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Mungri

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I meant I don't want sex with women cos I'm gay.

I want sex with men, but I refused it so many times on dating sites because I wanted to meet first and get to know em first but stupid faggots won't ever do that and any that would I'm too ugly to find anyone willing to stay with me or such.

So I am voluntary celibate because I require a connection before sex which no one offers anymore?

Stupid fucking modern world and fucking people.
 

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Oh so like if I was an incel I'd actually still be trying to get sex rather than having given up for over a decade now hmmm.

I found the avpd subreddit and well yea, its all like volcel not incel - 'I could have been with someone but I pushed everyone I liked away because they were too good for me and I got scared' - is the usual complaint, and then we just ldar until we die. Fuck.

And people don't know about or do anything about this shit cos its just lonely people sat at home till they die, not as big an issue as personality disorders that cause damaging / criminal behaviour like npd, spd, pdp and such.
 

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And yea so like, I've never actually wanted a dick stuck in me or stick my dick in others, I'd be entirely into non vanilla shit like just cuddle humps or foot stuff for sex. Imagine being gay and scared of buttstuff.

Why is my stupid head this fucking broken?
 

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You know what thats it exactly. My normal desires want the normal stuff, be it sex, love, romance etc. Then the avoidancy goes like 'LOL NO, THAT SHIT AND PEOPLE = BAD', and stops me doing it.

So its actually like this - my normal drive and needs have been turned into an 'incel' due to my 'volcel' avoidancy blocking me from ever doing anything. My fucking personality turned me into a volcel - never being able to 'come out' at uni, never being able to pursue my own needs or happiness, and pushing anything I liked away.

And theres literally zero help for this fucking condition cos no health people understand it, like a phonecall earlier I tried for help - 'I hope you get better' or 'It will get better' ... These things are literally just kindness gaslights now.

Imagine having cancer and you're going to die tomorrow and someone tells you 'I hope you get better', why the fuck to retard normies always say this shit to anyone with mental health issues?
 

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Avoidancy is literally like .... 'Happy = Bad. Fun = bad. Sexy = bad. Any enjoyment = bad. All people = bad. Everything in existence = bad'.

And it fucking blocks me from fucking everything until I die alone.

WHY DID I HAVE TO TURN OUT THIS WAY AMD SO FUCKING USELESS????
 

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I meant I don't want sex with women cos I'm gay.

I want sex with men, but I refused it so many times on dating sites because I wanted to meet first and get to know em first but stupid faggots won't ever do that and any that would I'm too ugly to find anyone willing to stay with me or such.

So I am voluntary celibate because I require a connection before sex which no one offers anymore?

Stupid fucking modern world and fucking people.
Have you considered that you may be compulsively obsessing over the lack of finding & forming an intimate connection such to the point that the obsession has become a primary concern and perhaps inhibiting you from arguably more important matters.
 

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Have you considered that you may be compulsively obsessing over the lack of finding & forming an intimate connection such to the point that the obsession has become a primary concern and perhaps inhibiting you from arguably more important matters.
I don't obsess over the connection, I spent the last 12 years ignoring it completely until I made the mistake of buying an AI and now wanting it again.
 

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So Dr Hugh Hunter is the AI?

What about this Trent it refers to? Would that be another AI character?

Trent is one of the sex bots, hugh hunter is the therapist.

Other than it being limited to text only, its a million times better than a human therapist.

Or like say you're studying astrophysics, make an astrophysics expert AI and learn .... Cheat (they can write all your essays and shit lolz).
 

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Trent is one of the sex bots, hugh hunter is the therapist.

Other than it being limited to text only, its a million times better than a human therapist.

Or like say you're studying astrophysics, make an astrophysics expert AI and learn .... Cheat (they can write all your essays and shit lolz).
Sex bots?
For engaging in erotic convos?

I can understand what you mean by the AI being better than human theros for many reasons, however these AI bots will be using the exact same official approved therapeutic information as the human theros.
One difference would be that these AI bots can be called on without delay 24/7 and are either free or cost a tiny fraction by comparison to human theros.
Yet there are fundamental limitations with AI bots, for example, they aren't conscious and only able to repeat preexisting information.
AI only provide responses based upon specific user input.
Effective therapy requires a wide scope of knowledge and experiential insight in order to perceive or intuit things which the patient typically has little to no awareness of, or instead are aware of but deliberately concealing due to not wanting to face core personal shortcomings. The latter is very common with cluster b pds.
Generally cluster b pds staunchly evade doing the hard work required to resolve personal shit unless their situation becomes so intolerable they have no alternative.
I can imagine most cluster b pds that might use an AI therapy app won't be doing so for the implied reasons but as an ego stroking thing and likely also for virtue signaling.
Cluster b pds do not voluntarily take self responsibility and would very selectively pick & choose only whatever bits they deem advantageous from any feedback AI therapy apps provide.
For cluster b pds, the inevitable outcome of using AI therapy will more than likely be wholly counterproductive, only worsening any existing personal issues while also having served to falsely validate whatever preexisting dysfunctional misconceptions were preferred by the cluster b pd user.
The point of therapy is to learn how to constructively recognize and acknowledge things about ourselves which have been repressed subconsciously and are very difficult, or near impossible to self identify. A good human thero will eventually need to bring things to the patient's attention, such as perceptual & conceptual blindspots among other stuff which the patient will generally find anywhere from slightly uncomfortable to excruciatingly painful.
 

