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Interesting theory. So, someone wearing a “Let’s Go Brandon” shirt or a BLM shirt you wouldn’t be able to discern their leanings?

And, yes, masks are the same. Only the Left wear them religiously.
you comparing a LGB and BLM shirts to a person wearing a mask inside a federal building? Cause that's not the same at all. Not everything is a political statement... That's exactly how the left thinks btw. Just bc they're wearing a mask inside a courtroom doesn't mean they're ignoring the evidence and automatically holding up the verdict. I know plenty of people who wear masks in public places and think libs are subhuman scum.
 
ohhh I get what hes suggesting and its really stupid to judge someone's politics based on a mask. He has no idea what they're thinking.
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I don’t disagree but with the reports of two jurors being the hold up earlier I felt it was worth sharing with everyone.

I’d say he isn’t exactly judging their politics but he knows where he butters his bread and as a result was throwing meat to the wolves.

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Correct. Bullets do not “tumble” as they would not be accurate. Not sure where he was going with that.
The round tumbles on impact, larger caliber like a 7.62 does not. It was designed to do maximum damage to an enemy and it does just that. I was saying it was fired at close range and never had a chance to tumble because it never really reached it's top velocity. His arm is boo coo screwed up from a very small round and it would be much worse had he been down range. It is on record and described as a tumbler by the DoD. I prefer the M-14 and it just feels like a real weapon, one that you can beat someone to death if your that close. Our M5 40mm was so slow you could watch the round down range and follow it with your eyes. A 51 caliber could penetrate three plates of armor in one of our ships up front and still kill the back seat. I specifically remember being instructed to the deadliness of a M-16 and the tumbling on impact, it was nothing top secret just the size and weight of the round and the tip being so sharp. Look at the old Carbine rounds from WWII and the Korean war, the round was blunt and rounded not sharp tipped. The M-16 only made the cut due to the ammo load each grunt could carry opposed to the M-14s. Today I know nothing about the new weapons there are so many different types in use. Heck I can't even recognize a car's manufacturer today. ;0)


Here is a good read on the 5.56, it is pretty intense but a photo is worth a thousand words. It explains where I was trying to go to.

 
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I don’t disagree but with the reports of two jurors being the hold up earlier I felt it was worth sharing with everyone.

I’d say he isn’t exactly judging their politics but he knows where he butters his bread and as a result was throwing meat to the wolves.

I'm definitely glad you shared that. I totally get where he and everyone else is coming from. I just think he is reaching way to far with that tweet. We had a discussion on the forum lastnight about Posobiec and i do overall like the guy.
 
I'm definitely glad you shared that. I totally get where he and everyone else is coming from. I just think he is reaching way to far with that tweet. We had a discussion on the forum lastnight about Posobiec and i do overall like the guy.
I think he is worth sharing most of the time.

He is a provocateur but he has good sources.

He is also he plenty of takes that make me cringe.
 
It shows they are desperate by targeting every Republican , their day is near and the tyranny will end mid term, hopefully with most of the liberals under investigation and removed for taking money from our enemies. I guess it is alright to insight violence like that mule face maxine, where is the censor
I would surmise they just don’t want their identity known.
 
Ok I’ve refrained long enough. Your dog is getting cancer because of the shit food they eat. I’ve only fed mine Hills science diet since he was a pup. He’s 10 and sprey as fuck. Same goes with my 1.5 year old. You are what you eat. View attachment 59985View attachment 59987

Hills uses just as much filler and random shit as any other mediocre big name brand.
Kinda stupid comment to make, especially to someone who obviously loves their dogs and would only feed them something that’s good for them.
 
The round tumbles on impact, larger caliber like a 7.62 does not. It was designed to do maximum damage to an enemy and it does just that. I was saying it was fired at close range and never had a chance to tumble because it never really reached it's top velocity. His arm is boo coo screwed up from a very small round and it would be much worse had he been down range. It is on record and described as a tumbler by the DoD. I prefer the M-14 and it just feels like a real weapon, one that you can beat someone to death if your that close. Our M5 40mm was so slow you could watch the round down range and follow it with your eyes. A 51 caliber could penetrate three plates of armor in one of our ships up front and still kill the back seat. I specifically remember being instructed to the deadliness of a M-16 and the tumbling on impact, it was nothing top secret just the size and weight of the round and the tip being so sharp. Look at the old Carbine rounds from WWII and the Korean war, the round was blunt and rounded not sharp tipped. The M-16 only made the cut due to the ammo load each grunt could carry opposed to the M-14s. Today I know nothing about the new weapons there are so many different types in use. Heck I can't even recognize a car's manufacturer today. ;0)
I’ll just add that given enough flight time, every bullet would start to wobble and then begin to tumble… not really what’s being discussed here necessarily but still truth.
It’s a factor in long range shooting and round/caliber selection.
 
Interesting theory. So, someone wearing a “Let’s Go Brandon” shirt or a BLM shirt you wouldn’t be able to discern their leanings?

