The Moon... it's a trap!

[Golbez]

No really... check it out. It's weird.

 

[Golbez]

 

[TheFiend]

I've long wondered what President Kennedy meant when he said "....we choose to go to the moon and do the other thing", (although it's also difficult to discern from the audio recording whether he said "...thing.", as in: the singular, or if instead he said the plural form, "...things.".)

For all I currently know, maybe it's already widely known, or common knowledge as to what exactly President K specifically meant by "...thing"/or "..things."(?)

 

[weaponoffreedom]

I've long wondered what President Kennedy meant when he said "....we choose to go to the moon and do the other thing", (although it's also difficult to discern from the audio recording whether he said "...thing.", as in: the singular, or if instead he said the plural form, "...things.".)

For all I currently know, maybe it's already widely known, or common knowledge as to what exactly President K specifically meant by "...thing"/or "..things."(?)

what do you think the other things were?

 

[TheFiend]

what do you think the other things were?

Dunno aye. All that happened well over a decade before I got here.

Hopin' ewes wood tell me

 

[Joe King]

I'd wondered about that too. After doing some reading on it, it seems pretty simple. In his speech he was comparing going to the Moon with all the other hard things we (humanity) have done and will continue to do into the future.

He made reference to us choosing to explore the Oceans, climb the highest mountain, fly the Atlantic, etc etc. Those things and hard things not yet done, are the "other" things. He was trying to lump it all together, as to why we should seek to do it.

He knew we were behind the Soviets with regards to space, and that was his way of saying we should do it, without saying we have to do it just to keep them from getting there first.

Rhetorical Analysis of Choosing to go to the Moon "and do the Other Things"

 

[Joe King]

What really needs examining, is what he meant when he said this:

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations."

"Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."


By the looks of things, the "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy" appears to be winning.

 

[Rva]

what do you think the other things were?

Masturbation

 

[weaponoffreedom]

I'd wondered about that too. After doing some reading on it, it seems pretty simple. In his speech he was comparing going to the Moon with all the other hard things we (humanity) have done and will continue to do into the future.

He made reference to us choosing to explore the Oceans, climb the highest mountain, fly the Atlantic, etc etc. Those things and hard things not yet done, are the "other" things. He was trying to lump it all together, as to why we should seek to do it.

He knew we were behind the Soviets with regards to space, and that was his way of saying we should do it, without saying we have to do it just to keep them from getting there first.

Rhetorical Analysis of Choosing to go to the Moon "and do the Other Things"

In short, the hard shit that we seeming cant do very well anymore.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Dunno aye. All that happened well over a decade before I got here.

Hopin' ewes wood tell me

see #9

 

[That Middle Aged Guy]

For the next month or so we have two moons incase you didn't hear.

Earth has two moons now, but is the 'second moon' visible from India? | - Times of India

Earth's gravity has captured a new temporary companion, Asteroid 2024 PT5, which is roughly the size of a bus. The mini moon will orbit Earth for abou

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Joe King]

In short, the hard shit that we seeming cant do very well anymore.

Pretty much, yea.



Here's another potus quote that more people need to investigate:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”​

― Woodrow Wilson

Same "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy" JFK spoke of?

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Pretty much, yea.



Here's another potus quote that more people need to investigate:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”​

― Woodrow Wilson

Same "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy" JFK spoke of?

Yeah, I mean it is a complex subject, hard to meaningfully discuss over typing, but i agree.

Eisenhower new or this issue with his "industrial military complex" statement. But that guy was war hero, so he could not be snubbed out.

Older dogs of the time looked at militaries like militaries of old, not what they have become today.

Unfortunately, you have to be the most dangerous guy on the block in the international community, and the way they saw things, while honorable, would have got alot of American killed in the later years of the Cold War. We might just be speaking Russian if they had their way. (the old dogs) like Patton for instance.

Warfare began to be operated like a business, and the rest is what we see today.

On a deep level, I understand it, but on another level, I would just rather lose, and keep my honor.

Not sure if you are picking up what I am putting down. But there it is.