Master Thread Dance Your Cares Away/Fraggle/Law Abiding Citizens

[denn]

You make the mistake of believing that these people care about results. They do not. Results don't matter; intentions do. These people also have a remarkable ability to blame others for their failures. It's never their fault, you see. Those two qualities are a toxic combination.

Yeah, I was trying to be facetious. I would never say this but NYC was better off with Bloomberg. He understood the value of an education system based on results for the most part. DeBlasio is a communist and wants the city to act accordingly. That has been obvious since he announced he was running for Mayor.

 

[ETNVol]

The BBC published a scientific article "debunking" the effectiveness of ivermectin. Dr. John Campbell dissects it.

"The lead author of this paper that the BBC is relying on is Jack Lawrence......the '1' beside his name relates to St. George's University Hospital of London, presumably a professor or senior academic there....well no, actually, he's a student."

"This academic group have apparently looked at 26 studies, but the 26 studies they look at are not in this article. In fact, this article contains no research data, at all....It's basically an opinion piece."

 

[PowerMEGA]

Look at this garbage

"overwhelming" evidence for the "effectiveness" of the vaccines??


What about the overwhelming evidence that this is a non factor for most people

The overwhelming evidence for the superiority of natural immunity....common sense also suffices here

The overwhelming evidence that government, media and the medicine innoculation complex are not to be trusted

The overwhelming evidence of general good health

You people are really struggling to hang on

Good thing for you, none of this relies upon persuasion at this point, only coercion

Congrats on the vax, it's the best; stop Asian hate

And truthfullyy lol @ any data at this point whether it confirms or challenges previously held views...."there are lies, damned lies...."

I agree with the other overwhelming evidence you mention here too. I think all those things are true too. I just also recognize that there is a ton of data from all around the world that show that the vaccines do lower the risk of severe disease and death compared to unvaccinated people.

You also make many incorrect assumptions about me. I'm sure my sentiments against vaccine mandates are at least as strong as yours. My own sister suffered a severe reaction to the vaccine that will get reported to VAERS by her PCP (who also ordered her to never get a booster). I believe natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity, which is why I am unvaccinated. You know what they say about people who make assumptions about others...

If you're unwilling to objectively examine the data because anything that doesn't comport with your existing biases are just "likes, damned lies", you leave yourself vulnerable to manipulation and ignorance. This entire forum is built on the hopes that people here do not do this.

 

[ShaolinNole]

At what point do these folks realize that throwing money at a cause that is not actually having positive results and taking opportunity away from one group and handing to another is not the answer? Maybe I am off on this but....

I always say they think their failures are because they did not go far enough left, when the opposite is in fact true.

 

[RollyInRaleigh]

I agree with the other overwhelming evidence you mention here too. I think all those things are true too. I just also recognize that there is a ton of data from all around the world that show that the vaccines do lower the risk of severe disease and death compared to unvaccinated people.

You also make many incorrect assumptions about me. I'm sure my sentiments against vaccine mandates are at least as strong as yours. My own sister suffered a severe reaction to the vaccine that will get reported to VAERS by her PCP (who also ordered her to never get a booster). I believe natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity, which is why I am unvaccinated. You know what they say about people who make assumptions about others...

If you're unwilling to objectively examine the data because anything that doesn't comport with your existing biases are just "likes, damned lies", you leave yourself vulnerable to manipulation and ignorance. This entire forum is built on the hopes that people here do not do this.

The fact that the vaccine is truly not a vaccine...to the point that they felt it necessary to change the definition of vaccine to suit their purposes, the fact that they are obviously trying to hide the adverse effects and deaths, the fact that they are trying to keep successful prophylactics away from the people, the fact that they keep using the same unsuccessful protocols in hospitals, and the fact that the survival rate is in the upper 90’s really pretty much cancels any argument for the jab with me...but that’s just me.

 

[t_money86]

The fact that the vaccine is truly not a vaccine...to the point that they felt it necessary to change the definition of vaccine to suit their purposes, the fact that they are obviously trying to hide the adverse effects and deaths, the fact that they are trying to keep successful prophylactics away from the people, the fact that they keep using the same unsuccessful protocols in hospitals, and the fact that the survival rate is in the upper 90’s really pretty much cancels any argument for the jab with me...but that’s just me.

1000% this.

 

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[denn]

The fact that the vaccine is truly not a vaccine...to the point that they felt it necessary to change the definition of vaccine to suit their purposes, the fact that they are obviously trying to hide the adverse effects and deaths, the fact that they are trying to keep successful prophylactics away from the people, the fact that they keep using the same unsuccessful protocols in hospitals, and the fact that the survival rate is in the upper 90’s really pretty much cancels any argument for the jab with me...but that’s just me.

I agree. I would like to add something ese to that; the mfg's are not liable for anything adverse that happens with this shot. Once that happens then I think it would be more reasonable t consider getting the shot. It won't happen for me one second before that happens though.

