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Here’s the judge that immediately rejected Trump’s request. A hardcore leftist:

 
Had an argument like this with my wife recently.

Her: (lies about something)
Me: You lied to me about this
Her: I didn’t lie
Me: You said this, which clearly isn’t true
Her: I admit what I said was not true
Me: So you lied
Her: I didn’t lie!
Me: You just admitted what you said was not true. The definition of lying is saying something that isn’t true
Her: I already admitted what I said wasn’t true
Me: So you lied…
Her: I didn’t lie!!!!

Wanted to strangle her, it’s amazing how people will rationalize anything in their mind to refuse admitting to something. It’s maddening.

sounds like you married a liberal lawyer. Hehe.
 
FYI - I recently found a new patriot voice who resonates with me like very few others have. His name is Phil Godlewski. He states that he is THE senior ANON and devised the Q coms system, having personally written many drops himself. His intel is legit and so far, has been spot on.

The guy is as real as it gets and has usually 100-150k listeners/watchers on the vblog. Lately, he is able to say more than he used to be able to - as we are "nearing the end" - so there is increasingly interesting info revealed. For instance, he revealed on Saturday night the Federal Court's suspension of Biden's vax mandate, just announced today.

He also knows many details about Trump, though not always able to tell all and says the delays in the big reveal are strategic in nature.

He is doing a live broadcast at 8pm CST tonight at https://dlive.tv/PhilGodlewski. He had to move the time from 6pm CST due to a "massive" intel package that needed more time.

There will be a replay of it available for 72 hours @Rumble.

Edit: Time moved to 6pm CST tomorrow night - telegram post that promises, "you will not be disappointed."

There are many replays on Rumble to get a taste.

Take notes and share here please sir
 
Fun fact The term “Mad Hatter“ was from early hat makers. They used Mercury to shape hats. They didn’t wear gloves. Suffered from Mercury poisoning and went crazy. “MadHatter”.

Fun fact: the stereotype of southerners with stained teeth came about because of fluoride toxicity because there was so much of it naturally occurring in the well water, not tobacco use or bad hygiene. They actually had really strong teeth.
 
Had an argument like this with my wife recently.

Her: (lies about something)
Me: You lied to me about this
Her: I didn’t lie
Me: You said this, which clearly isn’t true
Her: I admit what I said was not true
Me: So you lied
Her: I didn’t lie!
Me: You just admitted what you said was not true. The definition of lying is saying something that isn’t true
Her: I already admitted what I said wasn’t true
Me: So you lied…
Her: I didn’t lie!!!!

Wanted to strangle her, it’s amazing how people will rationalize anything in their mind to refuse admitting to something. It’s maddening.
Far be it for me to get between you and your wife in an argument, but there is a difference between a lie and being wrong. If it was something she KNEW AT THE TIME SHE SAID IT that it was false, then it's a lie. Otherwise it's not.
 
Had an argument like this with my wife recently.

Her: (lies about something)
Me: You lied to me about this
Her: I didn’t lie
Me: You said this, which clearly isn’t true
Her: I admit what I said was not true
Me: So you lied
Her: I didn’t lie!
Me: You just admitted what you said was not true. The definition of lying is saying something that isn’t true
Her: I already admitted what I said wasn’t true
Me: So you lied…
Her: I didn’t lie!!!!

Wanted to strangle her, it’s amazing how people will rationalize anything in their mind to refuse admitting to something. It’s maddening.
What else is she "not lying" to you about?
 
Not sure what they have ruled on during this pandemic, but their big historical case from something like 1908, simply ruled that a small fine could be imposed for refusal to be vaccinated, right? That is what I have heard from Tim Pool and others, anyway. A small fine is VASTLY different from not being alowed to go places in public, and getting fired from your job.
No Jacobson vs Mass decision said this:

Justice John Marshall Harlan delivered the decision for a 7–2 majority that the Massachusetts law did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court held that "in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand" and that "[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others."

Furthermore, the Court held that mandatory vaccinations are neither arbitrary nor oppressive so long as they do not "go so far beyond what was reasonably required for the safety of the public".

During the time in question Mass levied a fine and required people carry proof of vaccination with them. That doesn’t mean that’s all the farther a state is permitted to go (as stated above) but also because it’s generally understood states have broad authority over public health in their state under the 10th Amendment.

The other thing to consider is why people are losing their job. Some are losing it because a private entity is enforcing a policy under the idea of protecting their employees and the people they service from reasonable harm (typically legal / must follow local, state, and federal laws)(DOJ ruled their is no federal law the prohibits this type of action: LINK). Others are losing it because they work for entities that are regulated by the states or municipalities who have themselves passed down requirements / mandates.

Examples would be the Texas nurses who lost their case when they sued a hospital (private entity: LINK) that required the jabs and the Maine health care workers / New York health care workers and teachers who all lost their cases to due to state & municipality issued regulations (SCOTUS refused to intervene in the Maine and New York cases: LINK / LINK / LINK ). The courts, including the SCOTUS, went so far as to say states did not need to consider religious exemptions in their orders.

Another major group we’ve seen bring suit was college students in Indiana and here again the SCOTUS refused to intervene (LINK).

None of the above should be confused with what Puddin is trying to do thru OSHA. The states suing Puddin are arguing it places and undue burden and that Congress didn’t delegate that level of authority to OSHA under law. Being a federal regulatory body they aren’t protected under the previous precedent set be the cases and in fact are harmed by it (not state / 10A). This is why OSHA is trying to fine businesses into submission while at the same time push them to adopt the policies as individual businesses (see above).
 
