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Excellent video interview with a fully awake NYU professor of media studies on the propaganda of the last 20 months. Comes across as highly rational throughout. Does touch on alien invasion (aka project blue beam) so that’s wild for a mainstream guy to be discussing it.

This has been one of the best watches I have seen on everything that is going on. I see the link at the end but I have used two devices trying to copy it, and I am trying not to assume they aren't censoring anything (probably a bad assumption), but I cannot find a way to share this. Can you send a forwardable link? TIA
 
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This has been one of the best watches I have seen on everything that is going on. I see the link at the end but I have used two devices trying to copy it, and I am trying not to assume they aren't censoring anything (probably a bad assumption), but I cannot find a way to share this. Can you send a forwardable link? TIA
Just remove the extra dot in ..com
https://www.bitchute..com/video/uRkSUA3V5V2L/
 
I’m still waiting on the data about the less severe sickness for the vaccinated. I haven’t seen it.

Also we still testing the test subjects with PCR tests as lower cycles than the control group? Seems like that would matter too.
The data for this is overwhelming at this point. Can you provide data that shows that the vaccines do not reduce severe infection and death?

They stopped tracking cases if you are vaccinated unless it requires hospitalization. As we know, hospitalization rate for covid is, what, less than 5% for the gen pop? That would make you think a high percentage of vaccinated cases aren’t reported as such.

Not sure why we should trust the government statistics now when they’ve been garbage for the last year and a half.
I have just as much scepticism as you do. I also look to data from other countries, like UK, Iceland, and Israel. Their data all tell the same story.

Like I said, the data that the vaccines have some effectiveness is overwhelming. It's OK to say that and also have concerns about reactions, side effects, and long term risks about the vaccines. It's OK to say that most people would be better off from a risk perspective to get the vaccine while having very strong feelings that nobody should be forced to get a vaccine.

My own sister fainted 20 minutes after the shot and was rushed to the hospital. Her doctor ordered her to never get a booster. I myself have not been vaccinated. Trust me, I have at least as much (likely more) skepticism about the vaccines as you, but you simply have your head in the sand if you refuse to believe that there is any evidence of some level of effectiveness of the vaccines.
 
The data for this is overwhelming at this point. Can you provide data that shows that the vaccines do not reduce severe infection and death?


I have just as much scepticism as you do. I also look to data from other countries, like UK, Iceland, and Israel. Their data all tell the same story.

Like I said, the data that the vaccines have some effectiveness is overwhelming. It's OK to say that and also have concerns about reactions, side effects, and long term risks about the vaccines. It's OK to say that most people would be better off from a risk perspective to get the vaccine while having very strong feelings that nobody should be forced to get a vaccine.

My own sister fainted 20 minutes after the shot and was rushed to the hospital. Her doctor ordered her to never get a booster. I myself have not been vaccinated. Trust me, I have at least as much (likely more) skepticism about the vaccines as you, but you simply have your head in the sand if you refuse to believe that there is any evidence of some level of effectiveness of the vaccines.

For me, I struggle with the word “effective”…

We know as a matter of fact:

1) Vaccinated people can still get SARS-COV2
2) Vaccinated people can still spread SARS-COV2

So I’m assuming your perspective on “effectiveness” refers to the diminished symptoms of SARS-COV2 in the vaccinated? If so, fine. But, the purpose of a “vaccine” (which neither of the options actually are) is to eradicate the virus.

Current inoculations are not eradicating SARS-COV2. Therefore, I have dissent on it being “effective”…
 


^^why not all ^^



 
Could use some prayers coming towards my household, GoodPeople. Wife had surgery two weeks ago to remove a reoccurring polyp in her uterus, as we're pushing towards trying to have kids while fighting her endometriosis. Oncologist called back and said the tissue biopsy was precancerous. While its good we got to it, and it appears not to have spread....its still a gut punch and makes the push for kids a little more pressurized. Not how I envisioned our weekend to start.
Prayers 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💪👍
 



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They actually placed G&T programs in underserved schools so that they would have more involved parents bringing up the quality of bad schools here. That was a decent idea from Giuliani administration. Once the school is up to standard they moved the G&T programs, though. Both my kids got into them but our local elementary was rated better on all levels and was only blocks from our home and had very involved parents. The last two years they just blatantly started discriminating against kids in order to diversify the schools in favor of bullshit “equity” by reserving something like 25% of enrollment in better schools for low income kids.

My older kid is escaping schools here before she’s impacted by any of this insanity. If my younger kid is accepted into a shitty high school because of this bullshit, we will move. If they try to require vax I will pull them both immediately.
 
Just remove the extra dot in ..com
https://www.bitchute..com/video/uRkSUA3V5V2L/

This dude is spot on.

Also there is no doubt they are gearing up for some fake alien invasion type deal. Major uptick in mainstream media talking about it, I have also noticed more “independent videos” showing up on social media.

My question is this, does the vaccine tie into the fake invasion/alien deal? Is this the reason for the huge push?
 
They actually placed G&T programs in underserved schools so that they would have more involved parents bringing up the quality of bad schools here. That was a decent idea from Giuliani administration. Once the school is up to standard they moved the G&T programs, though. Both my kids got into them but our local elementary was rated better on all levels and was only blocks from our home and had very involved parents. The last two years they just blatantly started discriminating against kids in order to diversify the schools in favor of bullshit “equity” by reserving something like 25% of enrollment in better schools for low income kids.

My older kid is escaping schools here before she’s impacted by any of this insanity. If my younger kid is accepted into a shitty high school because of this bullshit, we will move. If they try to require vax I will pull them both immediately.
At what point do these folks realize that throwing money at a cause that is not actually having positive results and taking opportunity away from one group and handing to another is not the answer? Maybe I am off on this but....
 