 

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[Cincinattus91]

And by "vax" you mean saline shot.

Correct

 

[America 1st]

 

[America 1st]

 

[PowerMEGA]

The fact that the vaccine is truly not a vaccine...to the point that they felt it necessary to change the definition of vaccine to suit their purposes, the fact that they are obviously trying to hide the adverse effects and deaths, the fact that they are trying to keep successful prophylactics away from the people, the fact that they keep using the same unsuccessful protocols in hospitals, and the fact that the survival rate is in the upper 90’s really pretty much cancels any argument for the jab with me...but that’s just me.

All of this is true, especially in the US. I agree that it all raises many suspicions about the government and medical community. For me, the most damning thing is the intentional exclusion of prior infection in the discussion. Other countries do not do this.

 

[Cincinattus91]

I agree with the other overwhelming evidence you mention here too. I think all those things are true too. I just also recognize that there is a ton of data from all around the world that show that the vaccines do lower the risk of severe disease and death compared to unvaccinated people.

You also make many incorrect assumptions about me. I'm sure my sentiments against vaccine mandates are at least as strong as yours. My own sister suffered a severe reaction to the vaccine that will get reported to VAERS by her PCP (who also ordered her to never get a booster). I believe natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity, which is why I am unvaccinated. You know what they say about people who make assumptions about others...

If you're unwilling to objectively examine the data because anything that doesn't comport with your existing biases are just "likes, damned lies", you leave yourself vulnerable to manipulation and ignorance. This entire forum is built on the hopes that people here do not do this.

I am very willing to objectively examine as I am objectively interested in living a healthy life

We are all vulnerable to manipulation and ignorance

At this point, nearly 2 years into the PANDEMIC, I'm generally unmoved by the "data" and the "science" and the "studies"

You can sit there and mull them over and unbelievably still be a vax sympathizer even tho you have seen catastrophic effects in your own family

Ultimately, you are pro natural immunity and anti mandate so we agree on what we must agree

People like us cannot ignore the vaccine marketing operation and therefore it is not a goal. The vaxxers, one the other hand.....

If we we're truly insecure in our beliefs, we'd simply get the vax and assume the "conveniences" that come with that first class status

I'm not smart enough to filter true data from the misleading/outright dishonest data. So I rely upon natural immunity, general good health and diet

Meanwhile, geniuses, like you will "soberly" and "objectively" examine the data while we are awash in a sea of "adverse reactions" from a rushed, hyper consequential vaccine developed, apparently, to eradicate a virus with nearly a 100% survival rate that is seemingly combated with any number of vitamins and other over the counter treatments

This is the time to stop this madness

I don't want a cdc study on vaccine effectiveness to fall put of your pocket while you reach for your vaccine passport as you enter the doctor's office to drop off your sister

May God and the wonder of natural medicine cure her and all those who have taken these potions in good-faith

 

[AC2021]

 

[t_money86]

Our resident pfizer plant disagrees with this

 

[Sgfeer]

Nothing to see here

Art gallery repping Hunter Biden received $500K federal COVID loan, records show

A federal COVID loan to the art gallery repping Hunter Biden more than doubled after his father took office, records show.

nypost.com

 

[Long Cat V2.0]

The data for this is overwhelming at this point. Can you provide data that shows that the vaccines do not reduce severe infection and death?


I have just as much scepticism as you do. I also look to data from other countries, like UK, Iceland, and Israel. Their data all tell the same story.

Like I said, the data that the vaccines have some effectiveness is overwhelming. It's OK to say that and also have concerns about reactions, side effects, and long term risks about the vaccines. It's OK to say that most people would be better off from a risk perspective to get the vaccine while having very strong feelings that nobody should be forced to get a vaccine.

My own sister fainted 20 minutes after the shot and was rushed to the hospital. Her doctor ordered her to never get a booster. I myself have not been vaccinated. Trust me, I have at least as much (likely more) skepticism about the vaccines as you, but you simply have your head in the sand if you refuse to believe that there is any evidence of some level of effectiveness of the vaccines.

That’s not how this works. It’s incumbent on the vaxxers and their supporters to demonstrate the long term safety and effectiveness of a vaccine. They haven’t, and how could they when sufficient time to study the long term effects vaccine hasn’t passed? As for effectiveness, they are already talking about boosters. Doesn’t inspire much confidence.

I don’t believe the CDC. Israel and UK have had even more stringent requirements than the US. Why should I believe their numbers? Take it from the WHO? Nope. Trust the companies making billions on selling vaccines? Trust the media and politicians who get paid by those selling vaccines? I don’t trust any of these people and can’t imagine how any critical thinking person could.

I do understand getting vaccinated if you feel you are at a high risk of dying from covid and are willing to accept the risks of the vaccine. Go for it. Just leave me out of it. And that includes asking me to bu in to their narrative.

 

[America 1st]

 

[Truth Wrangler]

 

[Zgdaf]

They will probably make more on unemployment and less stress.

