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Scavino bringing the GIF game!
I went online and ordered some of MyPillow products to support him.
Wife and I just discussed moving a substantial amount of money out of Bank of America next week.
I was downstairs working, my wife listen to the whole thing and was showing me things later on especially with the interference from China and other countries, timestamps IPA numbers everything. My question is how in the hell are we going to get non-corrupt people in charge to act on this, would it be the executive order Trump sign with the military intelligence being involved with our elections being manipulated and stolen by foreign countries? When they control every bit of the media how the hell are we going to get this to the general public.
Missthegin
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Too bad that slush fund that Congress uses to pay off to hide their dirt can’t become public. Personally I think this would be a very strong point of leverage to force the McConnells of the world out.
Unreal. Soon they’ll control everything bc cable & streaming providers will refuse to carry anything counter to the Dem narrative. The transition to full, State-run media will be complete. It’s happening right under our noses.
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Ok boss man I'm home, have eaten, and I'm ready for a night of red pills! I'm prefacing everything by saying I'm not a lawyer nor do I hold a PHD in American history. All that being noted I'm a huge American history enthusiast and as you can see by my posting history I read quite a bit. I've really enjoyed our conversations and I think you're asking all the right questions.
Now to the chapter 61 & 62 stuff. What I linked is a different landing spot than the other two I posted because I searched using your key words and questions to make sure we are traveling the same path. I'd say what you pointed out about HBC is likely a part of an agreed upon treaty signed before or during the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution makes clear in article VI that:
"All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
So put plainly anything previously agreed upon under the Articles of Con or before will hold in contract as long as they don't run contrary to the supreme law of the land (of the United States).
Now its important to note that chapter 61 plainly states that HBC will only receive compensation after taxes are paid to the United States government. That would mean the United States government believes it has sovereignty over HBC's material possessions inside the United States. I also interpret that to mean that entitles holding their native origin to a different nation aren't always exempt from another nation's government. To further extrapolate on this we know that the United States government picks and chooses which international laws it chooses to abide by and which to disregard and when. They've done this numerous times throughout history as recently as during 45's admin with UN bullshit. Circling back a smidge we can assume that even if the United States government entered a contract to indebt themselves to foreign bankers that any of those contracts that run counter to the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (corporations that might have more of a claim to US materials or property as just one example) would be bunk. Even if those contracts weren't explicitly bunk or unclaimable the US government (in the vulnerable state it was in at that time and previously up until 1871) would likely have blown off its commitments and told Great Britain to pound sand.
I'd consider it highly unlikely that the US government (as they word it in the Constitution) would worry about honoring debts with it's chief foreign competitor and one that it had beaten twice previously in armed conflict. The chances of them telling G.B. or any other international bankers to "come and get it" would have been pretty high compared to honoring a debt they knew they could never repay in any form. Chapter 61 makes clear that they were sending substantial amount of gold both ways across the Atlantic which wouldn't make sense for either party unless the felt they had a mutually beneficial contract to uphold.
On to the District of Columbia now. A body corporate at that time meant a group than managed the property of the members of said group. The purpose of creating this new MUNICIPAL government in the District was to unify all property and public services in the District under one MUNICIPAL government. That municipal (I wont capitalize anymore because I think I made my point) government is no different than the municipal governments seen across many states today. The District needed development and public works and this government could control and contract those works and laws without Congress needing to waste their time. The beginning of chapter 62 states clearly that all the laws and contracts created by that municipal government must be consistent with the US Constitution further enforcing that the municipal government is subordinate to the US Constitution.
Chapter 62 also plainly states that the municipal government of DC can be brought to suit which would be impossible if it were a foreign corporation or owned / controlled by a foreign nation as referenced in the article you linked originally. The governor of DC (charged with executing the acts of said 'corporate municipality') is also appointed by the POTUS according to chapter 62 thus we can extrapolate that direct (governor / legislative body of DC) and indirect (POTUS / Congress / Constitution) sovereignty of the District are controlled by United States citizens, sworn to uphold the US Constitution, and not a foreign sovereign.
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That link is just to show that a body corporate can be what we think of today as a 'corporation' or a legal body. The legal bodies can have their own rights and laws the same way municipalities and states have their individual laws and rights while still being subordinate to another entity (the government of the United States in this case).
I don't think you're wrong in your suggestion that something 'seems' wrong. I'd say that is because we moved away from acting like a republic and started framing everything as 'democracy'. 'Democracy' is dangerous and I flatly reject the idea of spreading democracy across the globe. The United States Constitution was not designed to 'spread democracy' to other nation's citizens and people's of foreign lands. It was written and enacted to guarantee the God given rights of citizens of The United States. The 'shining city on the hill' and 'beacon of light' bullshit we always hear about stretches our society and culture further and further away from its intended function of preserving rights. I realize being the world's greatest nation and empire ever requires that we maintain international connections of a certain degree but that does not make us responsible for the world's citizens and MOST IMPORTANTLY it doesn't absolve us of our MANIFEST DESTINY on earth or IN 'SPACE'!
