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Pineapple said:
So, you support China. Congrats?

“After years of planning, China now dominates the world’s production of new generation batteries that are key to transitioning away from fossil fuels. These new batteries are essential for electric vehicles and most portable consumer electronics such as cell phones and laptops.

By 2040, energy analysts estimate over half of all passenger vehicles sold worldwide could be electric, according to 2019 report by Bloomberg New Energy Finance. They expect a similar percentage of light commercial vehicles in the U.S., Europe and China sales will be electric within that time, BNEF predicts.

If current trends continue, most of them will likely use Chinese batteries, a key element for transitioning away from fossil fuels, and most of those batteries will be lithium ion, which are also popular for cellphones and laptops because of their high energy per unit mass relative to other electrical energy storage systems, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.”

Battery Supply Chain
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China is beyond awful. But islam is a cancer. I'll take the slightly lesser of 2 evils.
 
Pineapple said:
Interesting. How much is it to charge?

And, what are your thoughts on the grid not supporting them during peak usage - middle of summer Texas/Winter in Texas?

I suspect the electric car will remain a niche market. They couldn’t survive in the off-road market because they couldn’t hold up. Curious to see how it progresses as China continues to garner more control in the market.
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Read my previous post and skip down the part below the image.

Re: the grid not supporting them during peak - I haven't heard anything like that, and definitely haven't experienced anything like that. I'm in Central SC, so the middle of summer here is just as rough as anywhere else. Hasn't happened here.

There are a number of vehicles set to break into the market in the next year or 2 that are off-road vehicles. I think they're going to do fine. But we'll see.
 
Edgehollow said:
I'm not pro or con on EV's, but to act like by plugging up you're "not contributing to terrorism" is asinine. Afghanistan is sitting on one of the largest Rare Earth Mineral deposits in the world, and now that the US is out of the way, China gonna step right in and help themselves. Payments will go to the Taliban, money will be used to attack the western world.

I'm with TGSIO, I want to get in the car and get there. Fueling up 'ol girl (my nickname for the F150) takes 5 minutes and I get around 600 miles per tank. Granted, I'm usually at the gas station longer (bathroom, snacks, etc), but if I'm rushed I can be in and out in less than 10.
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China owns Afghanistan, and our president - which is why they own Afghanistan.
 
Pillow Pants said:
Lithium from China (unfortunately). The Gigafactory doesn't use fossil fuels, though the construction of it could. Even still, that's far less than any other car on the market. And that's my point. No gas. No oil.

Again, the "green" thing doesn't matter to me until people really get on board with nuclear.

I fully agree that NO ONE should be told what they have to buy, have to do with their body, etc. For Jim Biden to tell people that they have to buy electric cars is absurd. That's creating a race for the other manufacturers to catch up and they won't fully be ready - not with manufacturing, not with disposal, not with much of anything. And that will counteract any good that could have possibly done for the environment. It will be a net negative. But really, everything the liberals do anymore is a net negative, so that's no surprise.
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Cali and Canada have tons of lithium but they'll never let us mine it. We'd actually do it 10x cleaner than the chicoms but libs gonna hypocrite.
 
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Pillow Pants said:
They're parking spots. They look like this:
tesla-supercharging-station-from-left-model-s-model-3-model-x-and-model-y.jpg

They're usually close to an interstate and they're usually in a commercial center. It might be a grocery store parking lot, or a mall, or a hotel, or a shopping plaza. They try to put them near multiple options for things to do while it charges.

Here's a map:
Supercharger-Locations-Hero-Desktop-NA


It's hard to see where all of those are. You have to go to tesla.com/findus to see the locations and what type they are. There are 2 that are pretty close to me. But that's irrelevant. I'll never use those. Look for how many are 100-200 miles away from you.
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None in Costa Rica - Out
 

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