Is this not one of, if not the, most insane moment in all of human history?

[BigBucnNole]

Stalin giving October Revolution speech with the Nazi's less than 15 miles outside of Moscow. The troops marched through and straight to the front to fight in the most cataclysmic war in history.

 

[Oler Ted]

Stalin giving October Revolution speech with the Nazi's less than 15 miles outside of Moscow. The troops marched through and straight to the front to fight in the most cataclysmic war in history.

Wow seriously never had this perspective before

 

[BigBucnNole]

Wow seriously never had this perspective before

It’s a crazy period. Soviet troops from Siberia were arriving, Stalin have that speech and the parade, and then the counter attack was launched and it drove the Germans off of the city and reversed a lot of their gain.

 

[America 1st]

I thought OP might be talking about why a couple thousand of these haven't been used on China.



Stalin is rightly viewed as a tyrant but massively undervalued from a leadership perspective.

 

[RJ2kWJ]

I thought OP might be talking about why a couple thousand of these haven't been used on China.



Stalin is rightly viewed as a tyrant but massively undervalued from a leadership perspective.

I watched the Ford leave port for her first time. I think she’s going back home to get worked on a bit.

 

[Cre8ive]

Sailors call it a nuclear fart.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Stalin is rightly viewed as a tyrant but massively undervalued from a leadership perspective.

I don't think he was any better or worse than Hitler by and large. Stalin eventually trusted his generals. What won that war for them was the hard Russian culture.

99% of wars ever fought is always one side overwhelmingly more powerful than the other. And that makes sense, otherwise wars would never be fought. However, you had the coalition wars of the 18th century, but those were more or less teams fighting one another for specific goals. Of the epic titanic clashes the last thousand years, they've involved to some degree the Russian/ Asian steppe.

Mongols come to mind first and foremost but it was a group out of more of less Siberia fighting a lord of the rings titanic war with the Chinese for nearly 75 years. An amazing story you never hear about were the Mongols demanding the surrender of the Russian princes, and to a man they said no and I believe all were killed in a single battle of two. Then you had the invasions and bloodiest war of the 1700's by Frederick the Great, you had the Napoleonic Wars, you had the Germans in WW1 & 2.

I think the easiest place to invade geographically is Russia. It's wide and open during the spring and summer. And I think the group of people that have inhabited that area for so many years are the hardest people on the planet. Because they haven't been dislodged. Stalin didn't help those people win the war anymore than the fact they are fanatical and willing to fight like no one else on the planet.

WW3 to some degree, after the bombs have fallen, will be fought on the Russian Steppe.

 

[America 1st]

I don't think he was any better or worse than Hitler by and large. Stalin eventually trusted his generals. What won that war for them was the hard Russian culture.

99% of wars ever fought is always one side overwhelmingly more powerful than the other. And that makes sense, otherwise wars would never be fought. However, you had the coalition wars of the 18th century, but those were more or less teams fighting one another for specific goals. Of the epic titanic clashes the last thousand years, they've involved to some degree the Russian/ Asian steppe.

Mongols come to mind first and foremost but it was a group out of more of less Siberia fighting a lord of the rings titanic war with the Chinese for nearly 75 years. An amazing story you never hear about were the Mongols demanding the surrender of the Russian princes, and to a man they said no and I believe all were killed in a single battle of two. Then you had the invasions and bloodiest war of the 1700's by Frederick the Great, you had the Napoleonic Wars, you had the Germans in WW1 & 2.

I think the easiest place to invade geographically is Russia. It's wide and open during the spring and summer. And I think the group of people that have inhabited that area for so many years are the hardest people on the planet. Because they haven't been dislodged. Stalin didn't help those people win the war anymore than the fact they are fanatical and willing to fight like no one else on the planet.

WW3 to some degree, after the bombs have fallen, will be fought on the Russian Steppe.

I disagree in that Stalin's geopolitics during and after the war were sound.

Sure the Russians do their Russian thing but the expanse of the Soviet Empire, the development of the bomb, lend lease, and many other "wins" for the Russian people had his fingerprints on them.

He has plenty of bad but he didn't run his country into oblivion like Hitler did at the least.

The rest of yore points I'd agree with tho.

 

[Hoosier in Mad Town]

This one is pretty good

 

[hmt5000]

I don't think he was any better or worse than Hitler by and large. Stalin eventually trusted his generals. What won that war for them was the hard Russian culture.

99% of wars ever fought is always one side overwhelmingly more powerful than the other. And that makes sense, otherwise wars would never be fought. However, you had the coalition wars of the 18th century, but those were more or less teams fighting one another for specific goals. Of the epic titanic clashes the last thousand years, they've involved to some degree the Russian/ Asian steppe.

Mongols come to mind first and foremost but it was a group out of more of less Siberia fighting a lord of the rings titanic war with the Chinese for nearly 75 years. An amazing story you never hear about were the Mongols demanding the surrender of the Russian princes, and to a man they said no and I believe all were killed in a single battle of two. Then you had the invasions and bloodiest war of the 1700's by Frederick the Great, you had the Napoleonic Wars, you had the Germans in WW1 & 2.

I think the easiest place to invade geographically is Russia. It's wide and open during the spring and summer. And I think the group of people that have inhabited that area for so many years are the hardest people on the planet. Because they haven't been dislodged. Stalin didn't help those people win the war anymore than the fact they are fanatical and willing to fight like no one else on the planet.

WW3 to some degree, after the bombs have fallen, will be fought on the Russian Steppe.

I still think when China starts to make military moves that Russia will be one of the targets. I think Putin knows that a big chunk of his eastern half has been eyed by China for repatriation.

 

[SCTetz]

Wars are won primarily from economies and logistics.