I hope my ramblings were clear enough to understand and I apologize to @Cincinattus91 & @Vikingtiger if I made it seem like I don't respect you all. I certainly do. As Evelyn Beatrice Hall said, "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend TO THE DEATH your RIGHT to say it".
I firmly believe that China and the cabal would love to see nothing more than an armed revolution in the United States that disrupts the world order by making the US government seem unsecure thus collapsing the dollar and its international recognition as the most secure currency and government in the world. The US dollar being the world's currency, even being fiat, is a major reason why China had to devalue their currency so as not to face economic collapse in the face of 45's tariffs and pressure. Any shift in the world order or the implication that the United States government were unstable would not only hinder investment in the US as the most secure government in the world but might also shift that investment and partnerships to China (or another cabal puppet state) where our ability to fight back against their evil would be impossible (and likely bring about the end of times by the rise of a one world government).
P.S. Secession is unconstitutional because states cannot remove the rights of citizens of the United States. To say the state of 1980 (for example because their fun to pick on these days) could remove or take away the rights and citizenship of US citizens via secession is impossible because of birthright citizenship and most importantly the fact that those rights are God given. Only individual citizens can renounce their citizenship and rights guaranteed under the Constitution (not a state for a group of citizens by force a la secession).
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Ok boss man I'm home, have eaten, and I'm ready for a night of red pills! I'm prefacing everything by saying I'm not a lawyer nor do I hold a PHD in American history. All that being noted I'm a huge American history enthusiast and as you can see by my posting history I read quite a bit. I've really enjoyed our conversations and I think you're asking all the right questions.
Now to the chapter 61 & 62 stuff. What I linked is a different landing spot than the other two I posted because I searched using your key words and questions to make sure we are traveling the same path. I'd say what you pointed out about HBC is likely a part of an agreed upon treaty signed before or during the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution makes clear in article VI that:
"All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
So put plainly anything previously agreed upon under the Articles of Con or before will hold in contract as long as they don't run contrary to the supreme law of the land (of the United States).
Now its important to note that chapter 61 plainly states that HBC will only receive compensation after taxes are paid to the United States government. That would mean the United States government believes it has sovereignty over HBC's material possessions inside the United States. I also interpret that to mean that entitles holding their native origin to a different nation aren't always exempt from another nation's government. To further extrapolate on this we know that the United States government picks and chooses which international laws it chooses to abide by and which to disregard and when. They've done this numerous times throughout history as recently as during 45's admin with UN bullshit. Circling back a smidge we can assume that even if the United States government entered a contract to indebt themselves to foreign bankers that any of those contracts that run counter to the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (corporations that might have more of a claim to US materials or property as just one example) would be bunk. Even if those contracts weren't explicitly bunk or unclaimable the US government (in the vulnerable state it was in at that time and previously up until 1871) would likely have blown off its commitments and told Great Britain to pound sand.
I'd consider it highly unlikely that the US government (as they word it in the Constitution) would worry about honoring debts with it's chief foreign competitor and one that it had beaten twice previously in armed conflict. The chances of them telling G.B. or any other international bankers to "come and get it" would have been pretty high compared to honoring a debt they knew they could never repay in any form. Chapter 61 makes clear that they were sending substantial amount of gold both ways across the Atlantic which wouldn't make sense for either party unless the felt they had a mutually beneficial contract to uphold.
On to the District of Columbia now. A body corporate at that time meant a group than managed the property of the members of said group. The purpose of creating this new MUNICIPAL government in the District was to unify all property and public services in the District under one MUNICIPAL government. That municipal (I wont capitalize anymore because I think I made my point) government is no different than the municipal governments seen across many states today. The District needed development and public works and this government could control and contract those works and laws without Congress needing to waste their time. The beginning of chapter 62 states clearly that all the laws and contracts created by that municipal government must be consistent with the US Constitution further enforcing that the municipal government is subordinate to the US Constitution.
Chapter 62 also plainly states that the municipal government of DC can be brought to suit which would be impossible if it were a foreign corporation or owned / controlled by a foreign nation as referenced in the article you linked originally. The governor of DC (charged with executing the acts of said 'corporate municipality') is also appointed by the POTUS according to chapter 62 thus we can extrapolate that direct (governor / legislative body of DC) and indirect (POTUS / Congress / Constitution) sovereignty of the District are controlled by United States citizens, sworn to uphold the US Constitution, and not a foreign sovereign.
body corporate
an organization such as a company or government that is considered to have its…
That link is just to show that a body corporate can be what we think of today as a 'corporation' or a legal body. The legal bodies can have their own rights and laws the same way municipalities and states have their individual laws and rights while still being subordinate to another entity (the government of the United States in this case).
