Each apostle broke off and created their own Christianity based off what they supposedly learned.
But where's Judas' book?
No where, cuz it's all made tf up.

But where's Judas' book?
No where, cuz it's all made tf up.
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Huh?@TheFiend it seems like you like to play devils advocate, and get stuck on small details. Honest question: Are you slow, like mentally slow? Or just like to argue? Or just like to sway those with faith away from faith, using logic given to Eve by the snake?
Ahh, yeah that's right. Sorry man, I forgot we'd previously discussed this in (The covenant was with Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob (Israel), then Ephraim and Manasseh. God promised land, numerous descendants, and blessing to all nations through them.
I could be mistaken, but going off what I can vaguely recall from the heraldry thread, this group would probably be descendants of the Nordic Europeans from Scandinavia, which I think were speculated as potentially descending from at least 4 of the original tribes.Now think which group has benefited the world the most.
Presumably meant rhetorically, although I ain't passing up an opportunity to indulge my favorite hobby of public antisemitism.Also, what grip is everyone against?
For real, @AmericanViking, thanks man. I genuinely do appreciate your perspectives and insights.Judah will always hold the scepter since David. The stone of destiny is believed to be in Scotland and every king/queen has been sworn in on it.
Jacob had 12 children. All twelve became their own tribe. Dan, Asher, Judah, Benjamin, Levi, Gad, etc.
The Israelites divided into northern Israel and southern Israel (Judah & Benjamin). The northern nation was made up of the other 10 tribes.
The northern tribes started worshiping false gods. The Assyrians came in and conquered them. God “divorced” those tribes and the Assyrians would send conquered peoples away from their homeland. Those are the 10 lost tribes.
Those tribes may have become the Scythians and many believe they are the lost sheep Yeshua came for and who would spread the word of Christ. They ended up in Europe.
There are two reasons for divorce accepted by Yahweh, adultery and leaving a non-believer. Those are allowed to remarry. The other allowed to remarry is a widow.
When He divorced the 10 tribes they were never allowed to remarry again and were out of covenant since they were non-believers and in sin.
In comes Yeshua. When He died that allowed them to “remarry” and be brought back into covenant. There’s a reason Yahweh uses marriage as an example so much in the New Testament.
Dan is out for good (most likely Scandinavian peoples) Joseph became Ephraim and Manasseh (his sons). So there are still 12 tribes but two are out of covenant (Judah and Benjamin). They’ll come back in eventually.
These are my thoughts through study. Many disagree with replacement theology in Protestantism. So definitely don’t take my word for it. You’ll have to do your own study and teach your own conclusions.
Ahh, yeah that's right. Sorry man, I forgot we'd previously discussed this in (I think it was) a thread about heraldry by @Rebarcock.
I could be mistaken, but going off what I can vaguely recall from the heraldry thread, this group would probably be descendants of the Nordic Europeans from Scandinavia, which I think were speculated as potentially descending from at least 4 of the original tribes.
Something like;
•Denmark: Tribe of Dan
•Finland: Tribe of Issachar
•Iceland: Tribe of Benjamin
•Norway: Tribe of Naphtali
Presumably meant rhetorically, although I ain't passing up an opportunity to indulge my favorite hobby of public antisemitism.
This grip, or group, would probably be the pernicious cult of the jew. (*I'm unsure which tribe/s they descend from. Guessing maybe Judah, Benjamin.....& possibly Levi(?))
For real, @AmericanViking, thanks man. I genuinely do appreciate your perspectives and insights.
door to door pedos in the making.Yesterday I found a handwritten letter in each of my mailboxes, all addressed from the local Jehovah's Witnesses down the road.
All three letters are more or less a brief text version of a typical wandering door-to-door JW recruitment pitch.
Really wouldn't have much of a clue regarding JWs, butt curious to learn more about the different christians so maybe I should go try out for the JWs.
....dunno if they'd be cool with my raging antisemitism and whatnot though.
How do other christians see/or relate to JWs? Are they all good? Or nah?
What's their whole Watchtower dealio all about?
None, and all at the same time. There is no group think doctrine, or race, or whatever that are correct.Oh, I just meant (as an extraneous sidenote) that the particular information won't be found in any bible (nor wiki) simply because it's analytical &/or statistical. That's all.
