Revelation

[tgsio]

We want a good discussion on the Book of Revelation.

Lots of good posters who have delved into this topic. (I'm not one of them).

Go.

 

[rCW702]

 

[shiv]

Thanks!

I really need to shut down on conspiracies for the night, but

I believe that the seven churches are representative of the chakras.

Also I’ve got some really interesting connections between some stuff in Plato’s Republic with the Revalation but I need to dig it up.

Will report back

 

[N. Pappagiorgio]

I hate to be that guy but it’s Revelation. No s.

 

[tgsio]

I hate to be that guy but it’s Revelation. No s.

Fair point. I told you I wasn't one of the good posters.

@Croot_Overlord , will you fix my title? Please? I can't find an edit button to fix it myself.

Edit: NM. I found it.

 

[BackLash]

For those interested, there's a guy named Tim Mackie on YouTube who's created a series called "The Bible Project". He's a self-proclaimed Bible need and created videos breaking down books and stories of the Bible. Definitely worth checking out.

 

[noleology]

Questions and Answers from the Bible (Part D)

Questions and Answers from the Bible, by Les Feldick - Part D – The End Times

www.lesfeldick.org

 

[AC2020]

Thanks!

I really need to shut down on conspiracies for the night, but

I believe that the seven churches are representative of the chakras.

Also I’ve got some really interesting connections between some stuff in Plato’s Republic with the Revalation but I need to dig it up.

Will report back

What would lead you to think that? There is absolutely nothing in the text or the original language that would indicate such an interpretation.

Not trying to be disrespectful or rude.

 

[shiv]

What would lead you to think that? There is absolutely nothing in the text or the original language that would indicate such an interpretation.

Not trying to be disrespectful or rude.

It’s just personal opinion. I feel like there are many things in the Bible that are layered (have multiple meanings). 7 churches in Asia - the chakras are an Asian idea

Also numbers:

 

[shiv]

Revalation 13:16
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

I got hung up on this verse one time and I started messing around with some numbers. I found it odd that John says: "Let him calculate the number"

So I started doing some math.

6*6*6 = 216

3*3*3 + 4*4*4 + 5*5*5 = 216

So,

3^3 + 4^3 + 5^3 = 6^3

Interesting, yeah but not a ton here. But I want to take a deeper look at 216

 

[shiv]

216 is a very interesting number. I've always had a theory that Plato helped paved the way for Christianity, and Jesus specifically, with some of his ideas. Also note that John says "This calls for wisdom" when we are to calculate the number - a trait that the Greek philosophers were known for.

216 (number) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

216 is an untouchable number:

An untouchable number is a positive integer that cannot be expressed as the sum of all the proper divisors of any positive integer (including the untouchable number itself). That is, these numbers are not in the image of the aliquot sum function. Their study goes back at least to Abu Mansur al-Baghdadi (circa 1000 AD), who observed that both 2 and 5 are untouchable.

 

[shiv]

A few pages in of book 8 in Plato's Republic, Socrates goes off on a mathematical rant calling 216 the Divine number.

But during this rant he also references another of Plato's writings called Timaeus (I think thats the one). Which is one of the two dialogues by Plato that talks about Atlantis. This dialogue is very heavy talking about the mathematical dimensions of Atlantis - pretty interesting stuff.

 

[shiv]

Now you might say, yeah interesting anecdotal evidence, but you sound like a schizo.

Well that's fine.

But, let's do one more math. 144,000 is another prominent number in the Revelation.

144,000/666 = 216.216216216216216...

 

[shiv]

One other anecdote. Plato has heavily influenced by Pythagoras. Pythagoras is widely known for the Pythagorean theorem that states that for a right triangle, A^2 + B^2 = C^2

One of the Pythagorean triples is 216^2 + 630^2 = 666^2

 

[shiv]

It’s just personal opinion. I feel like there are many things in the Bible that are layered (have multiple meanings). 7 churches in Asia - the chakras are an Asian idea

Also numbers:

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Also 216/144 is exactly 1.5

 

[TJHall1]

One other anecdote. Plato has heavily influenced by Pythagoras. Pythagoras is widely known for the Pythagorean theorem that states that for a right triangle, A^2 + B^2 = C^2

One of the Pythagorean triples is 216^2 + 630^2 = 666^2

So you just plugged in whatever number (630) would get you to 666^2? Seems legit.

