• Pat Flood (@rebarcock) passed away 9/21/25. Pat played a huge role in encouraging the devolopmemt of this site and donated the very first dollar to get it started. Check the thread at the top of the board for the obituary and please feel free to pay your respects there. I am going to get all the content from that thread over to his family so they can see how many people really cared for Pat outside of what they ever knew. Pat loved to tell stories and always wanted everyone else to tell stories. I think a great way we can honor Pat is to tell a story in his thread (also pinned at the top of the board).

Get out of the Cities (link)....

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When the cops go and quit putting up with this shit, we will see the crumbling of urban America. When the police go, there goes the last vestige of law and order.

Rural America will bloom like no time in our history. It will be better than Saturday Evening Post covers.

 
When the cops go and quit putting up with this shit, we will see the crumbling of urban America. When the police go, there goes the last vestige of law and order.

Rural America will bloom like no time in our history. It will be better than Saturday Evening Post covers.


So those same people can more to rural America and vote for the exact same policies that ruined their home again. This is not a good thing.
 
People have already gotten the message. See this article and podcast.


"COVID has had a major impact on how we live, but what about where we live? A recent Bloomberg article shows that migrations of people from March 2020 to February 2021 accelerated a trend that was already in motion beforehand. Namely, that "[d]ense core counties of major U.S. metro areas saw a net decrease in flow into the city, while other suburbs and some smaller cities saw net gains."

In other words, people are moving outward from cities.

Why is this the case? It's largely due to the shift to remote work for many "professional," affluent people who can afford to make the move. Where workers choose to position their living situations (and their tax bases) has huge implications for how cities function and thrive. Those that have focused too heavily on being centers of employment, rather than habitation, may struggle as people shift to remote work and choose to live elsewhere.

This week on Upzoned, host Abby Kinney is joined by Strong Towns president Chuck Marohn as they "upzone" this subject—i.e., they look at it through the Strong Towns lens. They discuss what this "urban shuffle" means, considering that, from Strong Towns perspective, suburbs are less fiscally sustainable than urban centers. Will these migrations therefore lead to further insolvency for our cities?

Then in the downzone, Chuck's reading about pre-Colombian civilizations, and Abby's prepping for an exam that's coming up in November."
 

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