• Pat Flood (@rebarcock) passed away 9/21/25. Pat played a huge role in encouraging the devolopmemt of this site and donated the very first dollar to get it started. Check the thread at the top of the board for the obituary and please feel free to pay your respects there. I am going to get all the content from that thread over to his family so they can see how many people really cared for Pat outside of what they ever knew. Pat loved to tell stories and always wanted everyone else to tell stories. I think a great way we can honor Pat is to tell a story in his thread (also pinned at the top of the board).

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Good Morning,

I could use clarification on a couple of things. Some help would be great as I am spending a lot of time and energy trying to help people see what’s happening and calling people to action. I can see the tide turning and hope you all are doing the same. Keep your heads up, we are winning the arguments if we enter them.

Anyway, if you could help me with answers these questions I’d appreciate it.

  • After an election happens, does fraud have to be proven in order for the result to stand, or if it can’t be proven that there wasn’t fraud should the result not stand? I remember being told it was the latter, and if so I think this should inform our arguments. People in think Biden won are under the impression that I need evidence that shows otherwise and I don’t believe that is the case. A source or good explanation here would be great.
  • I brought up the contrast between Scheller and Vindman yesterday, and was told that Vindman followed the law and that’s why he was able to keep his job despite compromising his command. I was under the impression that if you compromise your command you are removed from your job, regardless as to whether you are following the law and even if you are doing the right thing (not saying he is). Can someone please advise on why Vindman should have been removed, if he should have?
  • Speaking of Scheller, his argument is essentially that orders given were so obviously bad that someone in the chain of command should have refused. What is the line between the expectation that orders are followed, and the idea that a soldier has a responsibility to not follow orders that will have a catastrophic outcome?

I would appreciate any help and engagement I can get on this. We need to win the arguments in our circles and to get people moving in the right direction. I suggest we help one another as much as possible.

Thanks!
 
Good Morning,

I could use clarification on a couple of things. Some help would be great as I am spending a lot of time and energy trying to help people see what’s happening and calling people to action. I can see the tide turning and hope you all are doing the same. Keep your heads up, we are winning the arguments if we enter them.

Anyway, if you could help me with answers these questions I’d appreciate it.

  • After an election happens, does fraud have to be proven in order for the result to stand, or if it can’t be proven that there wasn’t fraud should the result not stand? I remember being told it was the latter, and if so I think this should inform our arguments. People in think Biden won are under the impression that I need evidence that shows otherwise and I don’t believe that is the case. A source or good explanation here would be great.
  • I brought up the contrast between Scheller and Vindman yesterday, and was told that Vindman followed the law and that’s why he was able to keep his job despite compromising his command. I was under the impression that if you compromise your command you are removed from your job, regardless as to whether you are following the law and even if you are doing the right thing (not saying he is). Can someone please advise on why Vindman should have been removed, if he should have?
  • Speaking of Scheller, his argument is essentially that orders given were so obviously bad that someone in the chain of command should have refused. What is the line between the expectation that orders are followed, and the idea that a soldier has a responsibility to not follow orders that will have a catastrophic outcome?

I would appreciate any help and engagement I can get on this. We need to win the arguments in our circles and to get people moving in the right direction. I suggest we help one another as much as possible.

Thanks!
@okgator @Chief_Trojan
 
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"We need to seek the most compassionate way of weeding out people... In place of the pro-life movement we need to develop the "spirituality of recycling"... a spirituality that includes ourselves in the renewal of earth and self. We need to compost ourselves."


Why don't they start with themselves
 





 
"I am dedicated to protecting #medicalfreedom in Arizona!"

It's obscene that MDs are not allowed to use whatever drugs, surgeries, techniques or tests that are legal in the US to cure their patients whether or not that use is permitted for the above. The idea is to heal the patient without causing more harm.

Besides the insane politics involved, I suspect the reason has much to do with not paying the price to the gov't to get their Okie-Dokie. How do I mean that?

Many of the pesticides I use in my companies will kill numerous creatures but I'm restricted in their use if those target creatures are NOT listed on the label. Most pesticides don't discriminate. The real reason is the manufacturers have not paid the million$ demanded by the EPA and other agencies to have them listed on the labels. Getting a label changed and approved by the EPA requires millions and years of research. Simply changing the format of an approved label requires payment of fee$ to the government.

It's the same with virtually every pharmaceutical used in the US. They require years and years of research, clinical trial, and other data and a lot of $$$---unless it's a mRNA bullshit vaccine.
 


Lose Cuomo, and Dems go further crazy with Hochul.....who lies worse than Andy
 

Anytime I talk with someone about the jab, I give them the Pfizer 800 number to call for themselves to confirm the only FDA approval is for Comirnaty 800.666.7428, which incidentally still isn't available here. Hearing it directly from Pfizer is more persuasive than anything I tell them.

The fact that Biden and the media complex tell the American public that all Pfizer vaccines are approved is beyond criminal. (Along with everything else they do)

I also find it interesting the number starts with 666...but i usually don't go there outside of these friendly confines.
 

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