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BurntJ said:
Explain to me why you think Ukraine matters (to me as an American) and why is worth us American's funding it?
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Ukraine is a democracy and democratic nations have to support each other so they don’t all fall to totalitarian regimes like China and Russia would want. It vital for trade and geo-strategically for military and resource purposes.

More importantly Americans typically support freedom and are the most generous people on earth. We have always sacrificed ourselves so we could help others as is our right / choice.

And all that isn’t even counting all the great info in those tweets.

PleasureMoose said:
stop being so dense that's clearly not what I said....my reply was based off you saying 3/4 of Americans support sending aid to Ukraine.. which they do not bc they've never even heard of it

people who understand the situation and still support it should be taken to the gallows... like you
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But 3/4 of Americans do support it. You don’t get to decide for them what they know or support. Telling yourself people have no clue or don’t understand is something an 8 year old does as a coping mechanism for realities they don’t like.

Congrats on wanting to hang your fellow Americans because they want to make sure innocent civilians don’t suffer under a communist regime. Sooooo patriotic of you.
 
American Deplorable said:
Ukraine is a democracy and democratic nations have to support each other so they don’t all fall to totalitarian regimes like China and Russia would want. It vital for trade and geo-strategically for military and resource purposes.

More importantly Americans typically support freedom and are the most generous people on earth. We have always sacrificed ourselves so we could help others as is our right / choice.

And all that isn’t even counting all the great info in those tweets.


But 3/4 of Americans do support it. You don’t get to decide for them what they know or support. Telling yourself people have no clue or don’t understand is something an 8 year old does as a coping mechanism for realities they don’t like.

Congrats on wanting to hang your fellow Americans because they want to make sure innocent civilians don’t suffer under a communist regime. Sooooo patriotic of you.
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South Vietnam was a so called democracy (not really, but okay). Was it a good deal for us to give up the lives of 57,000 young American men in a war that was not ours?

Also, Ukraine is not a democracy. It is an oligarchy in practice.

They shut down opposition television stations before war. They suppressed their own people in the Donbass.
 
AgEngDawg said:
South Vietnam was a so called democracy (not really, but okay). Was it a good deal for us to give up the lives of 57,000 young American men in a war that was not ours?

Also, Ukraine is not a democracy. It is an oligarchy in practice.

They shut down opposition television stations before war. They suppressed their own people in the Donbass.
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Shutting down television stations or suppressing their own people doesn’t make them any less of a democracy. The US legally interned thousands of Japanese during WW2 and we’re still a democratic republic.

Furthermore, of course I support what I and many other patriots fought for in Vietnam! America has a responsibility to her citizens to defend their interests across the whole globe. Having countries fall to communism means fewer choices and less security for Americans and I wasn’t going to allow that without a fight.
 
American Deplorable said:
Shutting down television stations or suppressing their own people doesn’t make them any less of a democracy. The US legally interned thousands of Japanese during WW2 and we’re still a democratic republic.

Furthermore, of course I support what I and many other patriots fought for in Vietnam! America has a responsibility to her citizens to defend their interests across the whole globe. Having countries fall to communism means fewer choices and less security for Americans and I wasn’t going to allow that without a fight.
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Holy Shit!!! You think the Japanese internment was a good thing? WTF!!!

We sent young men to die in the rice patties of southeast Asia for nothing. You are definitely not supporting our troops if you are for that.

57,000 died. I am not going to look up how many were maimed as that would be too depressing.

How did it work out for us?
 
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AgEngDawg said:
Holy Shit!!! You think the Japanese internment was a good thing? WTF!!!

You are an idiot if you support the Vietnam War.

We sent young men to die in the rice patties of southeast Asia for nothing. You are definitely not supporting our troops if you are for that.

57,000 died. I am not going to look up how many were maimed as that would be too depressing.

How did it work out for us?
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I didn’t say interning the Japanese was good. I said it was legal. Two different things.

You can feel however you want about those rice patties but considering I lost friends and spilled blood in those fields I think I’m capable of deciding for myself what “supporting our troops” is.
 
American Deplorable said:
Ukraine is a democracy and democratic nations have to support each other so they don’t all fall to totalitarian regimes like China and Russia would want. It vital for trade and geo-strategically for military and resource purposes.

More importantly Americans typically support freedom and are the most generous people on earth. We have always sacrificed ourselves so we could help others as is our right / choice.

And all that isn’t even counting all the great info in those tweets.


But 3/4 of Americans do support it. You don’t get to decide for them what they know or support. Telling yourself people have no clue or don’t understand is something an 8 year old does as a coping mechanism for realities they don’t like.

Congrats on wanting to hang your fellow Americans because they want to make sure innocent civilians don’t suffer under a communist regime. Sooooo patriotic of you.
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By what metric is Ukraine a Democracy? Please tell us. Shutting down opposition thought? Just last year our own Govt said it was one of the most corrupt counties in the world...its a gigantic piggy bank for Elites. Democracy? Pffffttttt
 
9Mounties07 said:
By what metric is Ukraine a Democracy? Please tell us. Shutting down opposition thought? Just last year our own Govt said it was one of the most corrupt counties in the world...its a gigantic piggy bank for Elites. Democracy? Pffffttttt
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They have elections…

What does corruption have to do with the form of government a country has?