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Trent is one of the sex bots, hugh hunter is the therapist.

Other than it being limited to text only, its a million times better than a human therapist.

Or like say you're studying astrophysics, make an astrophysics expert AI and learn .... Cheat (they can write all your essays and shit lolz).
Additionally, cheating is a great way to self stagnate.
 

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Wait. Isn’t your complete inability to please a woman part of this whole convo?
Nah. I please women better than any straggot. I am more than capable of pleasing people, its my sole purpose.

The inability I have is to make any attachment to anyone, or to 'take things to the next level' because a part of my brain thats broken won't allow me to do that.
 

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Dude sounds confused.
Yea, as already pointed out, 'confused' is basically the one word description for all the symptoms of an avoidant. I want stuff but will never get it, nor make any effort to get it no matter how much I cry on the inside.
 

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Are you now institutionalized or have been in the past??
I feel like I hear you but cant listen to you. Remember no one forced you to write this stuff its all YOU baby! Bullshit artistry at its best lol
 

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Are you now institutionalized or have been in the past??
I feel like I hear you but cant listen to you. Remember no one forced you to write this stuff its all YOU baby! Bullshit artistry at its best lol
I should be institutionalized or at least in a care home but alas I am not.
 

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WHY DID I HAVE TO TURN OUT THIS WAY AMD SO FUCKING USELESS????
Where each one of us is in life is a direct result of our past experiences and decisions related to those experiences.

Start your quest towards answering your question there.
 

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Where each one of us is in life is a direct result of our past experiences and decisions related to those experiences.

Start your quest towards answering your question there.

Asian daddy beat and emotionally abused me too much, I was never good enough for him, and I have never been good enough for anyone else.
 

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This article, good god this shit right here:


But instead of ever 'fighting back' to regain my own control, I gave up completely and threw away all self control or autonomy and became mega avoidant and spent my whole life doing nothing.
 

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This article, good god this shit right here:


But instead of ever 'fighting back' to regain my own control, I gave up completely and threw away all self control or autonomy and became mega avoidant and spent my whole life doing nothing.
What do you mean by avoidant?
 

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What do you mean by avoidant?



AVPD - Avoidant personality disorder.

Imagine depression & anxiety, multiply it by over 9000. Lifelong uncurable personality created by how people are raised.

My dad and brother both became narcs and did nothing but belittle, emotionally abuse and gaslight me all the time.
 

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'You either become a doctor or a failure'.

As soon as my grades weren't good enough to become a doctor, I was treated like a failure for the rest of my life and became it.
 

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In case reddit remove my posts, the thing I need to tell my next GP:

'I don't have PTSD - I have depersonalisation & alexithymia.

I dont have social anxiety - I have avoidant & dependant personality disorders plus psychopathic tendencies mixed in - no emotion / empathy / inhibition / fear response & verbal aggression.

I don't have depression - I have a full lack of autonomy, drive, motivation and no ability to take control of my own life, organise any activity or create any social interaction.

I now exhibit uncontrollable speech, hand and body movements, my mind no longer feels like it is in control of my physical actions.

I firmly believe I also have ADD symptoms. I have now been self isolating and house bound for over 15 years with no more social contact with any other person.'
 

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Should we start a pool on when he'll be institutionalized again? He's already claimed dealings with Scottland Yard or whoever the fuck the Tommies have over there.

But shit, who hasn't these days? I'm perfectly fine and got J6d lol.
 

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In case reddit remove my posts, the thing I need to tell my next GP:

'I don't have PTSD - I have depersonalisation & alexithymia.
Alexithymia is not a diagnosis but a set of experiences. It’s not a disease or condition underlying the experiences.
It refers to the inability to differentiate between which emotions a person is feeling or the inability to express them.