Not sure what you mean. I was seeking your clarification regarding that example you'd presented, which seems to use a false assertion about me; specifically that I had posted something alluding to christians being the real enemy of christianity, (*which I do not recall posting).
So either I've forgotten making the post you referred to—otherwise you were mistaken and the post doesn't exist?
Which terms are you demanding I show you? Also, which version of the NT am I expected to search for you?
Ok. So some christians have true faith in christ and some don't.
Tbh I'm unsure what true faith in christ entails, however I'm wondering if, just as an example, you could clarify which of the following 13 randomly selected christian denominations have true faith in christ vs which do not?
•Eastern Orthodoxy?
•Protestantism?
•Anglicanism?
•Methodism?
•Catholic Church?
•Evangelical Free Church of America?
•Palmarian Catholic Church?
•Presbyterianism?
•Lutheran?
•Nontrinitarianism?
•Adventism?
•Baptists?
•Calvinism?
*Edit; to add the following 2 to the above list:
•Born Again?
•Jehovah's Witness?
Zionism, zionist jews, zionist Christians etcWhich terms are you demanding I show you? Also, which version of the NT am I expected to search for you?
Wow, I didn't know that about the rapture. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, so basically the rapture narrative is a fabrication?None, and all at the same time. There is no group think doctrine, or race, or whatever that are correct.
To your point, all denominations have information that they have to OMIT, for their opinion to be true. This is foundationally false. Rapture for instance, is not in the bible, yet is taught throughout many denominations.
There is a difference in the Church, and faith, many see them hand in hand.
Now regarding your request for me to find these particular terms in the NT; I must admit I don't understand what purpose this exercise would serve, at least beyond basic semantics or perhaps simply proving a point of (imo) irrelevance. (*no offense intended*)Zionism, zionist jews, zionist Christians etc

From The Track of the jew Through the Ages - Alfred RosenbergTo be sure many peoples have emerged as conquerors, many personalities have risen to be rulers.
This striving for power is not at all to be condemned unconditionally, and often even a moral necessity; ancient Rome, for example, saw itself in the midst of a mixture of peoples; in order to protect his family, his state, the Roman had to surround himself with a solid bulwark.
He carried laws, order and customs into the conquered lands, and only when new tribes swamped Rome, when Syrians, Africans, degenerate soldier emperors took control, did justified will to power become untrammelled greed for power, and Rome lost its strength thereby.
Even in Bismarck and Napoleon there existed an enormous will to power, but whereas in the first it was controlled and ennobled by a high idea, in the other the will to power raced without limitation
throughout Europe.
I can, in contrast to all pacifists, see no crime in the will to power itself, the one and only thing that is decisive is the
character of the people or of the personality that stands behind it.
Sometimes a social, civilisatory, cultural idea can be realised thereby, at other times plundered countries and peoples are the consequence of a ramification of power.
Now, everywhere that the Jewish
character has been at work, we see it, even in the highest development of its power, marked by total sterility.
Never has a people shown such a greed for power as the Jewish, not striving for some accomplishments but merely because it considered itself as "chosen",
but never has a people been able to do so little with the acquired power as, again, the Jewish.
The slave feeling which is indeed the
characteristic Jewish gospel with regard to god (not the feeling of a child, as among the Indo-Europeans) penetrates the Jew deep into his blood; but that the slave thereafter demands most greedily to play the lord, that the slave who has become a knight however rides his horse to death, are both easy to understand.
The power instinct of the Jews is therefore of a different sort than that of the ancient Romans, Alexander, Bismarck,
Napoleon.
He does not as a lord demand respect and obedience naturally, the Jew as a personality does not stand openly before his work, but he goes on his way through intrigue, lies, deceit and assassination, he stands as a secret assistant feeling like a communist behind all the corridors of destructive work.
The entire Jewish history provides proofs thereof.
Thus have we precisely outlined the type and manner of the Jewish character.
Now it is self-evident that this character expresses itself not only instinctively but also finds its conscious imprint in writing.