The US is incredibly corrupt but we aren’t any less of a democratic republic because of it.
 
American Deplorable said:
I don’t trust them but Congress does have the right to tax and spend.

If you don’t like it get enough public and political support to amend The Constitution.
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You really have outdone yourself this morning.
 
AgEngDawg said:
Holy Shit!!! You think the Japanese internment was a good thing? WTF!!!

We sent young men to die in the rice patties of southeast Asia for nothing. You are definitely not supporting our troops if you are for that.

57,000 died. I am not going to look up how many were maimed as that would be too depressing.

How did it work out for us?
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I think this is John McCain spirit's troll account.

Smells an awfully lot like a rino.
 
Meanwhile Russia has cut interest rates back to pre invasion levels even as the Ruble continues to strengthen to 6 year highs after moving to back values in commodities/gold. It appears our sanctions are paper tigers, circumvented by the EU, & while India/China etal increase trade with Russia. First road bridge between China & Russia opened this week, following a recently completed rail bridge, Gasprom is about to lay down new gas pipelines through Mongolia directly into China. The west better wake up. There’s a big realignment occurring that can threaten the dollar as the reserve currency.

 
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Meanwhile Russia has cut interest rates back to pre invasion levels even as the Ruble continues to strengthen to 6 year highs after moving to back values in commodities/gold. It appears our sanctions are paper tigers, circumvented by the EU, & while India/China etal increase trade with Russia. First road bridge between China & Russia opened this week, following a recently completed rail bridge, Gasprom is about to lay down new gas pipelines through Mongolia directly into China. The west better wake up. There’s a big realignment occurring that can threaten the dollar as the reserve currency.

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And gas was $4.69 in NW Georgia today. Great.
 
American Deplorable said:
We installed a democratic government.

Just because we installed it doesn’t make it any less of a democracy.

Is this just a shitty troll? People install all governments in one way or another.
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Do you understand how democracies work? THey hold an election and the winner is president until a specified time. Usually when another country comes in and removes that president and puts their favorite in charge and start a civil war in part of the country to run out dissenters.... Not a democracy.
 
hmt5000 said:
Do you understand how democracies work? THey hold an election and the winner is president until a specified time. Usually when another country comes in and removes that president and puts their favorite in charge and start a civil war in part of the country to run out dissenters.... Not a democracy.
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Civil war doesn’t mean that the following government isn’t a democracy. See the American Revolution for context.
 
American Deplorable said:
Ukraine is a democracy and democratic nations have to support each other so they don’t all fall to totalitarian regimes like China and Russia would want. It vital for trade and geo-strategically for military and resource purposes.

More importantly Americans typically support freedom and are the most generous people on earth. We have always sacrificed ourselves so we could help others as is our right / choice.

And all that isn’t even counting all the great info in those tweets.


But 3/4 of Americans do support it. You don’t get to decide for them what they know or support. Telling yourself people have no clue or don’t understand is something an 8 year old does as a coping mechanism for realities they don’t like.

Congrats on wanting to hang your fellow Americans because they want to make sure innocent civilians don’t suffer under a communist regime. Sooooo patriotic of you.
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But you are fine with Obama and Nuland running a color revolution to install their puppet government?
 
American Deplorable said:
Civil war doesn’t mean that the following government isn’t a democracy. See the American Revolution for context.
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But France didn't come over and threaten to kill our president if we didn't put a pro French government in. It would also be naive to think that Britain wouldn't be looking at that as a threat to them since they were in proxy and direct wars for a couple centuries.
 
hmt5000 said:
But France didn't come over and threaten to kill our president if we didn't put a pro French government in. It would also be naive to think that Britain wouldn't be looking at that as a threat to them since they were in proxy and direct wars for a couple centuries.
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That isn’t really true. French philosophers were key to spreading the enlightenment ideas that lead to The American Revolution.

In a round about way France was able to separate England from here colonies via the free speech and ideas of her citizens.
 
American Deplorable said:
That isn’t really true. French philosophers were key to spreading the enlightenment ideas that lead to The American Revolution.

In a round about way France was able to separate England from here colonies via the free speech and ideas of her citizens.
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The CIA, state dept, Soros funded ngo's and even some dnc operatives were on the ground to fund and train the protesters and to pay off politicians to change the government of Ukraine to get them into the EU then nato. France righting speeches and papers isn't in the same fucking universe.



They say it on this call.
 
hmt5000 said:
The CIA, state dept, Soros funded ngo's and even some dnc operatives were on the ground to fund and train the protesters and to pay off politicians to change the government of Ukraine to get them into the EU then nato. France righting speeches and papers isn't in the same fucking universe.



They say it on this call.
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We’re taking Russia down a few pegs today because of the ground work they laid years ago.

It just goes to show that even the CIA and Democrats can do good work every once in a while.
 
American Deplorable said:
We’re taking Russia down a few pegs today because of the ground work they laid years ago.

It just goes to show that even the CIA and Democrats can do good work every once in a while.
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I mean... not just them. Our economy is looking like hell too. $40 billion in cash to Ukraine.... I guess Hunter's connections will make sure some of that money comes back to the US and finds it's way into the illegal drug trade and prostitutes.

If that is good work then god help us if they fuck up.
 

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