Maine shooting

[LafesterMacintosh]

Guy shot 31 people, killing 18. Still on the loose. Had threatened a mass shooting in the past and was sent to a psych ward because he was hearing voices? Why the fuck did they allow this nut job to possess firearms?

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

You can thank The Supreme Court’s Bruen decision.

 

[PeytonMooning]

Bro it doesn't matter. Ban all guns and the cartel will fill the void. You want shit like this to stop, you gotta ban firearms, create a new government agency to confiscate them (or beef up an existing one), declare war on cartels, and shut down the Southern border.

Ain't no fucking way. You want to be safe stay strapped yourself.

 

[Rebarcock.]

Guy shot 31 people, killing 18. Still on the loose. Had threatened a mass shooting in the past and was sent to a psych ward because he was hearing voices? Why the fuck did they allow this nut job to possess firearms?

Because the red flag laws failed in Maine. All the wackos schizos and diddlers should be institutionalized

 

[LafesterMacintosh]

Blowed his brains out next to a dumpster. Should have just got in the dumpster then did it.

 

[Jtrain80]

Bro it doesn't matter. Ban all guns and the cartel will fill the void. You want shit like this to stop, you gotta ban firearms, create a new government agency to confiscate them (or beef up an existing one), declare war on cartels, and shut down the Southern border.

Ain't no fucking way. You want to be safe stay strapped yourself.

Bring back mental institutions.

 

[TheResister]

Guy shot 31 people, killing 18. Still on the loose. Had threatened a mass shooting in the past and was sent to a psych ward because he was hearing voices? Why the fuck did they allow this nut job to possess firearms?

Here is the more important question:

What kind of society KNOWINGLY allows people who pose an immediate threat to themselves and / or others run amok in public?

The only choices the politicians give you is to ban firearms or institute Red Flag Gun Laws.

Firearm bans are unconstitutional.
Red Flag Gun Laws empower the government to circumvent the Fourth Amendment and deny you due process. What is the answer?

Pass a law requiring police, mental health officials, clergy, etc. to immediately report any threat or other language that implies imminent harm to that person or others. That law would direct the police to detain that person and bring them before a magistrate.

The magistrate would be able to hear the evidence and put a 72 hour hold on the accused, pending a mental health examination and assessment to determine if that individual should be put into protective custody and supervised by mental health officials. The accused would be entitled to an attorney (at taxpayer expense if they can't afford it.)

The next section of the bill would make it a felony to falsely accuse anyone of having made such threat or other language as described in this post. That would eliminate the revenge and harassment kinds of accusations usually seen in lovers spats and so forth.

If someone is in a mental health facility being treated, they can't get a firearm, run others down with an automobile, stab them, etc.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

What kind of society KNOWINGLY allows people who pose an immediate threat to themselves and / or others run amok in public?

the ones who need to create a problem so they can save the day with the answer

 

[Vercingetorix]

 

[TheResister]

the ones who need to create a problem so they can save the day with the answer

Hegelian Dialectics is the ploy used by those who manipulate the narrative via psychopolitics.

 

[CuriousFiend]

Hegelian Dialectics is the ploy used by those who manipulate the narrative via psychopolitics.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

Hegelian Dialectics is the ploy used by those who manipulate the narrative via psychopolitics.

Yes, most on here are stupid and require vague answers not to be triggered.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

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I wonder if that is the real thing or close to it.???would not be surprised

 

[TheResister]

Yes, most on here are stupid and require vague answers not to be triggered.

Most of the American people have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to react to certain stimuli. In this case it is certain buzz words and phrases. I once worked with a guy that used to tell all the young kids that came to work with us, " A man that don't use his brain may as well been born with two assholes." It's a sad commentary on the way the whole country has become.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

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Disgusting how accurate this is these days.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Disgusting how accurate this is these days.

 

[Joe King]

Pass a law requiring police, mental health officials, clergy, etc. to immediately report any threat or other language that implies imminent harm to that person or others. That law would direct the police to detain that person and bring them before a magistrate.

The magistrate would be able to hear the evidence and put a 72 hour hold on the accused, pending a mental health examination and assessment to determine if that individual should be put into protective custody and supervised by mental health officials. The accused would be entitled to an attorney (at taxpayer expense if they can't afford it.)

The next section of the bill would make it a felony to falsely accuse anyone of having made such threat or other language as described in this post. That would eliminate the revenge and harassment kinds of accusations usually seen in lovers spats and so forth.

If someone is in a mental health facility being treated, they can't get a firearm, run others down with an automobile, stab them, etc.

Yea, but as soon as the 72 hours is up they'll go do whatever they were gonna do before. Prolly even more, because now they're pissed off too.

