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Shiloh: an underappreciated battle

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Crazy how underappreciated an event it is.
 

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So, was the Union really caught sleeping?

Shiloh was the battle where someone sent out scouts, disobeying orders not to, and found the Rebels. . . correct? Grant and Sherman got dogged by that for years after.
 
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So, was the Union really caught sleeping?
No, that's one of the bigger myths about Shiloh.

Colonel Everett Peabody's decision to send out the reconnoitering patrol and them stumbling into the Confederates in Fraley Field let the Federals know that the Confederate army was there in force. The Federals were surprised by the bold move, but there weren't sleeping men being bayonetted in their tents like the newspapers portrayed it.
 

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So, was the Union really caught sleeping?

Shiloh was the battle where someone sent out scouts, disobeying orders not to, and found the Rebels. . . correct? Grant and Sherman got dogged by that for years after.
@futurepanther is spot on.

Sherman was receiving reports for at least 3 days prior of rebel movement. He disregarded them likely due to being chastised earlier in the war (in the press) for supposedly imagining things while being too drunk.

Peabody's detachment was large that morning as well which continues to reinforce the idea that he expected to meet enemy contact.

The roads the rebs travelled to the battle were muddy and even the rebs themselves believed that had lost the element of surprise until reaching the battlefield.
 

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@futurepanther is spot on.

Sherman was receiving reports for at least 3 days prior of rebel movement. He disregarded them likely due to being chastised earlier in the war (in the press) for supposedly imagining things while being too drunk.

Peabody's detachment was large that morning as well which continues to reinforce the idea that he expected to meet enemy contact.

The roads the rebs travelled to the battle were muddy and even the rebs themselves believed that had lost the element of surprise until reaching the battlefield.
You talking about Sherman in Kentucky? He was spooked as fuck, but he eneded up being right. The Federals did not have the numbers or weapons at that point to deal with the Rebs.

Never heard the drunk thing. I took at is an anxiety issue considering he had "asthma" and really worried about stuff like the newspaper guys, to the point of breakdown.
 

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You talking about Sherman in Kentucky? He was spooked as fuck, but he eneded up being right. The Federals did not have the numbers or weapons at that point to deal with the Rebs.

Never heard the drunk thing. I took at is an anxiety issue considering he had "asthma" and really worried about stuff like the newspaper guys, to the point of breakdown.
Mental health issues were often attributed to alcohol since people didn't know any better back then.

"Grant stood by me when I was crazy, and I stood by him when he was drunk, and now we stand by each other".

William Tecumseh Sherman
 

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The larger misstep by the Union was allowing the Confederate army to escape from Corinth a few weeks later. The largest massing of two opposing armys on the North American Continent that we know of to date.

'Siege' of Corinth
 

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The larger misstep by the Union was allowing the Confederate army to escape from Corinth a few weeks later. The largest massing of two opposing armys on the North American Continent that we know of to date.

'Siege' of Corinth
Beauregard's evacuation of Corinth was one of the more impressive feats of the war. He had the musicians stay in the camps to stoke the fires and play music. He also ordered the men to cheer as they boarded the rail cars to make the Federals think they were being reinforced.
 

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Today is Patrick Cleburne's birthday. His brigade as part of Hardee's Corps advanced through Rhea Spring consisting of the 15th Arkansas advanced as skirmishers, and from left to right the 24th Tennessee, The 23rd Tennessee, Hill's 35th Tennessee, Bate's 2nd Tennessee, the 23rd Tennessee, and the 6th Mississippi.
 

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Today is Patrick Cleburne's birthday. His brigade as part of Hardee's Corps advanced through Rhea Spring consisting of the 15th Arkansas advanced as skirmishers, and from left to right the 24th Tennessee, The 23rd Tennessee, Hill's 35th Tennessee, Bate's 2nd Tennessee, the 23rd Tennessee, and the 6th Mississippi.
Wasted talent. One of the better what ifs to speculate on.
 
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