Russia, Russia, Russia - Durham investigation concludes. Sham Danchenko trial this week

[Jayhox]

The civil suit could indeed get the ball rolling. Trump's batting average on suits is high. All depends on the judge and forum.

The IG Report is an official government document not that it means anything as we've seen. It has been accepted by the DOJ and Congress through hearings. Little of it has been impeached. Seems like it serves as corroboration and a statement of facts. If not, why would we need IG's?

“The IG Report is an official government document not that it means anything . . .”

It means a lot under evidentiary rules. As official government documents, they can be entered into evidence without the usual need for foundational witnesses through judicial notice of a public record.

 

[America 1st]

Not really thread is a shadow of itself, with occasional good information/thoughts

This. It’s pretty much a waste.

 

[MVTPatriot]

Durham and Trump’s civil suit are not connected in any legal sense. But they are on parallel paths. Treason can always go to a Military Tribunal under current regulations that were enhanced under Trump.

So I guess my question is, if Trump's RICO civil suit can show evidence of treason, would the military automatically take over with tribunals being the trial mechanism?

 

[imprimis]

“The IG Report is an official government document not that it means anything . . .”

It means a lot under evidentiary rules. As official government documents, they can be entered into evidence without the usual need for foundational witnesses through judicial notice of a public record.

Point is that official government documents sometimes fall by the wayside either deliberately or by accident.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Reading about how Rod Rosenstein was left off of Trumps lawsuit.

He was also cleared by the ethics committee to lead an investigation and be a witness at the same time.

Is Rosenstein a witness for Durham?

 

[Thasubliminal]

So I guess my question is, if Trump's RICO civil suit can show evidence of treason, would the military automatically take over with tribunals being the trial mechanism?

No. There are different burdens of proof in civil vs criminal. Like @Jayhox said, it absolutely means something evidence-wise, and the IG report also lends at least some credibility to Trump's lawsuit.

 

[t_money86]

Not really thread is a shadow of itself, with occasional good information/thoughts

What about the thread is not living up to your expectations?

This. It’s pretty much a waste.

And this is hysterical. You were ran off the thread because you're a fake POS. Carry on though.

 

[America 1st]

What about the thread is not living up to your expectations?



And this is hysterical. You were ran off the thread because you're a fake POS. Carry on though.

Knot sure what yew are talking about?

@BurntJ and eye drops sum facts then eye started posting only every once inn a while (like a few days ago). It’s just knot worth it two spend thyme on people that can’t admit they are wrong or don’t want truth.

Nothing has changed my status as the board’s best poster.

 

[ChicagoFats]

 

[ChicagoFats]

Wow, how rich is this? Hillary and Obama are slamming free-speech over miss information. They are clearly trying to get out in front of Durham and are going to label his investigation "mis-information". They are horrible people.

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[Cre8ive]

Nothing on this yet? Seems like a big deal to me. If Durham is starting at the bottom and squeezing his way to the top, how far will it go? This guy Sussman is the second guy charged so far, with that other low level agent that changed the email suggesting Carter Page was a spy being the other, and I'm wondering if this is just the tip of the iceberg or is Durham totally weak and this is all he will charge?

Someone needs to be held liable for all this Russia shit and it doesn't stop at Sussman if you ask me.

Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann indicted for allegedly lying to FBI during Russia investigation

A federal grand jury returned the indictment sought by sought by Special Counsel John Durham

www.foxnews.com

She's a made woman...an untouchable. Trump can afford to make news like this. He knows full well it is beyond a "moon shot."

 

[ChicagoFats]

Durham keeps talking about a "joint venture" between Joffee and Sussman. How is this different from a conspiracy? What is his strategy in calling it a joint venture?

@GatorOK

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[GatorOK]

Durham keeps talking about a "joint venture" between Joffee and Sussman. How is this different from a conspiracy? What is his strategy in calling it a joint venture?

@GatorOK


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Above my knowledge. Let me ask some questions and I will get back to you

 

[PerdidoKeyFrisbee]

Durham keeps talking about a "joint venture" between Joffee and Sussman. How is this different from a conspiracy? What is his strategy in calling it a joint venture?

@GatorOK


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While GatorOk is deliberating on your question, I'll give my layman's opinion of why Durham is calling it a joint venture rather than a conspiracy. I'm guessing the Durham camp doesn't want to show their hand of what they're willing to charge these "middle men" here. They'd rather flip these guys in order to make a more solid case against their masters, i.e. Hillary, the Podestas, among others.

This is least what I hope is the case.

 

[GatorOK]

Joint venture is a business agreement or partnership that can be proven. Conspiracy takes a lot more to prove.

Basically they have the goods on the joint venture and are telling all those involved we have it and can prove it.

 

[GatorOK]

Durham keeps talking about a "joint venture" between Joffee and Sussman. How is this different from a conspiracy? What is his strategy in calling it a joint venture?

@GatorOK


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Joint venture is a business agreement or partnership that can be proven. Conspiracy takes a lot more to prove.

Basically they have the goods on the joint venture and are telling all those involved we have it and can prove it.

wanted to make sure you saw the reply.

 

[ChicagoFats]

kind of let this thread lapse .... but back on it now. Sussman facing minor charges but many think he is testing the water for bigger charges for higher up people.

 

[TJHall1]

kind of let this thread lapse .... but back on it now. Sussman facing minor charges but many think he is testing the water for bigger charges for higher up people.

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How long are people going to believe this stuff without anything ever happening to "higher up people"?

 

[ChicagoFats]

How long are people going to believe this stuff without anything ever happening to "higher up people"?

Im holding out hope until Durham hangs up his cleats. Yeah, you can call me naive.

