• Pat Flood (@rebarcock) passed away 9/21/25. Pat played a huge role in encouraging the devolopmemt of this site and donated the very first dollar to get it started. Check the thread at the top of the board for the obituary and please feel free to pay your respects there. I am going to get all the content from that thread over to his family so they can see how many people really cared for Pat outside of what they ever knew. Pat loved to tell stories and always wanted everyone else to tell stories. I think a great way we can honor Pat is to tell a story in his thread (also pinned at the top of the board).

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As you may have heard on local and national news reports, natural gas prices have risen worldwide in recent months due to increased global demand and lagging natural gas production. While National Grid can’t control this global rise in natural gas prices, we are committed to helping you manage higher energy bills.​
Since natural gas plays a major role in generating electricity, there may also be an impact on your electric bill.​
What does this mean for our upstate New York customers?​
  • Assuming typical winter weather, natural gas bills are anticipated to be-on average-$46 a month* higher, or about $229 higher for the five month period compared to last year (November–March).
  • If you purchase your energy supply from an Energy Services Company, (ESCO), you will pay supply prices agreed to in your contract with that supplier.
*This estimate is based on current market conditions for upstate New York gas customers who use an average of 713 therms during the November to March winter heating season. You can find your gas usage history on the first page of your bill.​

From energy provider in upstate NY, after another one about 6 weeks ago. I expect another after Thanksgiving
 
As you may have heard on local and national news reports, natural gas prices have risen worldwide in recent months due to increased global demand and lagging natural gas production. While National Grid can’t control this global rise in natural gas prices, we are committed to helping you manage higher energy bills.​
Since natural gas plays a major role in generating electricity, there may also be an impact on your electric bill.​
What does this mean for our upstate New York customers?​
  • Assuming typical winter weather, natural gas bills are anticipated to be-on average-$46 a month* higher, or about $229 higher for the five month period compared to last year (November–March).
  • If you purchase your energy supply from an Energy Services Company, (ESCO), you will pay supply prices agreed to in your contract with that supplier.
*This estimate is based on current market conditions for upstate New York gas customers who use an average of 713 therms during the November to March winter heating season. You can find your gas usage history on the first page of your bill.​


From energy provider in upstate NY, after another one about 6 weeks ago. I expect another after Thanksgiving
Prices have skyrocketed since May. November closed at $6.22, today just shy of $5 for prompt month at Henry Hub.
Just a general takeaway - take it for what it is worth and completely my personal opinion. If your state has retail -you want to lock in rates as prices decline.
In the current environment you are better off sticking with the local utility. Not all states, but most require them to lock in a portion of their expected load per year for the next three years.
To be clear- as prices rise you will get a blended price of last three years compared to spot market price if choosing retail. Vice versa as prices decline
 
Trying to convince the court those jabs don’t meet the definition of a vaccine would be a tough sell especially with the CDC and the majority of the medical community saying they are vaccines. There is also precedence to consider specific to this jab which comes from the Houston hospital case:

In a scathing ruling Saturday, U.S. District Judge Lynn Hughes of Houston deemed lead plaintiff Jennifer Bridges' contention that the vaccines are "experimental and dangerous" to be false and otherwise irrelevant. He also found that her likening the vaccination requirement to the Nazis’ forced medical experimentation on concentration camp captives during the Holocaust to be "reprehensible."

Hughes also ruled that making vaccinations a condition of employment was not coercion, as Bridges contended.

"Bridges can freely choose to accept or refuse a COVID-19 vaccine; however, if she refuses, she will simply need to work somewhere else. If a worker refuses an assignment, changed office, earlier start time, or other directive, he may be properly fired. Every employment includes limits on the worker's behavior in exchange for remuneration. That is all part of the bargain," Hughes concluded.

Hughes is a Reagan appointee FWIW

There would also be the consideration that many other vaccines require booster shots:

Classic booster doses are the:


I agree- it would be tough sledding for sure. I generally think if you went to court it would be a circular argument and more than likely a loss. Thanks for the response
 
As you may have heard on local and national news reports, natural gas prices have risen worldwide in recent months due to increased global demand and lagging natural gas production. While National Grid can’t control this global rise in natural gas prices, we are committed to helping you manage higher energy bills.​
Since natural gas plays a major role in generating electricity, there may also be an impact on your electric bill.​
What does this mean for our upstate New York customers?​
  • Assuming typical winter weather, natural gas bills are anticipated to be-on average-$46 a month* higher, or about $229 higher for the five month period compared to last year (November–March).
  • If you purchase your energy supply from an Energy Services Company, (ESCO), you will pay supply prices agreed to in your contract with that supplier.
*This estimate is based on current market conditions for upstate New York gas customers who use an average of 713 therms during the November to March winter heating season. You can find your gas usage history on the first page of your bill.​


From energy provider in upstate NY, after another one about 6 weeks ago. I expect another after Thanksgiving
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