They are repealing a Biden EO mandate, not a law not sure how this works.
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Yes. I haven't been anywhere that I couldn't get to a charging station fairly quickly.
How long do you have to sit there and charge? I’d rather just fill up the tank and keep on keepin on.
The RNCC called me today. Normally I don't answer calls like this. I did. She started talking with the normal spiel and I asked if she was real or Memorex. She said she was real but used a pre-recorded message. Anyway, I unloaded about Dan Crenshaw being a turncoat and that she should send people over to the Senate and slap McConnell around for doing nothing. I said I was speaking for millions of others who are pissed about the GOP impotence. She said she hears that on almost every call.
I drove from Dayton to Baltimore Friday (and back on Sunday). Took my husband’s Yukon. If I’m not on the gas, it cuts down to v4 (fun fact, when I’m driving, that doesn’t happen as often. My husband gets better mileage than I do. But I get you where you want to go quick like
)From my door to the hotel, it was one tank with exactly 6 miles to spare. 7 hours and 19 minutes.
Will a battery last that long without stopping to charge? How long does it take to charge?
(I did stop to fill up about 45 minutes out because I didn’t want to have to get up 15 minutes early Saturday to go fill up)
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That's my style.I drove from Dayton to Baltimore Friday (and back on Sunday). Took my husband’s Yukon. If I’m not on the gas, it cuts down to v4 (fun fact, when I’m driving, that doesn’t happen as often. My husband gets better mileage than I do. But I get you where you want to go quick like
From my door to the hotel, it was one tank with exactly 6 miles to spare. 7 hours and 19 minutes.
Will a battery last that long without stopping to charge? How long does it take to charge?
(I did stop to fill up about 45 minutes out because I didn’t want to have to get up 15 minutes early Saturday to go fill up)
Yea they do
Well, there isn't any easy answer. Teslas really are the best, so I'll restrict the answer to just Teslas. Other electric cars will have a different experience.
Let me start by giving you a short answer: I can charge in about 15-20 minutes at a Supercharger. Sometimes less, sometimes more, but that's going to be the case 80%+ of the time.
Tesla has their own charging network, and the "stations" are called Superchargers. There are a ton of them nationally, and Tesla is constantly adding new ones. Tesla cars know where they are located. If I were to get in my car (I'm in central SC) and tell it I want to go to Miami, it will let me know at which Superchargers I'm going to have to charge on the way there. Your car will know its range and will calculate that.
Superchargers are almost always located where they are surrounded by restaurants, shopping, etc. So you can do that while it charges, or you can just sit in the car and watch Netflix or Hulu or something on the screen. I have never had an issue burning the time without it being a bother.
Tesla has 4 models: The S and 3 are cars, the X and Y are SUVs. The 3 is the smallest and therefore the lowest range. There are actually 2 other models - the Roadster and the Cybertruck - but it's going to be very rare for you to see either one, at least for a while longer.
Regardless of manufacturer, most cars come in different versions of the same model. Tesla is no different. The main thing you are choosing with the version is the range. Standard, Standard Plus, and Long Range are typical. There is also a Performance option that makes the car faster, and it does impact range. This will obviously impact how far you can drive on a single charge and will also impact how long it takes you to charge.
This changes slightly over time as the constant (about every week or 2) software updates can improve this, but this is fairly accurate for 9 of the versions:
Like any battery, it isn't recommended to charge to 100% very often. Tesla will default to 90% "full" unless you put it in "trip mode" and then it will charge to 100%. Going from 90% to 100% at a charging station might take you as long as it did to go from 5% to 90%. Because of this, you would only charge to 100% if you absolutely need to utilize the full range of the vehicle.
If you're taking a situation like @tgsio's post, then a Tesla might be a bit annoying. Although, I usually can't make a long trip without stopping every few hours anyway. So, it might not matter. I rarely ever drive anywhere that is more than a 4 hour trip - and those 4 hour trips happen once, maybe twice a year for me. I'm almost always driving within 2 hours of home.