I don't think you're wrong in your suggestion that something 'seems' wrong. I'd say that is because we moved away from acting like a republic and started framing everything as 'democracy'. 'Democracy' is dangerous and I flatly reject the idea of spreading democracy across the globe. The United States Constitution was not designed to 'spread democracy' to other nation's citizens and people's of foreign lands. It was written and enacted to guarantee the God given rights of citizens of The United States. The 'shining city on the hill' and 'beacon of light' bullshit we always hear about stretches our society and culture further and further away from its intended function of preserving rights. I realize being the world's greatest nation and empire ever requires that we maintain international connections of a certain degree but that does not make us responsible for the world's citizens and MOST IMPORTANTLY it doesn't absolve us of our MANIFEST DESTINY on earth or IN 'SPACE'!
I hope my ramblings were clear enough to understand and I apologize to @Cincinattus91 & @Vikingtiger if I made it seem like I don't respect you all. I certainly do. As Evelyn Beatrice Hall said, "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend TO THE DEATH your RIGHT to say it".
I firmly believe that China and the cabal would love to see nothing more than an armed revolution in the United States that disrupts the world order by making the US government seem unsecure thus collapsing the dollar and its international recognition as the most secure currency and government in the world. The US dollar being the world's currency, even being fiat, is a major reason why China had to devalue their currency so as not to face economic collapse in the face of 45's tariffs and pressure. Any shift in the world order or the implication that the United States government were unstable would not only hinder investment in the US as the most secure government in the world but might also shift that investment and partnerships to China (or another cabal puppet state) where our ability to fight back against their evil would be impossible (and likely bring about the end of times by the rise of a one world government).
P.S. Secession is unconstitutional because states cannot remove the rights of citizens of the United States. To say the state of 1980 (for example because their fun to pick on these days) could remove or take away the rights and citizenship of US citizens via secession is impossible because of birthright citizenship and most importantly the fact that those rights are God given. Only individual citizens can renounce their citizenship and rights guaranteed under the Constitution (not a state for a group of citizens by force a la secession).
To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World—
Fellow Citizens & compatriots—
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna — I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man — The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken — I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls — I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch — The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country —
Victory or Death.
William Barrett Travis.
Lt. Col. comdt.
P. S. The Lord is on our side — When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn — We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels and got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves.
Fellow Citizens & compatriots—
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna — I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man — The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken — I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls — I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch — The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country —
Victory or Death.
William Barrett Travis.
Lt. Col. comdt.
P. S. The Lord is on our side — When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn — We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels and got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves.
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inFredible
Elite
Lou was the only show I was still watching on Fox other than Maria, its amazing they really are controlled opposition. It really is all a dog and pony show and a bunch of distractions put on by the elites and those in control. F Fox and that loser Paul Ryan. 80 Million people are the target of a psych op designed to make them think they are outliers and they better conform or face the consequences. WTF happened to tolerance, respect for different opinions and honest debate, just about ready to GTFO of here if things don't change soon.
I guess the depends if we get droned b4 that or not
Maybe I’m showing my ignorance, but do ex-presidents receive intelligence briefings when they’re out of office? Or is the suggestion that he’s still receiving them when he’s not supposed to (I hope it’s this one).
Push for Canada's system here in every state (not nationalized system cuz fuck big government). Zero computers and the counting never stops until its all counted.
Anybody who served in a previous admin retains their security clearance to advise the new admins.
There was a big stink about Brennan and co retaining theirs during the 45th admin.
Honestly, I didn't know it until the Brennan stuff but it seems really weird especially considering how many people get paid to advise our elected officials and the executive branch anyways.
To play devil's advocate imagine a situation like what JFK did when he called Eisenhower about Cuba and dropping the bombs 1st. I'd have to imagine situations like that were the reason such a system exists at all
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Man, that was some good stuff. Have company at the moment, but we will definitely continue this conversation. You’re doing exactly what it’s gonna take to win our country back. Keep it up. mind control is the #1 reason I believe we’re in this mess. I’ll hone in on the main topics on how I believe we got here and the best way out In a bit. Appreciate the in depth convo.@Jcoker01
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Ok boss man I'm home, have eaten, and I'm ready for a night of red pills! I'm prefacing everything by saying I'm not a lawyer nor do I hold a PHD in American history. All that being noted I'm a huge American history enthusiast and as you can see by my posting history I read quite a bit. I've really enjoyed our conversations and I think you're asking all the right questions.
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We are, too. I’ve been with BofA since 1986. Good riddance. Moving to Frost Bank.
I know everyone has the right to appeal but once they lose we should take them out back and wrap up business quickly.
Also in for a Tshirt and 4 stickers. Like that idea of posting those in places! Another poster had talked about a similar idea and I think it rocks!
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Sometimes you have to show them.
Thanks man.
This is only the very beginning of something much bigger.
Everyone on here that has donated, posted or contributed in any way has started a grassroots movement by the people, for the people, in an effort to find Truth.
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I’m a little behind today but wanted to mention - this Time story has classic “get in front of the news cycle and gaslight it as legitimate strategy instead of cheating” written all over it.
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