The "answer", is to require everyone to be armed to the teeth. That way if anyone acts up with their gun in a criminal manner, everyone else pops a cap in 'em.

It'll be a bit messy at first, but things will eventually sort themselves out as the ne'er do wells slowly learn what'll happen if they act a fool.

 

[weaponoffreedom]

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years ago in AFG, we found fighters with Adidas magazine chest rigs, designed for the AK47.

 

[Rebarcock.]

Blowed his brains out next to a dumpster. Should have just got in the dumpster then did it.

2 holes in the knoggin isn't suicide
Next day dude kilt hisself in TX instead of listening to the crazy

 

[Rebarcock.]

Most of the American people have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to react to certain stimuli. In this case it is certain buzz words and phrases. I once worked with a guy that used to tell all the young kids that came to work with us, " A man that don't use his brain may as well been born with two assholes." It's a sad commentary on the way the whole country has become.

You fucking wingnut no name lover

 

[Rebarcock.]

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Morons from as close as the internet all over us like skeeter. Get off the like bike. Tell the other bots I'll ask them nicely. Leave my shit alone w the creepy crawlies shit

No one like as fast as ya dixk baggers

 

[TheResister]

Yea, but as soon as the 72 hours is up they'll go do whatever they were gonna do before. Prolly even more, because now they're pissed off too.

The "answer", is to require everyone to be armed to the teeth. That way if anyone acts up with their gun in a criminal manner, everyone else pops a cap in 'em.

It'll be a bit messy at first, but things will eventually sort themselves out as the ne'er do wells slowly learn what'll happen if they act a fool.

You're presuming that shooters are sane people. Many (virtually all) mass shooters are already on SSRIs and known to exhibit homicidal and suicidal tendencies. The evaluation will weed them out and get them into mental health facilities.

America already has the potential to be armed to the teeth. We have more firearms than people. Yet it seems that there aren't many armed citizens around when a mass shooter is active.

 

[TheResister]

You fucking wingnut no name lover

It takes one to know one.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

Yea, but as soon as the 72 hours is up they'll go do whatever they were gonna do before. Prolly even more, because now they're pissed off too.

The "answer", is to require everyone to be armed to the teeth. That way if anyone acts up with their gun in a criminal manner, everyone else pops a cap in 'em.

It'll be a bit messy at first, but things will eventually sort themselves out as the ne'er do wells slowly learn what'll happen if they act a fool.

So in a free country to want to “require” everyone to carry a gun?

I’m assuming you’re trolling but just in case you aren’t feel free to explain that hot take.

As @TheResister points out there are already more guns than people in this country. A lack of guns clearly isn’t the problem.

 

[Rebarcock.]

So in a free country to want to “require” everyone to carry a gun?

I’m assuming you’re trolling but just in case you aren’t feel free to explain that hot take.

As @TheResister points out there are already more guns than people in this country. A lack of guns clearly isn’t the problem.

I'd probably shoot you snipe hunting you rigarremole

 

[Rebarcock.]

It takes one to know one.

Purse your lips on your puss

 

[Joe King]

You're presuming that shooters are sane people. Many (virtually all) mass shooters are already on SSRIs and known to exhibit homicidal and suicidal tendencies. The evaluation will weed them out and get them into mental health facilities.

No, what I presume is that far more people would be reported under such a system than that system will rightfully find to a problem.

America already has the potential to be armed to the teeth. We have more firearms than people. Yet it seems that there aren't many armed citizens around when a mass shooter is active.

Exactly. So require being armed everywhere. Anyone acts a fool with their gun, they'll have a dozen people shooting back at them. That threat alone, will put the kabosh on most of these shootings.
....and then no need for laws restricting the Peoples 2A and 4A Rights.


Most of these shootings happen in so-called "gun free zones" where the perp knows that he'll meet less (if any) resistance. Why? because people who obey the law typically refrain from carrying guns where the law disallows it. Criminals bent on destruction see gun free zones as fertile shooting grounds.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

I'd probably shoot you snipe hunting you rigarremole

I’m not surprised that you would be out snipe hunting.

 

[Rebarcock.]

I’m not surprised that you would be out snipe hunting.

I only snipe at night

 

[Joe King]

As @TheResister points out there are already more guns than people in this country. A lack of guns clearly isn’t the problem.

A lack of guns in the right peoples hands, is the problem.

So in a free country to want to “require” everyone to carry a gun?

Every able bodied person, sure. However, if they don't want to there'd be no penalty, but if you fail to carry for your protection and someone robs you, your case goes to the bottom of the list, as you failed to take basic steps necessary to protect yourself from being robbed in the first place.