For me, I charge at my house. It was $300 to install a charging outlet in my garage. I really don't know how long it takes to charge at home since I do it overnight, but I'll guess and say 5-6 hours. I only have Teslas, and it has added about $100/month to my power bill. I'm guessing that's far less than most of you spend each month on gas. If I charge at a Supercharger, it is usually about $12-$15 for a full charge.
I just checked. In the last 12 months I charged at a Supercharger 7 times. Every other time was at my house.
I'm happy to answer any questions any of you have, but I'll leave it with this for now. They're American made, the owner is a badass (who just said that the entire infrastructure bill should be "deleted" and all subsidies should be eliminated), and they don't contribute to the Middle East in any way. I have also never met a single Tesla owner who doesn't love their car (and I've met hundreds). Probably most importantly, they're insanely fun to drive.
**** - Edit - The brakes are "regenerative" so braking puts power back in the battery. You get the least amount of range driving a straight shot on an interstate. You'll get more range doing any kind of driving that requires some braking.
Superchargers are almost always located where they are surrounded by restaurants, shopping, etc. So you can do that while it charges, or you can just sit in the car and watch Netflix or Hulu or something on the screen. I have never had an issue burning the time without it being a bother.
Tesla has 4 models: The S and 3 are cars, the X and Y are SUVs. The 3 is the smallest and therefore the lowest range. There are actually 2 other models - the Roadster and the Cybertruck - but it's going to be very rare for you to see either one, at least for a while longer.
Regardless of manufacturer, most cars come in different versions of the same model. Tesla is no different. The main thing you are choosing with the version is the range. Standard, Standard Plus, and Long Range are typical. There is also a Performance option that makes the car faster, and it does impact range. This will obviously impact how far you can drive on a single charge and will also impact how long it takes you to charge.
This changes slightly over time as the constant (about every week or 2) software updates can improve this, but this is fairly accurate for 9 of the versions:
Like any battery, it isn't recommended to charge to 100% very often. Tesla will default to 90% "full" unless you put it in "trip mode" and then it will charge to 100%. Going from 90% to 100% at a charging station might take you as long as it did to go from 5% to 90%. Because of this, you would only charge to 100% if you absolutely need to utilize the full range of the vehicle.
If you're taking a situation like @tgsio's post, then a Tesla might be a bit annoying. Although, I usually can't make a long trip without stopping every few hours anyway. So, it might not matter. I rarely ever drive anywhere that is more than a 4 hour trip - and those 4 hour trips happen once, maybe twice a year for me. I'm almost always driving within 2 hours of home.
For me, I charge at my house. It was $300 to install a charging outlet in my garage. I really don't know how long it takes to charge at home since I do it overnight, but I'll guess and say 5-6 hours. I only have Teslas, and it has added about $100/month to my power bill. I'm guessing that's far less than most of you spend each month on gas. If I charge at a Supercharger, it is usually about $12-$15 for a full charge.
I just checked. In the last 12 months I charged at a Supercharger 7 times. Every other time was at my house.
I'm happy to answer any questions any of you have, but I'll leave it with this for now. They're American made, the owner is a badass (who just said that the entire infrastructure bill should be "deleted" and all subsidies should be eliminated), and they don't contribute to the Middle East in any way. I have also never met a single Tesla owner who doesn't love their car (and I've met hundreds). Probably most importantly, they're insanely fun to drive.
**** - Edit - The brakes are "regenerative" so braking puts power back in the battery. You get the least amount of range driving a straight shot on an interstate. You'll get more range doing any kind of driving that requires some braking.
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I agree with most of what you said but do you know those charging stations are currently subsidized and charged by fossil fuels and biogas(also subsidized)?Well, there isn't any easy answer. Teslas really are the best, so I'll restrict the answer to just Teslas. Other electric cars will have a different experience.