Enough has been written about the literature of the ancient times, I should just like to point briefly to the promise
that they will be able to devour all peoples whom God would hand over to the Jews, that princesses would be their nurses, that all silver and gold would one day belong to them, that all would fall at their feet to lick the dust thereof, and that the Jews would suck milk from the heathen and the breasts of queens would suckle them.
I do not wish to go closer into all that.
But these old thoughts were never forgotten.
Over and over again emerges the unbridled greed for rule of this world as a principal "legitimate" claim.
The Holy One spoke to the Israelites: "You have made me the sole ruler of the world, so I shall make you the sole rulers in this world".
If in any country Jews attained influential positions, if the position of the Jewish community consequently developed in a
brilliant manner, this power was often seen as the first sign of the coming world-rulership.
Thus did the Jews, for example, live under Leo X in such an intoxication that they inquired in Jerusalem if the signs of an
imminent salvation were not manifest.
Thus did a David Reubeni appear in Rome with the very exciting news that, under the command of his brother, a great army stood assembled which now only need
armaments in order to conquer the Holy Land.
He betrayed though his speeches not only the Jews but also the Pope who provided him with recommendations.
David travelled through Italy celebrated like a king.
Then he travelled to Germany, where he was captured and later met an ignominious end.
A similar type of person was Sabbatai Zevi who promised the world to depose the Sultan and then free Palestine from Turkish rule.
He travelled to Constantinople, was captured and became - a Mohammedan.
Adventurers of this type who seem totally pathological Judaism has brought forth in great numbers.
In the Zohar, the notorious masterpiece of the Kabbala, the Jewish hope finds the following expression: "When the 60th and
66th year have crossed the threshold of the first millennium of the world (65060/66, i.e. 1300/1306) the Messiah will appear, but some time yet will elapse before all the peoples are conquered and Israel is gathered together".
When a certain Mordechai rose in Persia
to become a high notable ofthe state, the people coined the following verse: Mordechai is a brilliant prince, Powerful in rule, loved by the king and great men, His name is on the lips of the great and small,
God bestowed rule on the holy people in his time.
These thought-processes return over and over again.
We already heard some Jewish Freemasons speak in the 19th century, also the "German" poet Heinrich Heine.
He knew what he was saying when he wrote the story of a shepherd and his herd.
And in his posthumous works one finds a significant confession that every German must take note of: "Is the mission of
the Jews finished? I think when the worldly Messiah comes: Industry, Work, Joy. The worldly Messiah will come in a railway train. Michael builds the way for him". (Since 1933 Michael has finally awakened).
I would not like to take leave of expressions from the Jewish past without mentioning in conclusion a personality who seems to me in every aspect to be the embodiment of all that Judaism can be characterised as: Isaac Orobio de Castro (1616-1627), unquestionably one of the most significant Jews of his time.
He first emerged as a professor of philosophy in Salamanca, was then
handed over to the Inquisitional court, travelled to France after his release, where he became professor of medicine in Toulouse.
Later he travelled to Amsterdam, where he ended his days.
In the world-view of this man are revealed to us the characteristic limitation of the Jewish mind and the relentless will of the Jewish character working together to produce a characteristic unity.
This world-view is based on the typically Jewish supporting columns of an unchangeable dogma (in this case the law of Sinai), hatred of Christians and Jewish world-rule.
With sure instinct he repudiates the absoluteness of the prophets (who indeed strove in vain to reform the obstinate Jewry).
"The recognition of the true God does not in any way depend on the prophetic revelations. God commanded to his people the cult with which they should serve him, and this cult is independent of what the prophets had to announce to them further".
"The prophets, who are the oracle of Christianity, and without whom the Christians could not have made a Messiah unto themselves, have followed the laws with conscientiousness, their
prophecies are filled only with warnings to the children of Israel to ensure that they keep the law given by Moses. And what may not these be against those who neglect it? If it is God who has made the law, if it has been written in his hand, if it has been declared from his mouth, then it is untouchable and nothing can be changed in it without it ceasing to exist".
"One cannot believe that God has held his people so long to the fulfilling of his law, which he gave on Mt. Sinai and then repeated word for word on Mt. Horeb, if this were imperfect".
This thought-process returns with great stubbornness in many places.
Such a small-mindedness was transferred to the Roman Catholic principle where the Old Testament Will achieved a victory over free-thought.