I won’t lie.. I only watched because of reporter.

 

[America 1st]

 

[s-ou-thern]

The fact that the vaccine is truly not a vaccine...to the point that they felt it necessary to change the definition of vaccine to suit their purposes, the fact that they are obviously trying to hide the adverse effects and deaths, the fact that they are trying to keep successful prophylactics away from the people, the fact that they keep using the same unsuccessful protocols in hospitals, and the fact that the survival rate is in the upper 90’s really pretty much cancels any argument for the jab with me...but that’s just me.

The “they” you speak of are evil pieces of shit and habitual liars. No wonder many with a brain don’t trust any of their studies, advice, or mandates.

They have never acted in the interest of humanity. They see humans as lab rats and piggy banks.

 

[s-ou-thern]

I am very willing to objectively examine as I am objectively interested in living a healthy life

We are all vulnerable to manipulation and ignorance

At this point, nearly 2 years into the PANDEMIC, I'm generally unmoved by the "data" and the "science" and the "studies"

You can sit there and mull them over and unbelievably still be a vax sympathizer even tho you have seen catastrophic effects in your own family

Ultimately, you are pro natural immunity and anti mandate so we agree on what we must agree

People like us cannot ignore the vaccine marketing operation and therefore it is not a goal. The vaxxers, one the other hand.....

If we we're truly insecure in our beliefs, we'd simply get the vax and assume the "conveniences" that come with that first class status

I'm not smart enough to filter true data from the misleading/outright dishonest data. So I rely upon natural immunity, general good health and diet

Meanwhile, geniuses, like you will "soberly" and "objectively" examine the data while we are awash in a sea of "adverse reactions" from a rushed, hyper consequential vaccine developed, apparently, to eradicate a virus with nearly a 100% survival rate that is seemingly combated with any number of vitamins and other over the counter treatments

This is the time to stop this madness

I don't want a cdc study on vaccine effectiveness to fall put of your pocket while you reach for your vaccine passport as you enter the doctor's office to drop off your sister

May God and the wonder of natural medicine cure her and all those who have taken these potions in good-faith

You may have misspelled “$cience”

 

[America 1st]

 

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[Cletusnow]

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[Pillow Pants]

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I have 2 electric cars - both Teslas. I don't have them to be green. I have them because they're fantastic, they're fun, and fuck the Middle East. I really don't understand why more people aren't getting on board strictly to take away from the Middle East and the oil reliance.

 

[America 1st]

I have 2 electric cars - both Teslas. I don't have them to be green. I have them because they're fantastic, they're fun, and fuck the Middle East. I really don't understand why more people aren't getting on board strictly to take away from the Middle East and the oil reliance.

In my area 9/10 people who can afford spending 45k+ on a vehicle are buying a truck.

The other 1/10 are buying a corvette or Ferrari.

Likely depends what portion of the cuntree you live in how popular electric is (especially Tesla). Here in drilling country we view anything that weakens petro and nat gas as an attack on jobs.

 

[Cletusnow]

I have 2 electric cars - both Teslas. I don't have them to be green. I have them because they're fantastic, they're fun, and fuck the Middle East. I really don't understand why more people aren't getting on board strictly to take away from the Middle East and the oil reliance.

The US, prior to dumb uncle Joe, produced more than enough oil and natural gas to be energy independent from the Middle East, fwiw.

 

[t_money86]

I have 2 electric cars - both Teslas. I don't have them to be green. I have them because they're fantastic, they're fun, and fuck the Middle East. I really don't understand why more people aren't getting on board strictly to take away from the Middle East and the oil reliance.

Runaway battery fires could be one reason. That shit is scary

 

[America 1st]

 

[AmericanViking]

The BBC published a scientific article "debunking" the effectiveness of ivermectin. Dr. John Campbell dissects it.

"The lead author of this paper that the BBC is relying on is Jack Lawrence......the '1' beside his name relates to St. George's University Hospital of London, presumably a professor or senior academic there....well no, actually, he's a student."

"This academic group have apparently looked at 26 studies, but the 26 studies they look at are not in this article. In fact, this article contains no research data, at all....It's basically an opinion piece."

No they didn’t. But they can imagine what it would be like if they did.

 

[AmericanViking]

Oh sure. Milley can do it but Lord forbid an underling do it.

 

[AmericanViking]

“Accidentally”

 

[racernhra]

I had racing heart for a bit after my second shot. Now it’s just a strange flutter once a day or so. I also have tinnitus that I’ve been rocking since May. Pfizer vax is trash. I got the delta a month ago. It was a cold with loss of taste and smell for me for a couple of days.

My wife has had these EXACT issues. She’s the only one that took it. Yesterday she went to urgent care with severe head congestion. The Dr. asked her if she had been told that she has a heart murmur.

My heart sank when she told me. She has no idea that the vax is causing issues such as this and I’m not mentioning it although I am very upset about it.