Let me start by giving you a short answer: I can charge in about 15-20 minutes at a Supercharger. Sometimes less, sometimes more, but that's going to be the case 80%+ of the time.
Tesla has their own charging network, and the "stations" are called Superchargers. There are a ton of them nationally, and Tesla is constantly adding new ones. Tesla cars know where they are located. If I were to get in my car (I'm in central SC) and tell it I want to go to Miami, it will let me know at which Superchargers I'm going to have to charge on the way there. Your car will know its range and will calculate that.
Superchargers are almost always located where they are surrounded by restaurants, shopping, etc. So you can do that while it charges, or you can just sit in the car and watch Netflix or Hulu or something on the screen. I have never had an issue burning the time without it being a bother.
Tesla has 4 models: The S and 3 are cars, the X and Y are SUVs. The 3 is the smallest and therefore the lowest range. There are actually 2 other models - the Roadster and the Cybertruck - but it's going to be very rare for you to see either one, at least for a while longer.
Regardless of manufacturer, most cars come in different versions of the same model. Tesla is no different. The main thing you are choosing with the version is the range. Standard, Standard Plus, and Long Range are typical. There is also a Performance option that makes the car faster, and it does impact range. This will obviously impact how far you can drive on a single charge and will also impact how long it takes you to charge.
This changes slightly over time as the constant (about every week or 2) software updates can improve this, but this is fairly accurate for 9 of the versions:
Like any battery, it isn't recommended to charge to 100% very often. Tesla will default to 90% "full" unless you put it in "trip mode" and then it will charge to 100%. Going from 90% to 100% at a charging station might take you as long as it did to go from 5% to 90%. Because of this, you would only charge to 100% if you absolutely need to utilize the full range of the vehicle.
If you're taking a situation like @tgsio's post, then a Tesla might be a bit annoying. Although, I usually can't make a long trip without stopping every few hours anyway. So, it might not matter. I rarely ever drive anywhere that is more than a 4 hour trip - and those 4 hour trips happen once, maybe twice a year for me. I'm almost always driving within 2 hours of home.
For me, I charge at my house. It was $300 to install a charging outlet in my garage. I really don't know how long it takes to charge at home since I do it overnight, but I'll guess and say 5-6 hours. I only have Teslas, and it has added about $100/month to my power bill. I'm guessing that's far less than most of you spend each month on gas. If I charge at a Supercharger, it is usually about $12-$15 for a full charge.
I just checked. In the last 12 months I charged at a Supercharger 7 times. Every other time was at my house.
I'm happy to answer any questions any of you have, but I'll leave it with this for now. They're American made, the owner is a badass (who just said that the entire infrastructure bill should be "deleted" and all subsidies should be eliminated), and they don't contribute to the Middle East in any way. I have also never met a single Tesla owner who doesn't love their car (and I've met hundreds). Probably most importantly, they're insanely fun to drive.
**** - Edit - The brakes are "regenerative" so braking puts power back in the battery. You get the least amount of range driving a straight shot on an interstate. You'll get more range doing any kind of driving that requires some braking.
I’m not begrudging you or anybody who loves your car. My friend just got one and loves it. (I’m still a little tickled at thinking about her plugging in her car that first night and her kid like joy checking her phone for a charging updateWell, there isn't any easy answer. Teslas really are the best, so I'll restrict the answer to just Teslas. Other electric cars will have a different experience.
Let me start by giving you a short answer: I can charge in about 15-20 minutes at a Supercharger. Sometimes less, sometimes more, but that's going to be the case 80%+ of the time.
Tesla has their own charging network, and the "stations" are called Superchargers. There are a ton of them nationally, and Tesla is constantly adding new ones. Tesla cars know where they are located. If I were to get in my car (I'm in central SC) and tell it I want to go to Miami, it will let me know at which Superchargers I'm going to have to charge on the way there. Your car will know its range and will calculate that.
