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Interesting. Just the declassified stuff my buddies at Lockheed tell me suggest otherwise...
US developed this technology in the 60s, but we scrapped all the programs.

If we were actively testing something like this you would (most likely) know about it, and we would make it public to flex.

The US has some some testing on the vehicle body, but are still measurably behind getting back up to speed.

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We are still (publicly) working on subsystem design:

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It’s referenced by CNBC, but still:
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There is a reason that after Chinas initial testing in 2018 it caused a huge uproar in Defense funding an priorities.

And even if we do have our own technically mature, we still need to have countermeasures.

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Interesting. Just the declassified stuff my buddies at Lockheed tell me suggest otherwise...
Let’s just say I sit at the table. You can see the failure of ARRW in the news. Actuator issue and then a failure to ignite. Have set ARRW back.

Going fast is very hard. Heat and the plasma generated by the heat around an object make it hard to steer anything with guidance. Ballistic is easier and can be shot down. Hypersonic Evasive maneuvers at endgame with a plasma shield over the top of gps guidance is incredibly difficult. Not saying it can’t be done but it is expensive. China doesnt have to worry about for profit companies making their stuff.
 
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Let’s just say I sit at the table. You can see the failure of ARRW in the news. Actuator issue and then a failure to ignite. Have set ARRW back.

Going fast is very hard. Heat and the plasma generated by the heat around an object make it hard to steer anything with guidance. Ballistic is easier and can be shot down. Hypersonic Evasive maneuvers at endgame with a plasma shield over the top of gps guidance is incredibly difficult. Not saying it can’t be done but it is expensive. China doesnt have to worry about for profit companies making their stuff.
^very accurate and informative post
 
Noting like dumbing down on the the main bastions of higher knowledge. By God these new liberals sure have their act together. Imagine! Hundreds of years of stedfast dedication to enlightenment being destroyed in a mere matter of months. This is sure going to be fun for those with a double digit I.Q. Let's all welcome antifa and BLM as the most ignorant and profanely stupid new library card holders.
 
Let’s just say I sit at the table. You can see the failure of ARRW in the news. Actuator issue and then a failure to ignite. Have set ARRW back.

Going fast is very hard. Heat and the plasma generated by the heat around an object make it hard to steer anything with guidance. Ballistic is easier and can be shot down. Hypersonic Evasive maneuvers at endgame with a plasma shield over the top of gps guidance is incredibly difficult. Not saying it can’t be done but it is expensive. China doesnt have to worry about for profit companies making their stuff.
This is concerning.

No one in private sector willing to step up to the plate... sends like there is a lot opportunity here
 

Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies​

The Outer Space Treaty was considered by the Legal Subcommittee in 1966 and agreement was reached in the General Assembly in the same year ( resolution 2222 (XXI)). The Treaty was largely based on the Declaration of Legal Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, which had been adopted by the General Assembly in its resolution 1962 (XVIII) in 1963, but added a few new provisions. The Treaty was opened for signature by the three depository Governments (the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States of America) in January 1967, and it entered into force in October 1967. The Outer Space Treaty provides the basic framework on international space law, including the following principles:

  • the exploration and use of outer space shall be carried out for the benefit and in the interests of all countries and shall be the province of all mankind;
  • outer space shall be free for exploration and use by all States;
  • outer space is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means;
  • States shall not place nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in orbit or on celestial bodies or station them in outer space in any other manner;
  • the Moon and other celestial bodies shall be used exclusively for peaceful purposes;
  • astronauts shall be regarded as the envoys of mankind;
  • States shall be responsible for national space activities whether carried out by governmental or non-governmental entities;
  • States shall be liable for damage caused by their space objects; and
  • States shall avoid harmful contamination of space and celestial bodies.
 
Yeah 24 mile miss is really not a big deal considering what they pulled off in a first test. They will dial it in on future tests.

I seriously can’t stop thinking about this. I’ve worked air defense my whole career. Complete game changer.

Pos nails it when he says our best defense is striking back. Space force is yeeeeeears away from being able to have an end to end solution abainst something like this. I would imagine that the big (and probably only for a long time) contribution SF would be surveillance and tracking
Seems like the only option is to hit them on the way up?!

Gonna need to invest to be able to do that and get coverage?!
 

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