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Hey @America 1st can you explain exactly how they discern between vaccinated and unvaccinated at the hospital? If I was vaccinated, would I just have to say that or do I need to provide my card? If I had only one of two shots am I unvaccinated? If I had my shots more than 6 months ago? If I don't have a booster? What if I come in in such bad shape that I can't talk, and don't have family, or my family can't find my card? Does the healthcare system as its currently run seem like it would track the numbers honestly, skew them to make the unvaccinated look good, or skew them to make the vaccinated look good? Have they skewed the numbers before? For example, is a death in the hospital by someone who tests positive for Covid but was there for another reason entirely and never had a single symptom still counted as a Covid death?

I'll happily acknowledge that the shots indeed may help prevent serious disease or death. And I'll admit its possible that the vaccines aren't quite as dangerous as some people make them out to be. The fact is I don't know, but the reason I don't know is because the people who are supposed to be in charge continue to give false data, to highlight information that supports their case, to hide information that doesn't, and most importantly to not seriously track data that we need like vaccine adverse effects, like breakthrough cases, and like how people in the original vaccine tests fared long term. Until they start to show a level of seriousness by doing so, and show their work in doing so, I'll be damned before I trust a single word out of their mouths or a single number out of their data.

Since you don't seem to understand that, I feel I must call you what I believe you to be which is controlled opposition paid to be here. And for that reason I won't be responding to you again after this message until I see a change.

Good day.
 
CurtOFD78 said:
I have looked at getting a short wave radio for some time now just in case SHTF and we need to get information. Is a HAM radio better? I admittedly am a novice on this topic, so any information would be helpful.
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i bought a few hand held transceivers a few years ago for time of crisis exactly what your describing but ive learned they only have 1-3 miles radius

ham radios are exponentially better for long distance communication because one can access repeater towers and make contact with someone on the other side of the world

i recently got my ham license and im gonna join a local radio club to become more familiar with it

if you want to study for the exam hamstudy.org is all youll need

your gonna take the technician exam first
 
America 1st said:
It’s reasonable to believe that the older someone is the more biased they’ve become by life experience (for plenty of people).

Also my position on the vaccines has to do with my personal experience, common cents, and general facts. Trump doesn’t have anything to do with it other than them being a HUGE win under his administration that he can’t celebrate because 1/4 of his base refuses to admit they were wrong (he has plenty of accomplishments but the deep state got a winner on this issue).

Just look at the US military numbers for confirmation that these things aren’t killing or hurting people in any statistically significant way. If it were there would be wall to wall coverage, endless lawsuits, and Ron Johnson on the pulpit. The same thing will still be true 5 years from now, 10 years from now, and so on.

Most posters will never admit they missed on this one. After the rhetoric about war crimes and nazi experiments how could they? Nevertheless, the fixation and hot takes about the jabs will go down as the biggest miss in the history of the iterations of these threads and by a HUGE margin.

In the end the important thing to remember is patriots are in control and nothing can stop what is coming! NOTHING! 🇺🇸🐸
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Bro- I have some beachfront property in Kansas if you think the media would jump on adverse effects of this jab with the troops or anyone for that matter. Not sure where you have been.
 
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Mahozzle said:
Where is the chart that shows everyone who has had this thing pass through there body asymptotically that didn’t test positive or qualify for a case…

Also, does your data show if they discounted people who had been vaxxed more than 6th months prior to infection… we’ve seen this in several studies.

Had a cancer surgeon send me the JR podcast with dr McCullough last night. He’s sending that to every doctor he knows saying the medical community on the local levels are starting to figure out that they need to start thinking about what they are being told and not just following blindly what the FDA and CDC say.
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Can you provide me a link to that podcast? Thanks.
 
BurntJ said:
No matter what anyone believes (Q or not)…..game theory would dictate Trump could not redpill the nation. That was there underlying point of Russia Russia Russia, to play up the traitor side (so when their exposed we are normalized to it) Seems pretty clear now if you just look at all the failings. People questioned me before when I said this is the controlled destruction of the old guard….there is negative exposure in everything they are doing. We scream about this 9-15% inflation BUT go look at other countries and see how quick it exploded.
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I try to remain hopeful. Thank you
 
America 1st said:
It’s reasonable to believe that the older someone is the more biased they’ve become by life experience (for plenty of people).

Also my position on the vaccines has to do with my personal experience, common cents, and general facts. Trump doesn’t have anything to do with it other than them being a HUGE win under his administration that he can’t celebrate because 1/4 of his base refuses to admit they were wrong (he has plenty of accomplishments but the deep state got a winner on this issue).

Just look at the US military numbers for confirmation that these things aren’t killing or hurting people in any statistically significant way. If it were there would be wall to wall coverage, endless lawsuits, and Ron Johnson on the pulpit. The same thing will still be true 5 years from now, 10 years from now, and so on.

Most posters will never admit they missed on this one. After the rhetoric about war crimes and nazi experiments how could they? Nevertheless, the fixation and hot takes about the jabs will go down as the biggest miss in the history of the iterations of these threads and by a HUGE margin.

