Do you believe the FDA will fully authorize Covid vaccine?

[ChicagoFats]

Pretty simple. What was promised in the “vaccine” (gene therapy?) is not being delivered.

We all know the Covid vaccine is currently only available under Emergency Use Only authorization.

Will the FDA give full authorization to currently available vaccines this year?

 

[Cre8ive]

Pretty simple. What was promised in the “vaccine” (gene therapy?) is not being delivered.

We all know the Covid vaccine is currently only available under Emergency Use Only authorization.

Will the FDA give full authorization to currently available vaccines this year?

Eventually, and it will be due to immense political pressure from the socialist left. But I think many states will ignore it and create a solid union of patriot states that believe in the right of all people to make a choice trump a dictate of a totalitarian political power grab.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Eventually, and it will be due to immense political pressure from the socialist left. But I think many states will ignore it and create a solid union of patriot states that believe in the right of all people to make a choice trump a dictate of a totalitarian political power grab.

not so sure. I feel like The FDA has some credibility left, and would like to see the results they publish with approval or non-approval.
I think what was once a near certainty for approval, has changed to less of a certainty over the past 2-3 weeks.

 

[imprimis]

Yes, it's coming. They are too invested in it to not approve it. Plus, these are bureaucrats who will crater to keep their jobs. Just look at the post in the megathread about Israel and all the Wuhan cases among those vaxxed and almost the entire country being vaxxed. Rather than saying enough is enough, Israel doubled down (to save face) with more punitive measures on those already vaxxed.

You'll likely not be able to fly anywhere without proof of vaxxed, Amazon will require uploading of proof before sending their trucks to deliver to your home, pay at the pump gas will not be available without proof and more. It will be done electronically---airlines will be threatened with pulling of their flying certs, the banking industry through the DOT will not allow using a CCard at pumps unless they are encoded showing proof of vax, same with being able to use bank ATM's or use CCards anywhere. Cell companies will block use of their phones without proof. No hotel will rent rooms to the unvaxxed. Draconian? Yes. Unimaginable? Absolutely not. People will comply in order to live. Then the government/s will be able to do anything they want when the next "wild hair" crossed their minds. We're already seeing it with the 50% electric cars by 2030. No vax or no electric car=no gas purchase. There will be an exemption on their new "per mile driven" tax if you are in an electric car...and have been vaxxed.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Yes, it's coming. They are too invested in it to not approve it. Plus, these are bureaucrats who will crater to keep their jobs. Just look at the post in the megathread about Israel and all the Wuhan cases among those vaxxed and almost the entire country being vaxxed. Rather than saying enough is enough, Israel doubled down (to save face) with more punitive measures on those already vaxxed.

You'll likely not be able to fly anywhere without proof of vaxxed, Amazon will require uploading of proof before sending their trucks to deliver to your home, pay at the pump gas will not be available without proof and more. It will be done electronically---airlines will be threatened with pulling of their flying certs, the banking industry through the DOT will not allow using a CCard at pumps unless they are encoded showing proof of vax, same with being able to use bank ATM's or use CCards anywhere. Cell companies will block use of their phones without proof. No hotel will rent rooms to the unvaxxed. Draconian? Yes. Unimaginable? Absolutely not. People will comply in order to live. Then the government/s will be able to do anything they want when the next "wild hair" crossed their minds. We're already seeing it with the 50% electric cars by 2030. No vax or no electric car=no gas purchase. There will be an exemption on their new "per mile driven" tax if you are in an electric car...and have been vaxxed.

Resist!
I for one don’t think the FDA is going to grant full approval to this vaccine and it may throw the country into major chaos.

 

[ShaolinNole]

Pretty simple. What was promised in the “vaccine” (gene therapy?) is not being delivered.

We all know the Covid vaccine is currently only available under Emergency Use Only authorization.

Will the FDA give full authorization to currently available vaccines this year?

They are trying to get as many people as possible to take it prior to granting approval and creating liability for these companies. Gonna be impossible for them to just say “oops” they don’t work very well and a lot of people are dying. The more likely scenario is that they say that the vaccines are not working because of the unvaxxed and then just require more and more jabs and a digital certificate.

 

[Cre8ive]

not so sure. I feel like The FDA has some credibility left, and would like to see the results they publish with approval or non-approval.
I think what was once a near certainty for approval, has changed to less of a certainty over the past 2-3 weeks.

I hope you are correct! Unfortunately my trust in "government" agencies is at zero. The current radical party now in control seems to have corrupted each and every division of the federal government from the FBI all the way down to the rank and file democrat senators and congressmen. Hijacked justice.

 

[ChicagoFats]

I hope you are correct! Unfortunately my trust in "government" agencies is at zero. The current radical party now in control seems to have corrupted each and every division of the federal government from the FBI all the way down to the rank and file democrat senators and congressmen. Hijacked justice.

there is a lot riding on the line about their decision. If they grant approval, it may pave the way for vaccine passports. If they don’t …. Well they have been forcing leople
To get a shot they won’t approve. All hell will break loose if that’s the case.

Whatever they decide they need to be transparent with how they came to the decision.

With the data coming out about breakthrough cases I think it’s going to get murky for them.

 

[Cre8ive]

there is a lot riding on the line about their decision. If they grant approval, it may pave the way for vaccine passports. If they don’t …. Well they have been forcing leople
To get a shot they won’t approve. All hell will break loose if that’s the case.

Whatever they decide they need to be transparent with how they came to the decision.

With the data coming out about breakthrough cases I think it’s going to get murky for them.

Where politicians are concerned and the groups and committees they create, SAVING FACE always takes president over logic, truth, integrity, or simply what one would call "doing the right thing."

