Debate The Ideal Society

[fschmidt]

I want to describe the ideal society. Sex outside of marriage or prostitution should get the death penalty. No other crime deserves the death penalty, because no other crime does more harm to society. Prostitution should be subsidized by giving single men vouchers to pay for prostitutes. Men should have 100 prostitutes when they are young and then they should settle down and get married. Non-prostitute women should be virgins until marriage. Such a society would be a utopia where everyone would be satisfied and no energy would be wasted pursuing sex.

 

[AmericanViking]

How in the world does that comply with God’s Word?

 

[fschmidt]

How in the world does that comply with God’s Word?

It's much closer to the Old Testament than modern culture is. My suggestion is ideal but the Old Testament is good enough. The Old Testament recommends prostitution in Proverbs 6:26. Rather than killing those who have sex outside of marriage or prostitution, it forces them to marry. And adulterers are stoned to death. I could accept such a system, it's far better than any system of today.

 

[AmericanViking]

Proverbs 6:26 does not “recommend prostitution”—it warns against it as destructive.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 does not create a general policy of “forcing marriage instead of death” for sex outside marriage.

“Adulterers stoned… I could accept such a system”. So the entire New Testament is out the window now?

Your view isn’t “biblical realism”, it’s a rejection of the Gospel’s grace, heart-change, and equality in Christ (Gal 3:28). It keeps the Old Covenant’s sword while ignoring its fulfillment in Jesus. It creates the Pharisaical system Jesus condemned: external rules, two-tier women (virgins vs. state whores), and no room for repentance. This is a dystopian fantasy that blasphemes God.

Have you left Christianity completely?

 

[fschmidt]

Proverbs 6:26 does not “recommend prostitution”—it warns against it as destructive.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 does not create a general policy of “forcing marriage instead of death” for sex outside marriage.

“Adulterers stoned… I could accept such a system”. So the entire New Testament is out the window now?

Your view isn’t “biblical realism”, it’s a rejection of the Gospel’s grace, heart-change, and equality in Christ (Gal 3:28). It keeps the Old Covenant’s sword while ignoring its fulfillment in Jesus. It creates the Pharisaical system Jesus condemned: external rules, two-tier women (virgins vs. state whores), and no room for repentance. This is a dystopian fantasy that blasphemes God.

Have you left Christianity completely?

Of course the New Testament is out the window. Jesus really fucked up when he forgave the adulterous woman. I was never Christian.