• Pat Flood (@rebarcock) passed away 9/21/25. Pat played a huge role in encouraging the devolopmemt of this site and donated the very first dollar to get it started. Check the thread at the top of the board for the obituary and please feel free to pay your respects there. I am going to get all the content from that thread over to his family so they can see how many people really cared for Pat outside of what they ever knew. Pat loved to tell stories and always wanted everyone else to tell stories. I think a great way we can honor Pat is to tell a story in his thread (also pinned at the top of the board).

The Pac 4 brilliant

MSE is such a lame name for a missile. Some lazy government person with no creative bone in their body.

Although it wouldn’t have taken much creativity to just call it PAC-4
I understand the reason for the lame name was pure politics. Calling it PAC-4 would have drawn lawsuits claiming a new missile was being developed without going through the competitive process.

But just making some "modest changes" to PAC-3 was OK
 
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