But Origen could still write: "If we keep to the letter and understand that which was written in the law in the manner of the common people, I would have to blush to acknowledge that it was God who gave these laws. Then the laws of men, for example, the Romans, the Athenians, Spartans, would be more excellent and
reasonable".
Origen was indeed a free man, but the view of the "common people" has won, until today when a second Reformation
stands at the door to remove the Jewish mind entirely and to release the New Testament finally from the clasp of the Old.
De Castro cannot satisfy himself, and rightly, in providing proofs that Christ could never ever have been the Messiah promised to the Jews.
"What has he fulfilled of the prophecies? Did he ever have power over the Israelites? He did not sit on the throne of David, he did not hold his people in the truth, his family was one of the most common, and his deeds prove that he was not the rightful Messiah".
If it says that at the time of the Messiah all the righteous of his people, all the refugees from Israel from all fourquarters of the world would be gathered together, the mind captivated by the Christian religion must admit that Christ did not do that.
"Who are the poor of the world whom he has justly judged? Did he possess any worthy Sanhedrin to which alone God has given the right to judge?"

yes 100%the rapture narrative is a fabrication?
Which? This is a commonly held but falsely obtained POV, when it come to Christ. Christianity and Christ unfortunately different things. Inherent? I think not.....contradiction inherent to christianity
You presume correctlyAre any of these specific terms found in the NT? I presume they are not.
Yes, you referenced the bible in context of zionism etc. They are not in the bible, so, they cannot be used in an argument for/against the bible or Christianity.Prior to your initial request, did I claim any of those specific terms were to be found in the NT? Pretty sure I did not.
yes 100%
Which? This is a commonly held but falsely obtained POV, when it come to Christ. Christianity and Christ unfortunately different things. Inherent? I think not.....
You presume correctly
Yes, you referenced the bible in context of zionism etc. They are not in the bible, so, they cannot be used in an argument for/against the bible or Christianity.
Most who call themselves "Christians" are not. Most Churches teach doctrines that are only a few hundred years old, and false. Dispensationalism.
I can link you to a video that explains why Zionism is not really a thing, and further explain the situation. Youtube video about 30 minutes long. If you have a bible, you can follow along. Would you like to see it?

Wtf do you need to know? I can document most of it. I know some long history w the Green Isle under siege currently by a foreign army.Ahh, yeah that's right. Sorry man, I forgot we'd previously discussed this in (I think it was) a thread about heraldry by @Rebarcock.
I could be mistaken, but going off what I can vaguely recall from the heraldry thread, this group would probably be descendants of the Nordic Europeans from Scandinavia, which I think were speculated as potentially descending from at least 4 of the original tribes.
Something like;
•Denmark: Tribe of Dan
•Finland: Tribe of Issachar
•Iceland: Tribe of Benjamin
•Norway: Tribe of Naphtali
Presumably meant rhetorically, although I ain't passing up an opportunity to indulge my favorite hobby of public antisemitism.
This grip, or group, would probably be the pernicious cult of the jew. (*I'm unsure which tribe/s they descend from. Guessing maybe Judah, Benjamin.....& possibly Levi(?))
For real, @AmericanViking, thanks man. I genuinely do appreciate your perspectives and insights.
I was raised hard-corp Catholic. The good guys taught me the truth. I love the true Orthodoxy churches. God's word doesnt change. It gets deleted. The deleted version is what we have now. But I believe in Bigfoot and Space Force.The shield maiden and I realized the rapture is modern doctrine. We follow Christian Orthodoxy but also have disagreements with them based on study. You’ll never get us to Catholicism though. I really like the orthodox cross.
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Rapture is a fabrication, sum guy lead a few thousand people up on a hill to watch a color spectral in the sky, claiming Jesus was on his way back.Wow, I didn't know that about the rapture. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, so basically the rapture narrative is a fabrication?
the only real answers u can ever rely on come from within.Stuff like this is why I think it's crucial to directly inquire with knowledgeable individuals such as yourself and @AmericanViking.