Superchargers are almost always located where they are surrounded by restaurants, shopping, etc. So you can do that while it charges, or you can just sit in the car and watch Netflix or Hulu or something on the screen. I have never had an issue burning the time without it being a bother.
Tesla has 4 models: The S and 3 are cars, the X and Y are SUVs. The 3 is the smallest and therefore the lowest range. There are actually 2 other models - the Roadster and the Cybertruck - but it's going to be very rare for you to see either one, at least for a while longer.
Regardless of manufacturer, most cars come in different versions of the same model. Tesla is no different. The main thing you are choosing with the version is the range. Standard, Standard Plus, and Long Range are typical. There is also a Performance option that makes the car faster, and it does impact range. This will obviously impact how far you can drive on a single charge and will also impact how long it takes you to charge.
This changes slightly over time as the constant (about every week or 2) software updates can improve this, but this is fairly accurate for 9 of the versions:
Like any battery, it isn't recommended to charge to 100% very often. Tesla will default to 90% "full" unless you put it in "trip mode" and then it will charge to 100%. Going from 90% to 100% at a charging station might take you as long as it did to go from 5% to 90%. Because of this, you would only charge to 100% if you absolutely need to utilize the full range of the vehicle.
If you're taking a situation like @tgsio's post, then a Tesla might be a bit annoying. Although, I usually can't make a long trip without stopping every few hours anyway. So, it might not matter. I rarely ever drive anywhere that is more than a 4 hour trip - and those 4 hour trips happen once, maybe twice a year for me. I'm almost always driving within 2 hours of home.
For me, I charge at my house. It was $300 to install a charging outlet in my garage. I really don't know how long it takes to charge at home since I do it overnight, but I'll guess and say 5-6 hours. I only have Teslas, and it has added about $100/month to my power bill. I'm guessing that's far less than most of you spend each month on gas. If I charge at a Supercharger, it is usually about $12-$15 for a full charge.
I just checked. In the last 12 months I charged at a Supercharger 7 times. Every other time was at my house.
I'm happy to answer any questions any of you have, but I'll leave it with this for now. They're American made, the owner is a badass (who just said that the entire infrastructure bill should be "deleted" and all subsidies should be eliminated), and they don't contribute to the Middle East in any way. I have also never met a single Tesla owner who doesn't love their car (and I've met hundreds). Probably most importantly, they're insanely fun to drive.
**** - Edit - The brakes are "regenerative" so braking puts power back in the battery. You get the least amount of range driving a straight shot on an interstate. You'll get more range doing any kind of driving that requires some braking.
they’re going to install a charging station (?) at the house.) I am saying, though, that it’s completely impractical for me and others (for a myriad of reasons financial to logistical) I drive…a whole frigging lot. All over the country. That quick trip to Baltimore? That’s nothing. If I can leave at 10 am and get to my destination for dinner, that’s not a road trip (for me). And anybody who travels with me knows you hold it until I have to stop for gas. Pee before we leave, keep the fluid intake to a minimum, sit back and chill (or in Max’s case, take a nap. He’s a crappy co pilot)To each his own.
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I do. But so what? Most everything is subsidized now. I received $0 from any stimulus, refund, or whatever else. I pay a ton in taxes. So if I can take advantage of some kind of subsidies, I'll do it. I don't believe in them in any way, but they're there whether I like it or not.
Also, nowhere will you see me say that I have a Tesla to be "green". I couldn't give less of a shit. I have them because they're awesome, far more convenient for us, and they don't contribute to islamic terrorists.
Yeah, they aren't for you. You're a rare case though for sure. If I go further than a 4 hour drive, I'm flying. I used to do that a lot, but not so much recently.I’m not begrudging you or anybody who loves your car. My friend just got one and loves it. (I’m still a little tickled at thinking about her plugging in her car that first night and her kid like joy checking her phone for a charging update
To each his own.