And, yes, masks are the same. Only the Left wear them religiously.
This is decidedly false. Plenty of apolitical people who are not unplugged from MSM who wear masks regularly. I know at least two who both think this trial is a farce and he should have never even been charged and would vote to acquit. And this trial is helping to wake them up, as far as that goes.
 
you comparing a LGB and BLM shirts to a person wearing a mask inside a federal building? Cause that's not the same at all. Not everything is a political statement... That's exactly how the left thinks btw. Just bc they're wearing a mask inside a courtroom doesn't mean they're ignoring the evidence and automatically holding up the verdict. I know plenty of people who wear masks in public places and think libs are subhuman scum.
My apologies. I’m in Texas… I only see Dimz wearing them.

Point to pleasuremoose.
 
The round tumbles on impact, larger caliber like a 7.62 does not. It was designed to do maximum damage to an enemy and it does just that. I was saying it was fired at close range and never had a chance to tumble because it never really reached it's top velocity. His arm is boo coo screwed up from a very small round and it would be much worse had he been down range. It is on record and described as a tumbler by the DoD. I prefer the M-14 and it just feels like a real weapon, one that you can beat someone to death if your that close. Our M5 40mm was so slow you could watch the round down range and follow it with your eyes. A 51 caliber could penetrate three plates of armor in one of our ships up front and still kill the back seat. I specifically remember being instructed to the deadliness of a M-16 and the tumbling on impact, it was nothing top secret just the size and weight of the round and the tip being so sharp. Look at the old Carbine rounds from WWII and the Korean war, the round was blunt and rounded not sharp tipped. The M-16 only made the cut due to the ammo load each grunt could carry opposed to the M-14s. Today I know nothing about the new weapons there are so many different types in use. Heck I can't even recognize a car's manufacturer today. ;0)


Here is a good read on the 5.56, it is pretty intense but a photo is worth a thousand words. It explains where I was trying to go to.

It is only military rounds 5.56 that are made to tumble. The accuracy was terrible.

“From the very outset of its adoption the M16 was plagued with troubles. Stoner had designed the original AR 15 with a very slow barrel twist rate of 1:14 which was literally a doubled edged sword. By using a slow twist barrel the 55 grain bullet was only just stable in flight, producing a small degree of yaw. On impact the bullet would immediately tumble and render a wide, incapacitating wound. This was initially considered a brilliant design premise but some rifles produced too much yaw and were very inaccurate at longer ranges. McNamara ordered that the twist rate be changed to 1:12 before final adoption of the rifle in 1964. This cured longer range accuracy problems but completely destroyed the stopping power of the 55 grain bullet which now poked needle holes through its victims. Nobody questioned the potential consequences of this move and ignorant of the facts, Ordnance brass continued to believe and promote the M193 as a highly effective cartridge.”

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The .223 Remington/5.56NATO certainly has an interesting military history. As a hunting cartridge, the .223 is a conundrum. Few people have witnessed or truly understand the vast difference between the dramatic terminal performance of tumbling military ball and the slower, lack luster killing which can occur when chest shooting game using conventional soft sporting ammunition. Along with this are the modern super explosive varmint loads, shallow but broad wounding.

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You could run really good ads about pete taking a month off during the shipping container debacle and supply chain crisis. Not sure he's as likable as dems think he is.
Pete is a Fudge Packer, that tells me all I need to know to not want one in the oval office. Normally I just ignore Fudge Packers, and they can pack coal in their ass if they like. Being the leader of the free world and our military is not the place for one. Altho he could probably do somewhat better than the zombie we now have.
 

Interesting article I saw linked in another forum I visit. Talks about a spike in non-Covid deaths higher than the anticipated curve.
 
You could run really good ads about pete taking a month off during the shipping container debacle and supply chain crisis. Not sure he's as likable as dems think he is.
They’re running off the best candidate in their party because she isn’t as radical as the rest of them (Sinema).

They’d likely be willing to shove the mayor out there and prop him up for a bit under the guise that any criticism of him would be because he is a phaggot. He is young, photogenic, has public speaking skills, and is from a “minority population” so definitely easier to sell to their deranged base than the old openly racist white corpse they’re propping up now.
 
I’ll just add that given enough flight time, every bullet would start to wobble and then begin to tumble… not really what’s being discussed here necessarily but still truth.
It’s a factor in long range shooting and round/caliber selection.
Distance does play a factor, but bullet “tumble” only happens at great distances. That is not what the OP was saying. I guess, I should’ve said, “tumbling” is possible at a great distance.
 

Interesting article I saw linked in another forum I visit. Talks about a spike in non-Covid deaths higher than the anticipated curve.
I wonder how many healthcare workers are not available due to vax mandates.
 

Interesting article I saw linked in another forum I visit. Talks about a spike in non-Covid deaths higher than the anticipated curve.
Non-Covid other than related to the Covid “vaccine” right?
 

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