Christians are masked demons. Just refute any passage of the bible as a refabrication of what once was historical oral tradition. Christians are the worst when it comes to the historical cover up of reality. Christianity only goes back maybe 6k yrs while true history is millions of years in the making.Speaking from a strictly non-religious pov, it seems there's a great deal of unavoidable ambiguity and contradiction inherent to christianity overall which (imo) generally evokes a sort of repellant effect for non-religious persons, (regardless whether or not they may be genuinely), attempting to engage with the subject.
Christians always want U to do the footwork bc a. their either too lazy to thibk for themselves or b. they just don't actually know shit abt shit but want u to believe they know what their talking abt. Sum real Jesus shit.Now regarding your request for me to find these particular terms in the NT; I must admit I don't understand what purpose this exercise would serve, at least beyond basic semantics or perhaps simply proving a point of (imo) irrelevance. (*no offense intended*)
NT is the manufactured subversion of the original OT.Are any of these specific terms found in the NT? I presume they are not.
Nope, but that's the subversion of a Christian. They claim Jesus came to save us but ultimately cldnt even save himself, leaving the rest of mankind to figure it all out on our own still. Just a subverted/introverted version of the OT, where/when God wld visit man mentally/physically. Man misused that divine connection and god said f all that & destroyed the world & then restarted it with an incestuous fag, Noah. Sin wasnt reset then nor in jesus time. Who has been a fictional character ever since the jesuit romans who seethed for infiltration of the deepest inner workings of Romes empire, needed a way to combat Mitheras, a pagan half man half god occult which ironically built 99% of the life story of jesus.Prior to your initial request, did I claim any of those specific terms were to be found in the NT? Pretty sure I did not.
oy vey, to have to say jew that many times w/put offending sum 1, there's definitely bound to be a jew hiding as a whitey who gets offended.In the hopes of dispelling any lingering misunderstanding, whenever I use terms such as those specified, they're generally only intended in a loosely referential sense. I could (and often do) use/or substitute terms like zionism, zionist jews, zionist christians, etc, with various other (imo) generally synonymous terms intended in the same loosely referential sense, such as: talmudism, talmudic jews, talmudic christians, etc.
They claim Jesus came to save us but ultimately cldnt even save himself, leaving the rest of mankind to figure it all out on our own still.

John Nelson DarbyRapture is a fabrication, sum guy
Not even close. The NT is a fulfillment of the OT.NT is the manufactured subversion of the original OT.
the 4 wheels of heliosGod tells us who will destroy us
Notice a trend?
- 1. Conquest (White Horse):
The rider on the white horse is often interpreted as Conquest or religious deception, holding a bow and appearing as a symbol of power and the spread of influences.- 2. War (Red Horse):
The rider of the red horse carries a great sword and has the power to cause violent bloodshed, hatred, and strife among humanity.- 3. Famine (Black Horse):
The rider on the black horse holds a pair of scales, symbolizing the scarcity of food and widespread famine that will plague the earth.- 4. Death (Green Horse):
The rider of the pale horse, named Death, follows closely behind the others and is accompanied by Hades (the underworld).
by your interpretations or medieval interpretations?John Nelson Darby
Not even close. The NT is a fulfillment of the OT.
fulfillment of what? full cuckery?John Nelson Darby
Not even close. The NT is a fulfillment of the OT.
cuz u just can't let another man think for himself whether right or wrong.This shows how ignorant you are while trolling as a know it all. I’ll say a prayer for you but you can’t argue with ignorant so blocked.
was I Pimp'n when I was getting bjs at 10 yrs old or when I was fuckn mom's when I was 13?cuz u just can't let another man think for himself whether right or wrong.
All Christians demand to be the prevailer but end up being cucks in the end.
Notice how there's no debate, just an absolute and final declaration of knowing all?
Christians.
do tell how it was my fault that the state allowed a female Jewish Christian psycologists, 3 to be exact, to court order me into their sexually abusive care?
bc they believed in Jesus more than me?
or bc i was new to my faith?
oh that's right im blocked bc I will not be lead astray from the word of God that's within me before a book that's been subverted for centuries.
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The new testament is the fulfillment of Gods promise to man. The fulfillment of the prophecy of the old testament.fulfillment of what? full cuckery?![]()
and what promise was that?The new testament is the fulfillment of Gods promise to man. The fulfillment of the prophecy of the old testament.