 

[ChicagoFats]

Where politicians are concerned and the groups and committees they create, SAVING FACE always takes president over logic, truth, integrity, or simply what one would call "doing the right thing."

That’s why transparency is key.

IF they were smart they would release the decision along with a 1-2 page laymen’s explanation on the reasons for the decision.

But our elected officials are not very smart so I totally expect it to be a shit show.

Isn’t the decision supposed to be announced around Labor Day?

 

[Long Cat V2.0]

Yes to both of the options. It normally wouldn’t be approved but they have to push it through at this point.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Yes to both of the options. It normally wouldn’t be approved but they have to push it through at this point.

That’s what I originally thought too.

what do you think will happen, if anything, if full approval is denied? I understand you don’t think that would happen, just curious others thoughts on if it did.

 

[Long Cat V2.0]

That’s what I originally thought too.

what do you think will happen, if anything, if full approval is denied? I understand you don’t think that would happen, just curious others thoughts on if it did.

0% chance that happens for Pfizer. Maybe one or two of the other vaccines don’t get approved, then they will just say “The science just says this one provides the best/strongest/most durable/whatever protection.”

even if none were approved, they would just say the benefits stilled outweighed the risk for this once in a lifetime pandemic that was killing people everywhere. The media, Twitter, Facebook and google will do their thing and they will become the official facts.

 

[imprimis]

Resist!
I for one don’t think the FDA is going to grant full approval to this vaccine and it may throw the country into major chaos.

I can't see where the FDA is not politicized like the others.

there is a lot riding on the line about their decision. If they grant approval, it may pave the way for vaccine passports. If they don’t …. Well they have been forcing leople
To get a shot they won’t approve. All hell will break loose if that’s the case.

Whatever they decide they need to be transparent with how they came to the decision.

With the data coming out about breakthrough cases I think it’s going to get murky for them.

OBiden just went around a recent SCOTUS decision and basically said, "You can't do anything about it." They will do what those pulling the strings say to do.

Look at the United Airlines edict. Didn't it say once approved by the FDA or October 25? Tells me there is a set date already.

Don't overlook insurance companies being behind this too. "Your premiums will skyrocket if you don't demand 100% vaxxed." "We'll only pay health care charges (regardless of the malady) for the vaxxed."

 

[imprimis]

That’s why transparency is key.

IF they were smart they would release the decision along with a 1-2 page laymen’s explanation on the reasons for the decision.

But our elected officials are not very smart so I totally expect it to be a shit show.

Isn’t the decision supposed to be announced around Labor Day?

Transparency? Hell, they are ignoring subpoenas, FOIAs, and court rulings.

Any explanation given will be a crock of shit.

 

[Tell_Sackett]

There is zero chance the FDA denies approval of at least one "vaccine".... zero.

 

[ShaolinNole]

There is zero chance the FDA denies approval of at least one "vaccine".... zero.

That’ll be interesting. People that got the J&J (I’m guessing Pfizer will be approved) will be forced to mix and match when their required booster shots are due. Vaccine cocktails for everyone.

 

[120north]

Remember when the left was going to refuse the vax because Trump? Now it’s their sole reason for being. They claim moral superiority by being vaxed. It is so blatantly hypocritical.

 

[Jayhacker]

No need to approve it. The sheep just continue to get it.

 

[RollyInRaleigh]

FDA is just another 3 letter government organization that’s in the tank for the left...that’s all.

 

[America 1st]

Yes.

China virus has been great a dividing people and its “vaccine” is right on par.

 

[Shitbreak Mcgee]

I’d suspect that Novavax will be the one granted approval. Their study is looking solid and the way the Vaccine is made, is on par with the pertussis vaccine. This would be the only vaccine I get.

 

[Long Cat V2.0]

I’d suspect that Novavax will be the one granted approval. Their study is looking solid and the way the Vaccine is made, is on par with the pertussis vaccine. This would be the only vaccine I get.

Getting approval in the US is low on their priority list. They are going to countries with less vaccine access first.

 

[BTAvenger]

You need to add option C: Both.

 

[4n6tox]

I’d suspect that Novavax will be the one granted approval. Their study is looking solid and the way the Vaccine is made, is on par with the pertussis vaccine. This would be the only vaccine I get.

You might be waiting a little longer.

https://www.reuters.com/business/he...king-us-approval-covid-19-vaccine-2021-08-05/

 

[Shitbreak Mcgee]

Sounds good to me. I won’t be taking the other ones. Luckily I found a Pastor in Louisiana who wrote me a letter to bypass hospital rules I work at as a Medical Device rep.

 

[BurntJ]

Pretty simple. What was promised in the “vaccine” (gene therapy?) is not being delivered.

We all know the Covid vaccine is currently only available under Emergency Use Only authorization.

Will the FDA give full authorization to currently available vaccines this year?

Can we get an option for maybe....eventually. Technically they will have to get 5 years of study so Im not sure where your going here.

Personally.....I dont think it will ever happen as all the true info has been pouring out and will be taken into consideration. And since everyone now knows/understands it was a bioweapon......I wouldn't expect a recurrence of it down the road....though they ARE stupid enough to try.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Can we get an option for maybe....eventually. Technically they will have to get 5 years of study so Im not sure where your going here.

Personally.....I dont think it will ever happen as all the true info has been pouring out and will be taken into consideration. And since everyone now knows/understands it was a bioweapon......I wouldn't expect a recurrence of it down the road....though they ARE stupid enough to try.

They are trying to push full approval through by Labor Day I thought?

 

[4n6tox]

They are trying to push full approval through by Labor Day I thought?

They probably will but there are going to be a lot of pissed off bankrupt and now defunct companies who didn't get approval with a much better safety profile for all types of medications. FDA will have to rewrite their approval metric standards in the process.