 

[TJHall1]

Im holding out hope until Durham hangs up his cleats. Yeah, you can call me naive.

 

[hmt5000]

The jury is definitely rigged. I don't see how you get a conviction with 2 hillary donors and one person that hated Trump soooo much that she said she wouldn't be able to be impartial in any matter concerning him. Also, one of the jurors daughter is on a swim team with Sussmans daughter.

 

[Cre8ive]

This is going to end up being a huge nothing burger. No fucking way does anything happen to hillary.

If you have to presume it then there won't be shit that comes from it. If anything happens they'll take down a little guy who gets to take the fall.

Conservatives are suckers - we still believe in truth, justice and the American way, and try to live by the rule of law and fair play. Liberals (and all the four letter words that are derivatives of the word liberal) believe in lying, cheating, stealing all to destroy the foundation of our great Republic and create a socialistic dystopia that creates two classes of people - the have and the have nots.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Unreal. At this point we have a two tiered justice system. One for democrats and one for everyone else.

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[LVRebel]

Unreal. At this point we have a two tiered justice system. One for democrats and one for everyone else.

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Unbelievable!

 

[quickfeet]

I'm sure its all part of The Plan

 

[ChicagoFats]

We need to spread out some of our governmental institutions beyond Washington DC.

Move the FBI headquarters to Oklahoma or some shit like that. DC is a swamp.

 

[Rebarcock.]

We need to spread out some of our governmental institutions beyond Washington DC.

Move the FBI headquarters to Oklahoma or some shit like that. DC is a swamp.

Absolutely. Break up the club.
There was a ton of evidence allowed in to the record. I believe it is far from over

 

[ChicagoFats]

@GatorOK

Any thoughts after todays verdict?

 

[TJHall1]

The jury is definitely rigged. I don't see how you get a conviction with 2 hillary donors and one person that hated Trump soooo much that she said she wouldn't be able to be impartial in any matter concerning him. Also, one of the jurors daughter is on a swim team with Sussmans daughter.

 

[GatorOK]

@GatorOK

Any thoughts after todays verdict?

Will have more tomorrow, scheduled a time to talk to my source. When we briefly spoke today he said DC protecting itself, but there is more to come. i will post after convo.

 

[Jtrain80]

We need to spread out some of our governmental institutions beyond Washington DC.

Move the FBI headquarters to Oklahoma or some shit like that. DC is a swamp.

Fuck that. We don't want them around here.

Maybe Alaska.

 

[Jtrain80]

Unreal. At this point we have a two tiered justice system. One for democrats and one for everyone else.

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One for the Elites, BIPOC crowd, and the Political establishment. One for the rest of us.

 

[TJHall1]

Fuck that. We don't want them around here.

Maybe Alaska.

Fuck that. Oklahoma's already overrun with meth heads. Don't ruin a great and beautiful state like Alaska with a govt agency.

 

[Jtrain80]

Fuck that. Oklahoma's already overrun with meth heads. Don't ruin a great and beautiful state like Alaska with a govt agency.

Then give them to Iowa. They can guard the corn.

 

[TJHall1]

Then give them to Iowa. They can guard the corn.

No thanks. We've got enough faggots from Chicago migrating here already.

 

[GatorOK]

@GatorOK

Any thoughts after todays verdict?

Verdict Expected - didn't have a choice on trial venue and a change of venue wasn't going to happen because Sussman is a DC resident

SCO got in everything they could to expose the foundation of the conspiracy

More indictments expected before the election - Strzok, and McCabe possible with Paige as a gov witness

There are a few others involved in the conspiracy that will get hauled in soon

They will embarrass Come but don't know if they will get an indictment 50/50 right now

Doubtful on an HRC indictment - this thing will expose her for what she is. Ruins her legacy (I asked about the MSM not carrying anything about it, and was told that the story will be around for a few years as they go through trial. Her name will constantly come up as a bad person....will see if it moves the needle)

 

[ChicagoFats]

Verdict Expected - didn't have a choice on trial venue and a change of venue wasn't going to happen because Sussman is a DC resident

SCO got in everything they could to expose the foundation of the conspiracy

More indictments expected before the election - Strzok, and McCabe possible with Paige as a gov witness

There are a few others involved in the conspiracy that will get hauled in soon

They will embarrass Come but don't know if they will get an indictment 50/50 right now

Doubtful on an HRC indictment - this thing will expose her for what she is. Ruins her legacy (I asked about the MSM not carrying anything about it, and was told that the story will be around for a few years as they go through trial. Her name will constantly come up as a bad person....will see if it moves the needle)

Thanks for the update, always enjoy your info.

 

[TJHall1]

Verdict Expected - didn't have a choice on trial venue and a change of venue wasn't going to happen because Sussman is a DC resident

SCO got in everything they could to expose the foundation of the conspiracy

More indictments expected before the election - Strzok, and McCabe possible with Paige as a gov witness

There are a few others involved in the conspiracy that will get hauled in soon

They will embarrass Come but don't know if they will get an indictment 50/50 right now

Doubtful on an HRC indictment - this thing will expose her for what she is. Ruins her legacy (I asked about the MSM not carrying anything about it, and was told that the story will be around for a few years as they go through trial. Her name will constantly come up as a bad person....will see if it moves the needle)

Hahahahahaha ruin her legacy....don't know if they'll get an indictment hahahaha

 

[ChicagoFats]

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What the fuck is going on? I feel like there is a lot more to this story than is being made public.

Either Trump collided with Russia OR the FBI framed him. Which was it?

 

[Mr.Fitzwell]

I think the latter...but at this point, who knows lol