No Jacobson vs Mass decision said this:

Justice John Marshall Harlan delivered the decision for a 7–2 majority that the Massachusetts law did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court held that "in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand" and that "[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others."

Furthermore, the Court held that mandatory vaccinations are neither arbitrary nor oppressive so long as they do not "go so far beyond what was reasonably required for the safety of the public".

During the time in question Mass levied a fine and required people carry proof of vaccination with them. That doesn’t mean that’s all the farther a state is permitted to go (as stated above) but also because it’s generally understood states have broad authority over public health in their state under the 10th Amendment.

The other thing to consider is why people are losing their job. Some are losing it because a private entity is enforcing a policy under the idea of protecting their employees and the people they service from reasonable harm (typically legal / must follow local, state, and federal laws)(DOJ ruled their is no federal law the prohibits this type of action: LINK). Others are losing it because they work for entities that are regulated by the states or municipalities who have themselves passed down requirements / mandates.

Examples would be the Texas nurses who lost their case when they sued a hospital (private entity: LINK) that required the jabs and the Maine health care workers / New York health care workers and teachers who all lost their cases to due to state & municipality issued regulations (SCOTUS refused to intervene in the Maine and New York cases: LINK / LINK / LINK ). The courts, including the SCOTUS, went so far as to say states did not need to consider religious exemptions in their orders.

Another major group we’ve seen bring suit was college students in Indiana and here again the SCOTUS refused to intervene (LINK).

None of the above should be confused with what Puddin is trying to do thru OSHA. The states suing Puddin are arguing it places and undue burden and that Congress didn’t delegate that level of authority to OSHA under law. Being a federal regulatory body they aren’t protected under the previous precedent set be the cases and in fact are harmed by it (not state / 10A). This is why OSHA is trying to fine businesses into submission while at the same time push them to adopt the policies as individual businesses (see above).

Justice John Marshall Harlan delivered the decision for a 7–2 majority that the Massachusetts law did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court held that "in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand" and that "[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others."

Furthermore, the Court held that mandatory vaccinations are neither arbitrary nor oppressive so long as they do not "go so far beyond what was reasonably required for the safety of the public".

Those are pretty broad statements that would make it a tough case to win.
 
No Jacobson vs Mass decision said this:

Justice John Marshall Harlan delivered the decision for a 7–2 majority that the Massachusetts law did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court held that "in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand" and that "[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others."

Furthermore, the Court held that mandatory vaccinations are neither arbitrary nor oppressive so long as they do not "go so far beyond what was reasonably required for the safety of the public".

During the time in question Mass levied a fine and required people carry proof of vaccination with them. That doesn’t mean that’s all the farther a state is permitted to go (as stated above) but also because it’s generally understood states have broad authority over public health in their state under the 10th Amendment.

The other thing to consider is why people are losing their job. Some are losing it because a private entity is enforcing a policy under the idea of protecting their employees and the people they service from reasonable harm (typically legal / must follow local, state, and federal laws)(DOJ ruled their is no federal law the prohibits this type of action: LINK). Others are losing it because they work for entities that are regulated by the states or municipalities who have themselves passed down requirements / mandates.

Examples would be the Texas nurses who lost their case when they sued a hospital (private entity: LINK) that required the jabs and the Maine health care workers / New York health care workers and teachers who all lost their cases to due to state & municipality issued regulations (SCOTUS refused to intervene in the Maine and New York cases: LINK / LINK / LINK ). The courts, including the SCOTUS, went so far as to say states did not need to consider religious exemptions in their orders.

Another major group we’ve seen bring suit was college students in Indiana and here again the SCOTUS refused to intervene (LINK).

None of the above should be confused with what Puddin is trying to do thru OSHA. The states suing Puddin are arguing it places and undue burden and that Congress didn’t delegate that level of authority to OSHA under law. Being a federal regulatory body they aren’t protected under the previous precedent set be the cases and in fact are harmed by it (not state / 10A). This is why OSHA is trying to fine businesses into submission while at the same time push them to adopt the policies as individual businesses (see above).
This is Progressivism

If a Progressive determines something to be necessary, you have to do t....but it will be reasonable, they promise!!

Thank you Judge!

Thank you Amerca 1st!

Feeling protected and apart of the greater good*
 
Justice John Marshall Harlan delivered the decision for a 7–2 majority that the Massachusetts law did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court held that "in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand" and that "[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others."

Furthermore, the Court held that mandatory vaccinations are neither arbitrary nor oppressive so long as they do not "go so far beyond what was reasonably required for the safety of the public".

Those are pretty broad statements that would make it a tough case to win.
Which case is that?
Game over. 99.8% survival. This vax is not needed for safety of the public.
You and I might feel that way but it’s up to the elected leaders of the states, and the agencies empowered by those legislatures, to make the decisions of what’s needed for public safety. As stated in Jacobson the “general public expresses their demands” and expectations for public health via elections and who they empower to execute their laws.

I’m pretty sure every state is still in a declared state of emergency (not that they need a state of emergency declaration to do what they’re doing) although I don’t keep track of every state’s position on that topic (Maybe Florida or OK?).

All that makes me thrilled to live a red state as opposed to a purple or blue state. I think we’ll see a continued exodus from deep blue states like CA and NY because of these heavy handed mandates.
 

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