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TheResister

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All I care about is that people respect other peoples Rights.

If the only way to do that is for the criminals/psychos/schizo's to know that as soon as they pull their shit, they'll be shot dead, so be it.

As it stands now, criminals walk around armed. So why shouldn't their potential victims be armed too?
That may sound good in theory, but I believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. I think that the mentally ill should be put in mental institutions.

If you REALLY respect the Rights of others, you should adopt this as your own:

 

Joe King

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That’s not really where 95% of all shootings take place though.

Sure, we have seen plenty of school shootings but there are 100x more random street shootings. Add on the Walmart, concerts, festivals, etc. and you end up realizing that shootings are going to happen wherever criminals / shit people are.
But the ones we hear nonstop about and they try using as justification for further violation of our 2A Rights, are mostly in the gun free zones. Schools churches concerts festivals are all gun free zones.


My point is, gun free zones are stupid (which is why dems/libs/progs like them) and only serve to create sitting duck victims.
 
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But the ones we hear nonstop about and they try using as justification for further violation of our 2A Rights, are mostly in the gun free zones. Schools churches concerts festivals are all gun free zones.


My point is, gun free zones are stupid (which is why dems/libs/progs like them) and only serve to create sitting duck victims.
Churches, concerts, and festivals are definitely not gun free zones in my state.

Most schools in my state aren’t technically gun free either as most have an armed law enforcement officer present any time school or an event is in session.

Not sure what you mean by violations of your second amendment rights? I’ve never seen any evidence of violations in our country.
 
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TheResister

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If you see someone pull a gun and start shooting people, odds are they are guilty.
Under my plan, the mentally ill wouldn't have a gun because the moment they started talking shit, they would be detained, evaluated and put into a mental facility before they could shoot someone or run them over with a car... or stick a knife into them, etc., etc.
 

Goldhedge

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the 16 year plan

FYI Obama had more mass gun shootings than any POTUS.

Why?

Because traitor Kerry signed a gun ban bill with the UN (remember that?) and they were attempting to get it passed but senators said they would block it.

It never got passed in Congress.

Obama's 'mission' was to remove all the guns from the people in the US (violation of the 2nd) but he failed.

Hillary was to get us into a world war where the US would lose (reason Obama gutted the military) and the losing nation always loses their Constitution.

Fortunately, Trump kicked some ass....
 

Liquid Reigns

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Under my plan, the mentally ill wouldn't have a gun because the moment they started talking shit, they would be detained, evaluated and put into a mental facility before they could shoot someone or run them over with a car... or stick a knife into them, etc., etc.
So what you are saying is that rights can be taken, or not allowed for certain people, thus the 2A is not inalienable/unalienable or absolute as you claim. You are the one that claims the 2A "shall not be infringed", yet here you are infringing the rights of certain people, in this case the mentally ill.
 

Liquid Reigns

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Here is the more important question:

What kind of society KNOWINGLY allows people who pose an immediate threat to themselves and / or others run amok in public?

The only choices the politicians give you is to ban firearms or institute Red Flag Gun Laws.

Firearm bans are unconstitutional.
Red Flag Gun Laws empower the government to circumvent the Fourth Amendment and deny you due process. What is the answer?

Pass a law requiring police, mental health officials, clergy, etc. to immediately report any threat or other language that implies imminent harm to that person or others. That law would direct the police to detain that person and bring them before a magistrate.

The magistrate would be able to hear the evidence and put a 72 hour hold on the accused, pending a mental health examination and assessment to determine if that individual should be put into protective custody and supervised by mental health officials. The accused would be entitled to an attorney (at taxpayer expense if they can't afford it.)

The next section of the bill would make it a felony to falsely accuse anyone of having made such threat or other language as described in this post. That would eliminate the revenge and harassment kinds of accusations usually seen in lovers spats and so forth.

If someone is in a mental health facility being treated, they can't get a firearm, run others down with an automobile, stab them, etc.
Temper, temper, maybe you should turn yourself in for threatening others, kinda like how your typing outruns your mouth. imjusayn 🤷‍♂️
 
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So what you are saying is that rights can be taken, or not allowed for certain people, thus the 2A is not inalienable/unalienable or absolute as you claim. You are the one that claims the 2A "shall not be infringed", yet here you are infringing the rights of certain people, in this case the mentally ill.
He knows that no right is absolute but he can’t walk away from the gaslighting.



District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States. It ruled that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionprotects an individual's right to keep and bear arms—unconnected with service in a militia—for traditionally lawful purposes such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.[1] It also stated that the right to bear arms is not unlimited and that certain restrictions on guns and gun ownership were permissible. It was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense or whether the right was only intended for state militias.[2]
 

Liquid Reigns

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He knows that no right is absolute but he can’t walk away from the gaslighting.



District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States. It ruled that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionprotects an individual's right to keep and bear arms—unconnected with service in a militia—for traditionally lawful purposes such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.[1] It also stated that the right to bear arms is not unlimited and that certain restrictions on guns and gun ownership were permissible. It was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense or whether the right was only intended for state militias.[2]
He won't use Heller, he uses out of context phrases from cases that he thinks confirms his narrative of "absolute" and "unalienable". He's not gaslighting, he's truly this inept.
 

TheResister

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He knows that no right is absolute but he can’t walk away from the gaslighting.



District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States. It ruled that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionprotects an individual's right to keep and bear arms—unconnected with service in a militia—for traditionally lawful purposes such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.[1] It also stated that the right to bear arms is not unlimited and that certain restrictions on guns and gun ownership were permissible. It was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense or whether the right was only intended for state militias.[2]
Telling you the truth is not gaslighting you. I addressed Heller on resisters just a couple of weeks ago AND in this context:


You seem oblivious to the fact that the courts define words to their liking. That is pretty much what happened in Heller. They were forced to use the word unlimited because it had not been legally defined in the context of Rights and their relevance in light of the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment.
 

TheResister

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the 16 year plan

FYI Obama had more mass gun shootings than any POTUS.

Why?

Because traitor Kerry signed a gun ban bill with the UN (remember that?) and they were attempting to get it passed but senators said they would block it.

It never got passed in Congress.

Obama's 'mission' was to remove all the guns from the people in the US (violation of the 2nd) but he failed.

Hillary was to get us into a world war where the US would lose (reason Obama gutted the military) and the losing nation always loses their Constitution.

Fortunately, Trump kicked some ass....

Let me fix that for you:

Trump KISSED some ass when it came to gun control:


See Replies # 6 and 7. Help yourself to the internal links and videos of Trump himself.
 

Liquid Reigns

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Telling you the truth is not gaslighting you. I addressed Heller on resisters just a couple of weeks ago AND in this context:


You seem oblivious to the fact that the courts define words to their liking. That is pretty much what happened in Heller. They were forced to use the word unlimited because it had not been legally defined in the context of Rights and their relevance in light of the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment.
And there it is. He wants the mentally ill to be denied the right, not just from being allowed to posses a firearm, but also wants to deprive them of their freedom as stated higher in this thread, and now claims the 14A was illegally ratified to say his claim of the 2A is unalienable and shall not be infringed.

gofigr completely inept
 

CuriousFiend

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He knows that no right is absolute but he can’t walk away from the gaslighting.
He won't use Heller, he uses out of context phrases from cases that he thinks confirms his narrative of "absolute" and "unalienable". He's not gaslighting, he's truly this inept.
😎 What do we have here if not two cunty birds of a feather gaslighting together.

Probably should avoid taddling on ya selves within the actual taddles aye—although it ain't gonna help much coz both ya'z projections are kinda obvious af anyways. At least ya trying though.

🖕😂👍#TeamWork
 

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