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Haha, what a bunch of fvcking lunatics.

I'll be honest, I got the jab (Moderna) back in January. I have had zero side effects, but I'm completely against forcing anyone especially children to take this shit. I refuse to wear a mask, and I'm definitely not getting a fvcking booster.

My wife is totally against it, and will not get the jab. I'm all about people having the freedom to make their own health choices. We've already decided to pull our kids out of school of they force them. These are crazy times Patriots, we need to stick together cause they're coming for us.
 
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Why is a respiratory virus mutating stronger during the summer?

Can anyone explain that?

I don't know but the vaccine being the cause makes sense

Then we roll out the booosters, rinse and repeat

Side note...Anyone who thinks this is all accidental and the masks/lockdowns/medical tryranny is simply irrational politicians moved by an unrelentining yet misguided love for their constitients is out of their mind

The naive are the "Whoopsy Dasieists"
Who says it mutating stronger? If that was the case we would have daily death counts like all last year. What Luc Montagnier said at the very beginning is happening; this is an engineered virus that started off bad but will degrade to basically the common cold.
 
I’m not a doctor, but I do read thefreespeechforum LAC thread:

I think the theory here is that natural immunity offers a wider range of protection against the virus.

The bodies first line of defense is the mucous lining in the upper respiratory tract. The vaccine offers no protection in the URT for when the virus first enters the body whereas natural immunity does. I think someone posted that nasal respirator vaccines are in development that would offer protection in the URT.

Also there’s several proteins in the bloodstream that the virus attacks. The vaccine doesn’t offer antibodies in each of those proteins whereas natural immunity would. Mutations of the virus would then attack the proteins that the vaccine doesn’t protect.

This is super simplifies of course and maybe I misunderstood but that’s what I’ve gathered. Please let me know if I’m off base with this.
Here’s my only edible induced counter shower thought. This is an engineered virus. What if they are pushing the vaccine so hard because they know something bad is coming from covid down the road and they are trying to counter act it?
 
Who says it mutating stronger? If that was the case we would have daily death counts like all last year. What Luc Montagnier said at the very beginning is happening; this is an engineered virus that started off bad but will degrade to basically the common cold.
I'm saying if it is mutating stronger, why is it doing so?

I think it is weaker

But I think we are headed for a genuine medical disaster this winter due to the vax, masks, lockdowns

It' engineered and I think we are entering the next phase
 
I’m not a doctor, but I do read thefreespeechforum LAC thread:

I think the theory here is that natural immunity offers a wider range of protection against the virus.

The bodies first line of defense is the mucous lining in the upper respiratory tract. The vaccine offers no protection in the URT for when the virus first enters the body whereas natural immunity does. I think someone posted that nasal respirator vaccines are in development that would offer protection in the URT.

Also there’s several proteins in the bloodstream that the virus attacks. The vaccine doesn’t offer antibodies in each of those proteins whereas natural immunity would. Mutations of the virus would then attack the proteins that the vaccine doesn’t protect.

This is super simplifies of course and maybe I misunderstood but that’s what I’ve gathered. Please let me know if I’m off base with this.
It sounds like you read the thread I started "Natural Immunity >> Vaccine Immunity"!

Yes, I believe that when you consider the mucosal antibodies that are created from an infection, that the person is more likely to handle a subsequent infection in the URT, and that could mean that they are less contagious than an un-infected vaccinated person.

But then wouldn't that put pressure on the virus to adapt and overcome the mucosal antibodies?

I still think the entire premises of applying evolution and natural selection to a virus is flawed. Natural selection is going to be a by-product of the reproduction of organisms that survived whatever environmental event that adversely affected other organisms. The virus mutations are going to be random in nature. At least that's how I understand all this.
 
So I work in medical sales here in Oklahoma. My company is based out of Florida. On a conference call yesterday they announced they are mandating the vaccine for all sales employees since we work in the OR with surgeons.
Anyone have any thoughts on how I could push back without quitting my job? For obvious reasons I need to keep my job. Thanks for any and all advice.
Man that really sucks. I’m in med sales too, but not in the OR. So far my company hasn’t gone down the mandate road, but they have polled the entire company and asked if you e had the jab. If you answer no, they offer to ship N95 masks to your home. Praying they don’t make me pull the medical card. As for your situation, have you called HR, maybe to explore a medical waiver?
 
I'm saying if it is mutating stronger, why is it doing so?

I think it is weaker

But I think we are headed for a genuine medical disaster this winter due to the vax, masks, lockdowns

It' engineered and I think we are entering the next phase
They can say it's mutating stronger and becoming more transmissible (defying all past patterns of viral mutations) but what may really be happening is release of another virus.

When C19 "hit" it was clearly visible as a new global threat - now that the waters are muddy, they can release new bioweapons indefinitely under the guise of mutations and who's going to question it? Some days I wonder how we (here) continue to live a relatively normal life day-to-day, knowing how sinister and big this is.
 
I think the point is how are you distinguishing what's fascist/demonic/totalitarian and what's "heavy handed" but born out of good intention?

If you come at this, from a macro level and see this as an agenda driven even rather than an unfortunate turn of happenstance then what is happening in Australia is extremely relevant as it can foreshadow what is to happen elsewhere
Again, you also missed the point of what my intentions were. I wasn’t discussing any heavy hand of government. Of course there is agenda. There is agenda with everything. That doesn’t mean the product being offered is bad for me and you. I can have multiple thoughts on a given subject with many differing perspectives, like the vaccine for example. Doesn’t mean I’m even trying to discuss the totalitarian activities being displayed in Australia.
 
I see a lot of questions about viral evolution popping up. I posted this a few weeks ago, and am glad to explain in further detail if it is helpful.


Alright, time for the creationist to drop a little evolutionary knowledge here...

People don't tend to understand the basic evolutionary processes that lead to randomly acquired traits becoming fixed within a population. I've had some success explaining it a few different ways to people:

1. Which patient contributes to the rise of antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, the patient taking antibiotics or the patient not taking antibiotics?

2. What causes Round-Up resistant weeds, farming millions of acres with Round-Up or farming millions of acres without Round-Up?

Most people are familiar with one or both of those examples, and it's funny to see the look of understanding once they make the connection to vaccine resistance.

Resistance traits are governed by genetic drift until the fitness landscape is altered to confer improved fitness for resistance traits. At that time, selection favors resistance. Filling a population with hosts who have been vaccinated with a weak vaccine that still allows the virus to spread from host to host is a great way to rapidly evolve vaccine resistance and drive vaccine obsolescence.

If we don't come up with a vaccine that helps the immune system identify many parts of the virus (thereby more closely mirroring the immune learning from natural infection), and also adopt excellent therapeutic protocols, we're going to be in a world where the current vaccines do nothing at all. That could happen in a matter of a couple of months.
 

Great article that provides ammunition against unlawful vaccine mandates. Heads up to those facing mandates at work. You will want to read this article.
 
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