights include the unrestricted right to enter any country misunderstands the scope of these rights.

• Unalienable Rights: According to the Declaration of Independence, unalienable rights include life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These rights pertain to the relationship between a government and its citizens rather than an absolute right to migrate.
• Regulated Immigration: Countries enact immigration laws to balance the rights and needs of their citizens with those of immigrants. These laws are designed to manage resources, protect jobs, and maintain social cohesion, all of which are vital to a nation’s stability and prosperity.

Donald Trump and Charlottesville​

Your reference to Donald Trump's comments on the Charlottesville rally requires clarification. While Trump did acknowledge the presence of "good people" on both sides, he explicitly condemned the racists and their actions:

• Trump’s Condemnation: In a statement on August 14, 2017, Trump said, “Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” This clear denunciation of hate groups shows that Trump did not endorse the racist aspects of the rally.

Economic Freedom and Government Regulation​

Your argument for unregulated economic freedom overlooks the importance of balanced governance in maintaining fairness and preventing exploitation:

• Fair Employment Practices: Without regulation, employers could engage in discriminatory hiring practices, leading to systemic inequality. Employment laws ensure that all individuals have equal opportunities based on merit rather than race or nationality.
• Housing and Property Rights: Unregulated property rights could result in discriminatory practices, exacerbating social divisions. Anti-discrimination laws in housing ensure that everyone has a fair chance to live in safe and inclusive communities.

Conclusion​

The principles of regulated immigration and border control have deep historical roots and are essential to the functioning of modern states. Unalienable rights, as defined by foundational documents, do not include an unrestricted right to enter any country. Additionally, while recognizing the contributions of individuals with controversial views, it is crucial to condemn and distance from any harmful ideologies they may hold. Donald Trump's explicit condemnation of hate groups at Charlottesville reinforces the importance of distinguishing between acknowledging diverse perspectives and endorsing harmful ideologies.

 

[TheResister]

Parting shots - Just in case somebody does stumble across this thread, we witnessed what the far left will do in order to keep you from considering this subject. Thank you, Fiend, for having derailed the thread.

When you have irrelevant attacks and stuff not related to the topic it's hard to get to the bottom line. My point is that many times the White supremacists as you call them wanted the same, exact thing that MAGA and Tea Party types did; however, after exhausting all their nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress, their Rights were still disrespected / denied.

When the more modern right wing poseurs try to cobble together excuses or a rationale for making any distinction their proposed "solutions" (if you can call regression a solution) is half right wing and half socialism. That half socialism bothers me. On this thread nobody tried to put a serious defense to what I said. Maybe they realize that socialism is indefensible. Both sides would do well to consider what the real solutions are.

 

[Joe Kings]

This
Fucking thread sounds like a gay Orgy. Fuckn A Faggots you are so bold now. Hope nobody gets pregnant

 

[TheResister]

This
Fucking thread sounds like a gay Orgy. Fuckn A Faggots you are so bold now. Hope nobody gets pregnant

Had it not been attacked by a left wing faggot trying to derail it, we might have gotten a decent discussion. Fiend has a way of attracting the worst kind of scumbags to a thread.

If you have anything productive to say, you might want to add it now.

With Donald Trump now in the news, having uttered that "dreadful" N word, I'm sure you can tell me how that differentiates him from those people who work on behalf of White Rights. The Jan. 6 rally turned violent. MAGA types co-opted the racial message of the 1970s and 1980s. Maybe they should just agree to work toward a common cause and let Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, AOC and the ADL go to HELL.

 

[TheFiend]

Parting shots - Just in case somebody does stumble across this thread, we witnessed what the far left will do in order to keep you from considering this subject. Thank you, Fiend, for having derailed the thread.

Whatever you say mate.

Dunno bout your choice for preemptively insulting all future readers intelligence though.
Butt I'm sure it'll prove hugely successful...

When you have irrelevant attacks and stuff not related to the topic it's hard to get to the bottom line. My point is that many times the White supremacists as you call them wanted the same, exact thing that MAGA and Tea Party types did; however, after exhausting all their nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress, their Rights were still disrespected / denied.

When the more modern right wing poseurs try to cobble together excuses or a rationale for making any distinction their proposed "solutions" (if you can call regression a solution) is half right wing and half socialism. That half socialism bothers me. On this thread nobody tried to put a serious defense to what I said. Maybe they realize that socialism is indefensible. Both sides would do well to consider what the real solutions are.

 

[Teeaichsee]

2 words americans are utterly afraid of is,,NIGGER and RACIST!
they are just sounds quit being afraid to speak and notice the communist sodomites who are on every forum just to disrupt it and inform on the freedom loving people who post anything. One does not have the right to not be offended!! In this country there is no such thing as white unity or white culture. I am sure everyone of us here are on some kind of watch list. remember a swahili is still a watusi by any other name. quit being afraid! Unite with your fellow white man! that is what the non white world fears the most,,White Unity.

 

[TheResister]

2 words americans are utterly afraid of is,,NIGGER and RACIST!
they are just sounds quit being afraid to speak and notice the communist sodomites who are on every forum just to disrupt it and inform on the freedom loving people who post anything. One does not have the right to not be offended!! In this country there is no such thing as white unity or white culture. I am sure everyone of us here are on some kind of watch list. remember a swahili is still a watusi by any other name. quit being afraid! Unite with your fellow white man! that is what the non white world fears the most,,White Unity.

This is the very best post I've read of yours. I didn't come right out and say the word because it is usually the one where spineless keyboard commandos hit the ban button and lock you out for saying it.

The thing to look out for in mainstream is to accuse every White person that disagrees with the multicultural view is being a White supremacist. The stark reality is that everybody is a racist. You read me right. Even the multiculturalist believes that the mixed multitude is superior to Whites that don't want to integrate into the cultural hodge podge that America has become. And, rather than to live and let live, they bait and badger; troll and control; denying to their fellow man the freedom of conscience. They think you don't have the Right to a Freedom of Association and a Freedom of Disassociation.

 

[TheFiend]

So you just want to argue about nothing, and not continue with some interesting topics that are not of the ultra racial \ political or super psychedelic?

Settle down mate.

As you will recall posing a general question in an earlier post.

I simply provided an answer.

Here's a refresher:

@TheResister
@TheFiend

Yall call yourself Christians correct? If that is the case, lets bury the hatchet, and start some conversations about some good stuff.

I absolutely do not call myself anything of the sort.