 

[TJHall1]

Also 216/144 is exactly 1.5

And?

 

[shiv]

And?

"A time, times, and half a time" appears twice in Daniel (7:25, 12:7) and once in Revelation (12:14)

I haven't nailed down any "facts" about these ideas, just pointing out some mathematical anomalies that I noticed and their relations to other religious/philosophical ideas

 

[shiv]

So you just plugged in whatever number (630) would get you to 666^2? Seems legit.

Again, just pointing out some connections. All the other numbers I used above were straight out of the Revelation.

Pythagorean triplets containing whole numbers don't grow on trees

 

[CameronWV]

Revalation 13:16
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

I got hung up on this verse one time and I started messing around with some numbers. I found it odd that John says: "Let him calculate the number"

So I started doing some math.

6*6*6 = 216

3*3*3 + 4*4*4 + 5*5*5 = 216

So,

3^3 + 4^3 + 5^3 = 6^3

Interesting, yeah but not a ton here. But I want to take a deeper look at 216

 

[AC2020]

It’s just personal opinion. I feel like there are many things in the Bible that are layered (have multiple meanings). 7 churches in Asia - the chakras are an Asian idea

Also numbers:

View attachment 4624

That's certainly a unique perspective.

 

[Belezabro]

Growing up in a Pentecostal church, this book was hammered into the congregation. Used to scare the shit out of me as a kid. Movies about the rapture...thought I'd witness people disappearing when Jesus returned.

 

[AgEngDawg]

Growing up in a Pentecostal church, this book was hammered into the congregation. Used to scare the shit out of me as a kid. Movies about the rapture...thought I'd witness people disappearing when Jesus returned.

I grew up a Southern Baptist in rural Georgia. I still am.

I remember we had Revival Week about every year when they would bring in preachers from other areas.

There was always one night when they preached on Revelations. It did scare me to death as a kid.

 

[Chris Farley]

 

[AC2020]

Growing up in a Pentecostal church, this book was hammered into the congregation. Used to scare the shit out of me as a kid. Movies about the rapture...thought I'd witness people disappearing when Jesus returned.

I grew up a Southern Baptist in rural Georgia. I still am.

I remember we had Revival Week about every year when they would bring in preachers from other areas.

There was always one night when they preached on Revelations. It did scare me to death as a kid.

It should scare us as adults as well. Trust Jesus and do right!

 

[AmericanViking]

What would lead you to think that? There is absolutely nothing in the text or the original language that would indicate such an interpretation.

Not trying to be disrespectful or rude.

Agree. Chakras would fall under the magic arts. Taught to man by the fallen and forbidden by God.

 

[imprimis]

For many many years it's been said by many pastors and what I've deduced and learned religiously that someday the US, founded on religious principles and a belief in God, will be brought to its knees internally to never before seen levels. The US may also exit the world stage from a position of leadership. We will wallow until large numbers of people get back to God and their spiritual selves. While I hoped and prayed that Trump would win, I had this thought in the back of my mind after the disappointment of 11/3. It may very well take this response before things get better.

The reasons for this are many but the proximate cause is the depravity and demonic direction our nation and its people are moving where everything good is bad, what's right is wrong, bad is now good and wrong is now right. The onslaught on religion and our churches has never before been sanctioned or encouraged by and through government as it is now.

 

[shiv]

Agree. Chakras would fall under the magic arts. Taught to man by the fallen and forbidden by God.

There’s nothing “magical” about it. Just a matter of definitions. Look up the human lymphatic system. Each “chakra” lines up with a nerve center in our body. The solar plexus is where the upper and lower lymphatic systems meet.

There is no magic, only truth. The mystification of things is what leads to manipulation and makes it easier to obscure the truth.

And in the end, Jesus is the Truth. From John chapter 1 verse 1: In the begging was the Word (in the Original Greek transcript Word is actually Logos which means Truth), and the Word was God, and the Word was with God.

John that wrote the book of John is the same John that wrote the Revelation