I’m assuming you’re trolling but just in case you aren’t feel free to explain that hot take.

Perhaps a bit, as I fully realize that my exceedingly good proposal would never be acted upon by such a criminal coddling government as our current one is.


I just think it's pretty dumb that some people think that writing more words on paper and calling it official, will stop or deter anyone who is already willing to commit murder.

All that does is to provide more ways to punish them after the fact.

For example, putting a sign at the school entrance declaring it a gun free zone, only works for those already inclined to not carry in a school.
...but for those inclined to commit violence, it reads to them that there is easy pickin's beyond this sign.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

A lack of guns in the right peoples hands, is the problem.


Every able bodied person, sure. However, if they don't want to there'd be no penalty, but if you fail to carry for your protection and someone robs you, your case goes to the bottom of the list, as you failed to take basic steps necessary to protect yourself from being robbed in the first place.


Perhaps a bit, as I fully realize that my exceedingly good proposal would never be acted upon by such a criminal coddling government as our current one is.


I just think it's pretty dumb that some people think that writing more words on paper and calling it official, will stop or deter anyone who is already willing to commit murder.

All that does is to provide more ways to punish them after the fact.

For example, putting a sign at the school entrance declaring it a gun free zone, only works for those already inclined to not carry in a school.
...but for those inclined to commit violence, it reads to them that there is easy pickin's beyond this sign.

Well I appreciate you recognizing how insane it would be to “require” every able bodied person to carry a gun but the notion that people should be treated differently under the law than those that don’t is somehow more insane (and a clear violation of the 14th amendment).

Furthermore, who gets to decide who the “right” people are? Sounds like the same problems red flag laws have but without the common sense intentions that red flag laws rely on.

Obviously soft targets aren’t ideal but creating obvious problems isn’t the solution.

Put two law enforcement officers (minimum) in every school as well as any other soft target that needs protection. Let’s actually solve some of these problems instead of just making them worse.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

I only snipe at night

Any good snipe hunt takes place a night.

If you got folks out snipe hunting during the day then you’re just cruel.

 

[Rebarcock.]

Any good snipe hunt takes place a night.

If you got folks out snipe hunting during the day then you’re just cruel.

A good day time snipe hunt can be fun. In the South you just have to sure there is plenty of water is wet until it drys.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

A good day time snipe hunt can be fun. In the South you just have to sure there is plenty of water is wet until ot drys.

Well at least you give people water!

Snipe hunts during the day are hilarious but they usually allow them to catch on too quick!

 

[Joe King]

Furthermore, who gets to decide who the “right” people are?

The "right" people are the ones you see in public who are not engaging in criminal behavior against others or their property.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

The "right" people are the ones you see in public who are not engaging in criminal behavior against others or their property.

So if a manic schizophrenic happens to not being committing crime you think they are the “right” person to secure society against criminals…

 

[Joe King]

So if a manic schizophrenic happens to not being committing crime you think they are the “right” person to secure society against criminals…

All I care about is that people respect other peoples Rights.

If the only way to do that is for the criminals/psychos/schizo's to know that as soon as they pull their shit, they'll be shot dead, so be it.

As it stands now, criminals walk around armed. So why shouldn't their potential victims be armed too?

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

All I care about is that people respect other peoples Rights.

If the only way to do that is for the criminals/psychos/schizo's to know that as soon as they pull their shit, they'll be shot dead, so be it.

As it stands now, criminals walk around armed. So why shouldn't their potential victims be armed too?

You certainly don’t have to convince me that people should be armed.

I just am smart enough to know that two wrongs don’t make a right and that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[Joe King]

You certainly don’t have to convince me that people should be armed.

That's the only way the criminals will learn to not do their criminal shit.

As it stands now, we create zones that are supposed to gun free, but all that ends up doing is creating the places where 95%+ of all the shootings take place.

 

[Jake Broe Stan]

That's the only way the criminals will learn to not do their criminal shit.

As it stands now, we create zones that are supposed to gun free, but all that ends up doing is creating the places where 95%+ of all the shootings take place.

That’s not really where 95% of all shootings take place though.

Sure, we have seen plenty of school shootings but there are 100x more random street shootings. Add on the Walmart, concerts, festivals, etc. and you end up realizing that shootings are going to happen wherever criminals / shit people are.

Putting armed resource officers in schools hasn’t stopped them from being targets either. Could arming every teacher that wants to be decrease the likelihood of a school being targeted? I’d say it’s likely but not significantly more likely. You certainly aren’t ever going to get to zero which is what it would take to appease the anti-gun crowd.