For me, I struggle with the word “effective”…

We know as a matter of fact:

1) Vaccinated people can still get SARS-COV2
2) Vaccinated people can still spread SARS-COV2

So I’m assuming your perspective on “effectiveness” refers to the diminished symptoms of SARS-COV2 in the vaccinated? If so, fine. But, the purpose of a “vaccine” (which neither of the options actually are) is to eradicate the virus.

Current inoculations are not eradicating SARS-COV2. Therefore, I have dissent on it being “effective”…
I think you have a mostly fair take on this even if I'll disagree with our definitions. It is true that these Covid vaccines do not behave like other vaccines (polio, measles, etc).

One thing to know is that I don't think we'll ever see an injected vaccine for a respiratory virus that behaves the way you describe because the immunity they induce is found in the bloodstream and not at the point of infection (upper respiratory tract). The next generation of Covid vaccines will likely be intranasal sprays, which would likely have more of an "effectiveness" that you describe, but the respiratory viruses mutate a lot more too. Polio, measles, etc, do not mutate like coronaviruses and influenza viruses.

It was never my understanding that these Covid vaccines will *prevent* infection. Whenever I heard someone say that, I knew they didn't know what they were talking about. No vaccine, or natural immunity for that matter, can prevent infection. The correct question is: WHEN an infection occurs, what happens? In the case of a vaccinated person, the answer is: not much until the infection reaches the lower respiratory tract, where the blood barrier is. At that point, the immunity that these vaccines provide can finally be brought to bear against the infection. This is why a vaccinated person can get infected and spread the virus almost as much as an unvaccinated person.

This is also a reason why natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity. People with natural immunity have mucosal antibodies in their upper respiratory tract in addition to the antibodies in the bloodstream. Vaccine immunity really only exists in the bloodstream.

In short, your comparison between the Covid vaccines and other vaccines is not quite an apples/apples comparison.
 
At what point do these folks realize that throwing money at a cause that is not actually having positive results and taking opportunity away from one group and handing to another is not the answer? Maybe I am off on this but....
You make the mistake of believing that these people care about results. They do not. Results don't matter; intentions do. These people also have a remarkable ability to blame others for their failures. It's never their fault, you see. Those two qualities are a toxic combination.
 
The data for this is overwhelming at this point. Can you provide data that shows that the vaccines do not reduce severe infection and death?


I have just as much scepticism as you do. I also look to data from other countries, like UK, Iceland, and Israel. Their data all tell the same story.

Like I said, the data that the vaccines have some effectiveness is overwhelming. It's OK to say that and also have concerns about reactions, side effects, and long term risks about the vaccines. It's OK to say that most people would be better off from a risk perspective to get the vaccine while having very strong feelings that nobody should be forced to get a vaccine.

My own sister fainted 20 minutes after the shot and was rushed to the hospital. Her doctor ordered her to never get a booster. I myself have not been vaccinated. Trust me, I have at least as much (likely more) skepticism about the vaccines as you, but you simply have your head in the sand if you refuse to believe that there is any evidence of some level of effectiveness of the vaccines.
Look at this garbage

"overwhelming" evidence for the "effectiveness" of the vaccines??


What about the overwhelming evidence that this is a non factor for most people

The overwhelming evidence for the superiority of natural immunity....common sense also suffices here

The overwhelming evidence that government, media and the medicine innoculation complex are not to be trusted

The overwhelming evidence of general good health

You people are really struggling to hang on

Good thing for you, none of this relies upon persuasion at this point, only coercion

Congrats on the vax, it's the best; stop Asian hate

And truthfullyy lol @ any data at this point whether it confirms or challenges previously held views...."there are lies, damned lies...."
 
I think you have a mostly fair take on this even if I'll disagree with our definitions. It is true that these Covid vaccines do not behave like other vaccines (polio, measles, etc).

One thing to know is that I don't think we'll ever see an injected vaccine for a respiratory virus that behaves the way you describe because the immunity they induce is found in the bloodstream and not at the point of infection (upper respiratory tract). The next generation of Covid vaccines will likely be intranasal sprays, which would likely have more of an "effectiveness" that you describe, but the respiratory viruses mutate a lot more too. Polio, measles, etc, do not mutate like coronaviruses and influenza viruses.

It was never my understanding that these Covid vaccines will *prevent* infection. Whenever I heard someone say that, I knew they didn't know what they were talking about. No vaccine, or natural immunity for that matter, can prevent infection. The correct question is: WHEN an infection occurs, what happens? In the case of a vaccinated person, the answer is: not much until the infection reaches the lower respiratory tract, where the blood barrier is. At that point, the immunity that these vaccines provide can finally be brought to bear against the infection. This is why a vaccinated person can get infected and spread the virus almost as much as an unvaccinated person.

This is also a reason why natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity. People with natural immunity have mucosal antibodies in their upper respiratory tract in addition to the antibodies in the bloodstream. Vaccine immunity really only exists in the bloodstream.

In short, your comparison between the Covid vaccines and other vaccines is not quite an apples/apples comparison.
Your last sentence sums up the entire msm propaganda concerning this "vaccine" and why they literally changed the definition to fit this gene therapy drug.

With all the censorship going on 95% of people aren't aware of this. So when arguing effectiveness of this vax it falls on the majority's definition of this actually being like a real vaccine. These are the terms they have set and required us to squabble about. It's a bad faith argument impossible for us to expose the truth.

You want to make the argument that it's a good gene therapy drug? Go for it. But don't tell us it's a good vaccines though.
 

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