Crich73
Poster
She's a lib, but of course, but we had a interesting conversation last night. Typical young person, voted twice for Bernie, 2016 and 2020, and is majoring in liberal studies. (Some type of social work as a career)
Conversation progressed to talking about whether trump incited the "riot" on the capital. And said it was more egregious than any protest that took place over the summer.
She stated how bad it was that these people stormed the capital and took pictures in the offices belonging to Pelosi and so on. I told her how could she compare what happened in one day, one event with little to no damage to government property (which we pay for with our taxes) to the destruction and theft of private property belonging to citizens?
Of course the talk went to BLM and then she rolled up her sleeves to talk about what she's learned in her advanced culture studies classes along with the lectures required. I told her how I felt, that the issue isn't with AAs, but rather the issue is with a culture that is stunting the growth of their community with an overall lack of value for the staples of modern civilization. I mentioned how BLM had on their mission statement that the dissolution of the nuclear family is a key point. How the lack of father figures 70% of AA households dont have a dad. How an overarching attitude of victim mentality stunts accountability and hinders growth as persons, both within the family and the community.
One interesting point was how hip hop culture has set the standard for overall attitudes towards women and others. Basically how women are whores, and other people arent a consideration relative to oneself.
I compared this to (we are latino) a phenomenon happening within our community, the glorification of
narco culture. I personally feel both of these (hip hop, narco) stem from a distorted desire for grandeur, respect and percieved power. What's appealing to both is that little is required to achieve status other than ruthlessness and a total disregard towards the dignity of others. She couldn't say much since shes a feminist and see that while she likes and listens to hip hop there are many within that community that do infact glorify such abhorrent behavior.
Lastly, she started talking about institutional racism. How since the discovery of this nation let alone its founding that racism has been a mainstay of the western world. Africans captured and sold and so on. I stopped her to remind her how while extremely bad slavery was somewhat confined to southern states and how infact at the onset of slavery rivals or hostile tribes would invade neighboring tribes, and sell them to merchants. It was at this point that she had to stop and correct me, saying that first, slavery has been in all parts of the united states and not just the south.
Second, how I was wrongly educated. How K thru 12 does teach about africans selling each other to the white man, but this is infact wrong. That for ages, prior to Columbus Blacks have been enslaved and sold as property. That her studies have tought her that at every step, even up to today that laws and regulations have been put in place to oppress AAs. After the revolution the prison system was set up as a means and an extension for forced labor. And how even now, the numbers in terms of percentages are disproportionate for AAs in prison. When I ask about personal responsibility, don't commit crimes and you wont go to jail, well, everything is staked against AAs, so it's much easier for them to land in jail. That was her answer.
Conversation progressed to talking about whether trump incited the "riot" on the capital. And said it was more egregious than any protest that took place over the summer.
She stated how bad it was that these people stormed the capital and took pictures in the offices belonging to Pelosi and so on. I told her how could she compare what happened in one day, one event with little to no damage to government property (which we pay for with our taxes) to the destruction and theft of private property belonging to citizens?
Of course the talk went to BLM and then she rolled up her sleeves to talk about what she's learned in her advanced culture studies classes along with the lectures required. I told her how I felt, that the issue isn't with AAs, but rather the issue is with a culture that is stunting the growth of their community with an overall lack of value for the staples of modern civilization. I mentioned how BLM had on their mission statement that the dissolution of the nuclear family is a key point. How the lack of father figures 70% of AA households dont have a dad. How an overarching attitude of victim mentality stunts accountability and hinders growth as persons, both within the family and the community.
One interesting point was how hip hop culture has set the standard for overall attitudes towards women and others. Basically how women are whores, and other people arent a consideration relative to oneself.
I compared this to (we are latino) a phenomenon happening within our community, the glorification of
narco culture. I personally feel both of these (hip hop, narco) stem from a distorted desire for grandeur, respect and percieved power. What's appealing to both is that little is required to achieve status other than ruthlessness and a total disregard towards the dignity of others. She couldn't say much since shes a feminist and see that while she likes and listens to hip hop there are many within that community that do infact glorify such abhorrent behavior.
Lastly, she started talking about institutional racism. How since the discovery of this nation let alone its founding that racism has been a mainstay of the western world. Africans captured and sold and so on. I stopped her to remind her how while extremely bad slavery was somewhat confined to southern states and how infact at the onset of slavery rivals or hostile tribes would invade neighboring tribes, and sell them to merchants. It was at this point that she had to stop and correct me, saying that first, slavery has been in all parts of the united states and not just the south.
Second, how I was wrongly educated. How K thru 12 does teach about africans selling each other to the white man, but this is infact wrong. That for ages, prior to Columbus Blacks have been enslaved and sold as property. That her studies have tought her that at every step, even up to today that laws and regulations have been put in place to oppress AAs. After the revolution the prison system was set up as a means and an extension for forced labor. And how even now, the numbers in terms of percentages are disproportionate for AAs in prison. When I ask about personal responsibility, don't commit crimes and you wont go to jail, well, everything is staked against AAs, so it's much easier for them to land in jail. That was her answer.