In the end the important thing to remember is patriots are in control and nothing can stop what is coming! NOTHING! 🇺🇸🐸
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You have no idea what the long term affects of this vaccine will be...and neither does anyone else...the lack of long term tests and evaluation is evident and the unwillingness of the pharmaceutical companies to release the pertinent data is absolutely heinous...50 years...75 years...WTF is up with that. You’re lost...
 
CurtOFD78 said:
I have looked at getting a short wave radio for some time now just in case SHTF and we need to get information. Is a HAM radio better? I admittedly am a novice on this topic, so any information would be helpful.
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HF is always better. If SHTF were to really happen (even nuclear) the only propagation that will survive within the ionosphere is HF.

Our own military walked away from HF because we’re idiots while the rest of the globe hung onto it. Now we’re scrambling to secure wide band HF frequent assignments because our narrow band satcoms are saturated.

Think back to movie “We were Soldiers” and the ham operator that was pulling signals from Vietnam
 


Open letter from The BMJ to Mark Zuckerberg​


Dear Mark Zuckerberg,
We are Fiona Godlee and Kamran Abbasi, editors of The BMJ, one of the world’s oldest and most influential general medical journals. We are writing to raise serious concerns about the “fact checking” being undertaken by third party providers on behalf of Facebook/Meta.

In September, a former employee of Ventavia, a contract research company helping carry out the main Pfizer covid-19 vaccine trial, began providing The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails. These materials revealed a host of poor clinical trial research practices occurring at Ventavia that could impact data integrity and patient safety. We also discovered that, despite receiving a direct complaint about these problems over a year ago, the FDA did not inspect Ventavia’s trial sites.

The BMJ commissioned an investigative reporter to write up the story for our journal. The article was published on 2 November, following legal review, external peer review and subject to The BMJ’s usual high level editorial oversight and review.[1]
But from November 10, readers began reporting a variety of problems when trying to share our article. Some reported being unable to share it. Many others reported having their posts flagged with a warning about “Missing context ... Independent fact-checkers say this information could mislead people.” Those trying to post the article were informed by Facebook that people who repeatedly share “false information” might have their posts moved lower in Facebook’s News Feed. Group administrators where the article was shared received messages from Facebook informing them that such posts were “partly false.”

Readers were directed to a “fact check” performed by a Facebook contractor named Lead Stories.[2]

We find the “fact check” performed by Lead Stories to be inaccurate, incompetent and irresponsible.
-- It fails to provide any assertions of fact that The BMJ article got wrong
-- It has a nonsensical title: “Fact Check: The British Medical Journal Did NOT Reveal Disqualifying And Ignored Reports Of Flaws In Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Trials”
-- The first paragraph inaccurately labels The BMJ a “news blog”
-- It contains a screenshot of our article with a stamp over it stating “Flaws Reviewed,” despite the Lead Stories article not identifying anything false or untrue in The BMJ article
-- It published the story on its website under a URL that contains the phrase “hoax-alert”

We have contacted Lead Stories, but they refuse to change anything about their article or actions that have led to Facebook flagging our article.

We have also contacted Facebook directly, requesting immediate removal of the “fact checking” label and any link to the Lead Stories article, thereby allowing our readers to freely share the article on your platform.

There is also a wider concern that we wish to raise. We are aware that The BMJ is not the only high quality information provider to have been affected by the incompetence of Meta’s fact checking regime. To give one other example, we would highlight the treatment by Instagram (also owned by Meta) of Cochrane, the international provider of high quality systematic reviews of the medical evidence.[3] Rather than investing a proportion of Meta’s substantial profits to help ensure the accuracy of medical information shared through social media, you have apparently delegated responsibility to people incompetent in carrying out this crucial task. Fact checking has been a staple of good journalism for decades. What has happened in this instance should be of concern to anyone who values and relies on sources such as The BMJ.

We hope you will act swiftly: specifically to correct the error relating to The BMJ’s article and to review the processes that led to the error; and generally to reconsider your investment in and approach to fact checking overall.

Best wishes,
Fiona Godlee, editor in chief
Kamran Abbasi, incoming editor in chief
The BMJ
 
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America 1st said:
Your first two paragraphs essentially prove what I was saying to @MH. Whether people have had it previously or not the vaccinated are experiencing less severe disease than those who haven’t been. The non vaccinated category is gonna have people with multiple infections in it as well and they’re just not performing as well as the vaccinated.

Your last paragraph can be explained pretty easily as well too; doctors are human too. They’re wrong plenty often and enjoy speculation as much as the rest of us.
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Show me where I would show up on this chart… had Covid… never took a test and kicked it in 3 days with nothing more than a slight headache, sore back and a complete loss of taste and smell?!
 
Jayhox said:
Do you honestly believe the vax harm numbers aren’t being suppressed? Do you actually believe that 800,000 died from/because of Covid? Because the same people control those numbers and what is reported.
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No the same people don’t control those numbers. This is why I reference DoD and Sweden all the time (no CDC discussion).