Non pothole fixing mayor Bootygig needs to get a frigging grip on reality.
Some of the restaurants around me have Tesla chargers. They don't really matter since they add only 10-20% while you eat, but it's free and pretty cool. That will become more common as time passes as well.
This isn’t my argument (really, I have none outside of as awesome as a Tesla may be, like any other car, it’s not practical for everybody)
But, uh…that’s not a legitimate point.
What do you think is used to make every element of your car? What do you think about those lithium mines? What about the environmental horror show of disposing of those batteries?
Interestingly, this topic was kinda ties into my daughter’s focus for her masters (she walks December 15!!!! I can’t get there, but her daddy and grandparents will be).
Nothing in my cars is from the Middle East. Gas can, and does come from there sometimes. I'm not sure what you're getting at?
Congrats to your daughter, btw.
Judging from the traffic on the road, I’m not a rare case. Have you SEEN the spring break traffic through Atlanta come spring break??? The entire states of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Wisconsin all on the road to Florida on the same day.
I’m just messing with you. Yes. Most don’t drive like I do. (I hate flying. Not scared, just hate everything about it and avoid it as much as possible). But lots do.
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Well, there isn't any easy answer. Teslas really are the best, so I'll restrict the answer to just Teslas. Other electric cars will have a different experience.
Let me start by giving you a short answer: I can charge in about 15-20 minutes at a Supercharger. Sometimes less, sometimes more, but that's going to be the case 80%+ of the time.
Tesla has their own charging network, and the "stations" are called Superchargers. There are a ton of them nationally, and Tesla is constantly adding new ones. Tesla cars know where they are located. If I were to get in my car (I'm in central SC) and tell it I want to go to Miami, it will let me know at which Superchargers I'm going to have to charge on the way there. Your car will know its range and will calculate that.
Superchargers are almost always located where they are surrounded by restaurants, shopping, etc. So you can do that while it charges, or you can just sit in the car and watch Netflix or Hulu or something on the screen. I have never had an issue burning the time without it being a bother.
Tesla has 4 models: The S and 3 are cars, the X and Y are SUVs. The 3 is the smallest and therefore the lowest range. There are actually 2 other models - the Roadster and the Cybertruck - but it's going to be very rare for you to see either one, at least for a while longer.
Regardless of manufacturer, most cars come in different versions of the same model. Tesla is no different. The main thing you are choosing with the version is the range. Standard, Standard Plus, and Long Range are typical. There is also a Performance option that makes the car faster, and it does impact range. This will obviously impact how far you can drive on a single charge and will also impact how long it takes you to charge.
This changes slightly over time as the constant (about every week or 2) software updates can improve this, but this is fairly accurate for 9 of the versions:
Like any battery, it isn't recommended to charge to 100% very often. Tesla will default to 90% "full" unless you put it in "trip mode" and then it will charge to 100%. Going from 90% to 100% at a charging station might take you as long as it did to go from 5% to 90%. Because of this, you would only charge to 100% if you absolutely need to utilize the full range of the vehicle.
If you're taking a situation like @tgsio's post, then a Tesla might be a bit annoying. Although, I usually can't make a long trip without stopping every few hours anyway. So, it might not matter. I rarely ever drive anywhere that is more than a 4 hour trip - and those 4 hour trips happen once, maybe twice a year for me. I'm almost always driving within 2 hours of home.
For me, I charge at my house. It was $300 to install a charging outlet in my garage. I really don't know how long it takes to charge at home since I do it overnight, but I'll guess and say 5-6 hours. I only have Teslas, and it has added about $100/month to my power bill. I'm guessing that's far less than most of you spend each month on gas. If I charge at a Supercharger, it is usually about $12-$15 for a full charge.
I just checked. In the last 12 months I charged at a Supercharger 7 times. Every other time was at my house.