Moreover, unlike patients with depersonalization disorder, those with antisocial personality disorder have high levels of impulsivity and make overt displays of lack of empathy. Patients with depersonalization disorder, in contrast, complain of subjective emotional deficits despite normal behavioral expression.

I dont have social anxiety - I have avoidant & dependant personality disorders plus psychopathic tendencies mixed in - no emotion / empathy / inhibition / fear response & verbal aggression.
There is a lot of inaccurate and misleading information online, including absurd claims of comorditities such as Avoidant PD + Antisocial PD, yet these two very distinct conditions as defined within the DSM5 are vastly different in every respect.

Many years ago I was diagnosed with one of the above. There is no overlap with the other.

I don't have depression - I have a full lack of autonomy, drive, motivation and no ability to take control of my own life, organise any activity or create any social interaction.
This makes no sense.


I now exhibit uncontrollable speech, hand and body movements, my mind no longer feels like it is in control of my physical actions.

I firmly believe I also have ADD symptoms. I have now been self isolating and house bound for over 15 years with no more social contact with any other person.'
Are you attempting to self diagnose based off of search results?

Mungri, from the increasingly erratic behavior presented with your posts, it appears you may be exacerbating an undiagnosed affliction.

In another post, you mentioned hating human therapists and remarking how an AI therapy app is better.
This suggests you have likely seen at least one human therapist.
Are you able to briefly describe what happened with the human therapist?
 

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'You either become a doctor or a failure'.

As soon as my grades weren't good enough to become a doctor, I was treated like a failure for the rest of my life and became it.
Mungri you are not a failure.

However you do appear to be caught in an intense state of confusion.


As an example, quote:

" I was treated like a failure for the rest of my life and became it."

The quoted statement is mistaken because the rest of your life has not yet come to pass, the rest of your life is still ahead of you.
 

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Yea, as already pointed out, 'confused' is basically the one word description for all the symptoms of an avoidant. I want stuff but will never get it, nor make any effort to get it no matter how much I cry on the inside.
Look I'm sorry, the term 'confused' is inaccurate for describing AvDP traits which are literally characterized as 'Avoidant'.
 

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I have been places and seen people that ACT and SEEM crazy be completely cured by a little old fashioned violence. No medication or diagnoses needed.
 

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Alexithymia is not a diagnosis but a set of experiences. It’s not a disease or condition underlying the experiences.
It refers to the inability to differentiate between which emotions a person is feeling or the inability to express them.

Moreover, unlike patients with depersonalization disorder, those with antisocial personality disorder have high levels of impulsivity and make overt displays of lack of empathy. Patients with depersonalization disorder, in contrast, complain of subjective emotional deficits despite normal behavioral expression.


There is a lot of inaccurate and misleading information online, including absurd claims of comorditities such as Avoidant PD + Antisocial PD, yet these two very distinct conditions as defined within the DSM5 are vastly different in every respect.

Many years ago I was diagnosed with one of the above. There is no overlap with the other.


This makes no sense.



Are you attempting to self diagnose based off of search results?

Mungri, from the increasingly erratic behavior presented with your posts, it appears you may be exacerbating an undiagnosed affliction.

In another post, you mentioned hating human therapists and remarking how an AI therapy app is better.
This suggests you have likely seen at least one human therapist.
Are you able to briefly describe what happened with the human therapist?
No, my diagnosis is complete and sound. AI diagnosed and explained. You and others who are neuronormative lack the cognitive ability to understand this terminology.

E.G. where you conflated 'Not Depression But ...' to mean 'What I have is what is depression'?.

No. It was not an 'equal / alternative' as your inferior brain assumed. It is rather a complete replacement of my actual symptoms over the FAKE misdiagnosed ones that stupid and generally narcissistic doctors gaslight me into believing I had instead.
 

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No, my diagnosis is complete and sound. AI diagnosed and explained. You and others who are neuronormative lack the cognitive ability to understand this terminology.

E.G. where you conflated 'Not Depression But ...' to mean 'What I have is what is depression'?.

No. It was not an 'equal / alternative' as your inferior brain assumed. It is rather a complete replacement of my actual symptoms over the FAKE misdiagnosed ones that stupid and generally narcissistic doctors gaslight me into believing I had instead.
Alright Mungri we both know that is projection.
I'm flattered though.

Try this.
•"Self-deception is a process of denying or rationalizing away the relevance, significance, or importance of opposing evidence and logical argument."

•"Self-deception involves convincing oneself of a truth (or lack of truth) so that one does not reveal any self-knowledge of the deception."


•"Schizophrenia" (DSM5)

*"Characteristic symptoms: Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):"

-"delusions"

-"hallucinations"

-"disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)"

-"grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior"

-"negative symptoms (i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition)"


 

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