Do I believe 800,000 people popped a positive Chyna virus test near or after death; sure. We all know that it wasn’t being measured as dying FROM COVID but instead WITH COVID (especially given the cycle threshold they had at the time and all the other nonsense).

That being said the CDC has no reach in Sweden. You go look at their reporting on the side effects or adverse events and it tracks with DoD and other entities that aren’t affiliated with the CDC. The Israeli data is another great example.

If anything I think the vaccines are getting scapegoated for things that aren’t remotely tied to the jabs at all. Every time someone has an ailment after getting jabbed the overzealous antivaxx crowd want to attribute it to the jabs.

We have it happen all the time ITT, and others, where people talk about how their 90ish (people get sick, especially old people) year old dad or whatever got sick and had been jabbed so “it had to be that poison” or how their parent can “only have one drink a night now” after the jab (instead of asking if multiple drinks a night might have had something to do with the ailment).

That’s not to say I don’t think these jabs can cause side effects because they can (all drugs do whether it’s Tylenol, Viagra, chemo cocktails, Ivermectin, HCQ, ect) but they’re certainly not the boogeyman some people make them out to be.

Other great control groups include the NBA and NFL where those people are all fine especially considering they’re in a group of athletes known for having heart problems, blood clots, and so forth.
 
Jayhox said:
Do you honestly believe the vax harm numbers aren’t being suppressed? Do you actually believe that 800,000 died from/because of Covid? Because the same people control those numbers and what is reported
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Curious to see how they are treating the unvaccinated (sending them home) vs. the vaccinated as well. The fact is, any chart full of statistics has a multitude of underlying assumptions or bias data at the basis of its summations.

What does "severe" mean?

And that can probably be said of things from both side of the aisle. There is my disclaimer
 
brenn_man20 said:
Hey @America 1st can you explain exactly how they discern between vaccinated and unvaccinated at the hospital? If I was vaccinated, would I just have to say that or do I need to provide my card? If I had only one of two shots am I unvaccinated? If I had my shots more than 6 months ago? If I don't have a booster? What if I come in in such bad shape that I can't talk, and don't have family, or my family can't find my card? Does the healthcare system as its currently run seem like it would track the numbers honestly, skew them to make the unvaccinated look good, or skew them to make the vaccinated look good? Have they skewed the numbers before? For example, is a death in the hospital by someone who tests positive for Covid but was there for another reason entirely and never had a single symptom still counted as a Covid death?

I'll happily acknowledge that the shots indeed may help prevent serious disease or death. And I'll admit its possible that the vaccines aren't quite as dangerous as some people make them out to be. The fact is I don't know, but the reason I don't know is because the people who are supposed to be in charge continue to give false data, to highlight information that supports their case, to hide information that doesn't, and most importantly to not seriously track data that we need like vaccine adverse effects, like breakthrough cases, and like how people in the original vaccine tests fared long term. Until they start to show a level of seriousness by doing so, and show their work in doing so, I'll be damned before I trust a single word out of their mouths or a single number out of their data.

Since you don't seem to understand that, I feel I must call you what I believe you to be which is controlled opposition paid to be here. And for that reason I won't be responding to you again after this message until I see a change.

Good day.
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If you’re vaccinated it’s documented through your insurance and recorded to the appropriate state system through whoever administers the vaccine.

You can watch them do it if you’re with someone when they get vaccinated (like I have).
 
America 1st said:
No the same people don’t control those numbers. This is why I reference DoD and Sweden all the time (no CDC discussion).

Do I believe 800,000 people popped a positive Chyna virus test near or after death; sure. We all know that it wasn’t being measured as dying FROM COVID but instead WITH COVID (especially given the cycle threshold they had at the time and all the other nonsense).

That being said the CDC has no reach in Sweden. You go look at their reporting on the side effects or adverse events and it tracks with DoD and other entities that aren’t affiliated with the CDC. The Israeli data is another great example.

If anything I think the vaccines are getting scapegoated for things that aren’t remotely tied to the jabs at all. Every time someone has an ailment after getting jabbed the overzealous antivaxx crowd want to attribute it to the jabs.

We have it happen all the time ITT, and others, where people talk about how their 90ish (people get sick, especially old people) year old dad or whatever got sick and had been jabbed so “it had to be that poison” or how their parent can “only have one drink a night now” after the jab (instead of asking if multiple drinks a night might have had something to do with the ailment).

That’s not to say I don’t think these jabs can cause side effects because they can (all drugs do whether it’s Tylenol, Viagra, chemo cocktails, Ivermectin, HCQ, ect) but they’re certainly not the boogeyman some people make them out to be.

Other great control groups include the NBA and NFL where those people are all fine especially considering they’re in a group of athletes known for having heart problems, blood clots, and so forth.
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Would you think this is akin to someone dying in a car accident and cause of death was listed as Covid?
 

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