I'm happy to answer any questions any of you have, but I'll leave it with this for now. They're American made, the owner is a badass (who just said that the entire infrastructure bill should be "deleted" and all subsidies should be eliminated), and they don't contribute to the Middle East in any way. I have also never met a single Tesla owner who doesn't love their car (and I've met hundreds). Probably most importantly, they're insanely fun to drive.
**** - Edit - The brakes are "regenerative" so braking puts power back in the battery. You get the least amount of range driving a straight shot on an interstate. You'll get more range doing any kind of driving that requires some braking.
Not Bad As Basically I Can Have a Nice 15-20 Mnute Sects Session in My Tesla And When I'm Done Charging Her The Charging Station is Done Charging My Car
Can See The Benefit vs a 1:45 Stop For Petrol aka a "Quickie"
I certainly don't think they're for everyone. I don't really want them to be for everyone either. I do want the charging stations to keep popping up and I want to have more options for places to charge if I need them (I really haven't, but who knows).Judging from the traffic on the road, I’m not a rare case. Have you SEEN the spring break traffic through Atlanta come spring break??? The entire states of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Wisconsin all on the road to Florida on the same day.
I’m just messing with you. Yes. Most don’t drive like I do. (I hate flying. Not scared, just hate everything about it and avoid it as much as possible). But lots do.
But I do know that they are for more people than they realize. Tesla doesn't advertise, so there is a ton of misconception about what the cars are, what it is to drive them, and what it is to own them.
I have had one of mine for almost 2 years. I've spent $134 dollars on it in maintenance. That's it. I don't think people realize that about them either.
So what are you invested in?
Since I'm asking, I'm in Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Litecoin primarily with a bit of money invested in a few others.
Does Elon have his own personal 100% USA sourced oil field and petroleum plant? What do you think is necessary to build, say, that right fender? Where do the suppliers source? What do you think is used to build those plants to build those parts?
Now about those batteries and lithium mines….
Cobalt mines?
Here’s the thing. It’s good to strive be better and cleaner. But sometimes ‘better ‘ just factually isn’t.
That’s not to knock you or anybody for driving a Tesla. Seriously. Drive what you like and what makes sense for you.
I guess my quibble is with anybody saying otherwise to me and millions of others (you have not said anything of the sort)…. and the complete buffoon in an official position telling people who have to choose between paying for gas or food to just go buy an electric car.
At this point in time, they are not practical or obtainable, economically or otherwise, for the vast majority of the people. We’re, on the whole, just not there, yet. And we’re nowhere close to dealing with environmental impact disposal of the batteries renders. And that’s a fact.
(Same with the turbines)
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You have a map of these things or something? I’ve literally never seen a charging station.
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What does a replacement battery cost?
I’m not picking a fight- I didn’t know you were aware. Just passing on information.
To answer the one question that you asked’ but so what?”
Elon wants subsidies removed bc he already has the infrastructure paid by taxpayers. RFS is already approved for the next year. Tesla has bought a great deal of biogas production. Currently RINs are trading 3.35$. (X11.72) per mmBtu) which means he’s getting paid almost 40$ gas to power EV
That’s how you eliminate competition.
Always just my opinion.
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We have them here in Dayton. 6 spots at the Graduate in Oxford, MS. Plenty in Towson,MD.
Those are parking spots. I have yet to see them in the wild on, say, I-68
(To be fair, I only know this because more than once I thought I scored a great parking spot only to see the sign and plug and proceded to cuss my way over to another, less ideal spot)
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While battery replacement reports from owners of the Model S outside of warranty are few and far between, we have found a few cases where a full battery replacement visit has cost up to $20,000. That sounds pretty high, but the breakdown in price shows that the Model S battery itself costs somewhere in the realm of $12,000-$15,000.
Had to replace the battery in my jeep a couple of months ago (which, turns out, wasn’t the issue. It’s the other battery. Hence why I was driving my husband’s Yukon this weekend) I was pissed that it cost me $329.
I didn’t even get a pink bunny in flip flops.
